Windows 7 testing

[box]

Well, still getting BSOD with NAV2009. regardless of what I do. So, NAV2009 is gone. EAV4 is back on and I will do a full scan to see if I get BSOD.

Added: Only 1 out of 4 BSOD with EAV4. This was due to L2 cache setting at 2048. (I think.) When set to 0, no BSOD. I went back to NAV2009, set L2 cache to 0 in the registry (default) and did a full scan with 100% success. I will do 2 more full scans with L2 cache set to 0 and see if I get BSOD with NAV2009.

[jofre]

Hi,there !

Would like to know if all those using Win7, can boot system in less than 60 seconds, because if what @box said is true for all users, I`ll stay with WinXP Pro till the day Microsoft stops supporting XP, that will be on year 2014 .

Please Report.

Thanks

Cheers

Jofre

[shought]

Just checked:

25 seconds until I see the 'Windows is booting'.

40 seconds until I see the logon page.

45 seconds until I'm able to use the desktop.

So you could say Windows booted in 20 seconds(all the stuff that happened before was just my PC checking and all, wish I could disable all that shit(no, I know you can, but not all of it, really, I've tried :P)).

[DKT27]

Well I don't use 7 till now but will use it later.

ANW just for the records after I fully defragmented my main windows xp partition drive months ago, that at first was not possible but I somehow managed to do that, by transferring everything that was not useful to keep there, to another partition, my XP started to show the login screen in less than 15 sec or similar.

So this makes sense, for all the people who are not expert on computers and have started to usein 7 make sure you don't use more of the space on the main OS partition drive.

[jofre]

Thanks, Shought

There is no doubt it takes more time then XP but even so, not too much. Have to try & see but not yet.

Ciao !

Have a nice day

Jofre

[box]

Just remember that the 60 seconds boot into Win 7 doesn't include the BIOS. I start the clock when the BIOS is done. After the BIOS, the time starts and the time stops when I see my desktop. Also, I'm using Intel SSD.

Any how, I did more testing with L2 Cache set to 0 and did a full scan with NAV2009. Damn BSOD came back. I can't use Nod32 because my virtual PCs stutter when Eset scans in the background. I never noticed this with NAV2009. I decided to install NAV2010 and did a full system scan with L2 cache set at 0 and then set it at 8192. NO BSOD, yet. I will start using virtual PCs and see if I get BSOD. I really hope this holds.

Added: I did 3 Full System scan with NAV2010 with vPC running and SUCCESS.

[Patrick]

^ A software incompatability was causing the BSOD then?

[mara-]

Can you explain what are you doing, box? You are changing L2 cache of processor via registry? How's that possible? Or you are talking about something else?

Cheers ;)

[box]

Can you explain what are you doing, box? You are changing L2 cache of processor via registry? How's that possible? Or you are talking about something else?

Cheers ;)

From what I have read in XP (I don't know if it still applies to Win7), Windows doesn't make use of L2Cache. So, you have to go into the registry and tell Win7. I really have to way of testing how affective this is.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management

SecondLevelDataCache (make sure that you enter the L2Cache using Decimal and not Hexadecimal)

Added: From WaveRider

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q183063/

[box]

^ A software incompatability was causing the BSOD then?

It always BSOD when doing a full virus scan. I just did a full scan with MRT and BSOD. I am now leaning toward my SSD as a weak point. I have no problem with 4 other computers.

[box]

2x post

[PsychoticxBloodxLust]

all i can say i had flawless install on an hp this past weekend for friend even modded his bios so he has both SLIC 2.0 &2.1 tables with out bricking so i feel really acomplished

[rockyZor]

I don't like Windows 7 very much myself. It's got a nice interface and it's better than Vista but it's nothing like my good ol' XP. When I was "testing" Win 7 it was using a lot of memory and it wasn't been as fast as I thought it'll be. I'll try those Windows again on their final offical release but until that time, I'm staying on XP!

[Lite]

Memory usage is a very subjective term. What is point of having 2 GB RAM when your operating system will only use 250MB of it?

Windows 7 and Windows Vista have far superior memory management than Windows XP.

[manbotdbot]

Can you go XP -> Vista -> Seven?

[box]

Can you go XP -> Vista -> Seven?

Yes you can, but it is a lot of work just to get to 7. It would be better if you just skip Vista.

[jofre]

Yeah!

Skip The Blister & 4ever !

[manbotdbot]

But I would have to do a clean install right?

[KotaXor]

But I would have to do a clean install right?

A clean install would be much preferred.

Upon installation, your data will be automatically kept in your root dir: windows old.

But it is better to do a backup, just in case.

[manbotdbot]

Oh. Thanks.

[Hottwire]

Ill add my opinion Windows 7 is exactly what Vista was meant to be. there is no denying that!

Anyway it all worked out of the box and its great. Not had any problems yet , i prefer it much more to XP and vista, the only problem i have run into is when playing "Old (retro)" games such as Command & Conquer 1, they just seem to have problems but that is expected as they were designed for windows 95/98 so i can't complain apart from that , and a couple of games not picking up optimal settings because of the OS being a beta i have nothing bad to say about windows 7..

Its very nice.

I'm happy with it being my main OS apart from OSx

[box]

OMG, I don't know what I did but my Win7Ux64 (real) restarted in 36 seconds. That's a record. I better take a snapshot of it.

[KotaXor]

OMG, I don't know what I did but my Win7Ux64 (real) restarted in 36 seconds. That's a record. I better take a snapshot of it.

Oh whoa...mine is 40 sec, you managed to bootup 4 sec faster.

Well done.;)

[manbotdbot]

How much memory can the x86 version support?

[deviant.zero]

Can you explain what are you doing, box? You are changing L2 cache of processor via registry? How's that possible? Or you are talking about something else?

Cheers ;)

From what I have read in XP (I don't know if it still applies to Win7), Windows doesn't make use of L2Cache. So, you have to go into the registry and tell Win7. I really have to way of testing how affective this is.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management

SecondLevelDataCache (make sure that you enter the L2Cache using Decimal and not Hexadecimal)

Added: From WaveRider

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q183063/

Hey Box, take a look at this -> http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/116/ . I did abit of my own research after you're interesting find but it turns out this only effects computers using CPUs older than Pentium II or something. Thanks!