mara- Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 mara wrote:With TemDono 1.2 fix you need sometimes to reboot 2 or 3 times to get trial reset, and with Box (auto) trial will be reseted with only one rebootmara- are you sure about it? I have some questions for mara and box:1) what is the diffrents between TemDono 1.2/ Dasumo V3.1 / Box1 (auto) ?? how many times you need to reboot with each fix to get trial reset? how does your auto fix adds automatic service to start before nod32? (create a service through a exe file) how do you do it exactly?what is it different from TemDono/Dasumo fixes? how is it smarter than them?2) does Dasumo fix change the PackageTag value to 04ff9687 (TemDono) or something else?does it make a different? can you change it to anything you want?what the PackageTag do? why change it? please replay a detail answer if you know and understand.thanks.1) TemDono Fix uses different PackageTag number then Box Fix. Dasumo fix is for Business edition. With TemDono fix you may need 2 or more restarts because his service is not efficient. Box fix (auto) also use service, but there is order in which Windows execute services, so I added my at top of the list. Service is created using reg keys.2) I don't know this.Cheers :doctor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsupilami Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 mara wrote:With TemDono 1.2 fix you need sometimes to reboot 2 or 3 times to get trial reset, and with Box (auto) trial will be reseted with only one rebootmara- are you sure about it? I have some questions for mara and box:1) what is the diffrents between TemDono 1.2/ Dasumo V3.1 / Box1 (auto) ?? how many times you need to reboot with each fix to get trial reset? how does your auto fix adds automatic service to start before nod32? (create a service through a exe file) how do you do it exactly?what is it different from TemDono/Dasumo fixes? how is it smarter than them?2) does Dasumo fix change the PackageTag value to 04ff9687 (TemDono) or something else?does it make a different? can you change it to anything you want?what the PackageTag do? why change it? please replay a detail answer if you know and understand.thanks.1) TemDono Fix uses different PackageTag number then Box Fix. Dasumo fix is for Business edition. With TemDono fix you may need 2 or more restarts because his service is not efficient. Box fix (auto) also use service, but there is order in which Windows execute services, so I added my at top of the list. Service is created using reg keys.2) I don't know this.Cheers :doctor:PackageTag is just a value that eset checks and change..it´s for the trial-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mara- Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 mara wrote:With TemDono 1.2 fix you need sometimes to reboot 2 or 3 times to get trial reset, and with Box (auto) trial will be reseted with only one rebootmara- are you sure about it? I have some questions for mara and box:1) what is the diffrents between TemDono 1.2/ Dasumo V3.1 / Box1 (auto) ?? how many times you need to reboot with each fix to get trial reset? how does your auto fix adds automatic service to start before nod32? (create a service through a exe file) how do you do it exactly?what is it different from TemDono/Dasumo fixes? how is it smarter than them?2) does Dasumo fix change the PackageTag value to 04ff9687 (TemDono) or something else?does it make a different? can you change it to anything you want?what the PackageTag do? why change it? please replay a detail answer if you know and understand.thanks.1) TemDono Fix uses different PackageTag number then Box Fix. Dasumo fix is for Business edition. With TemDono fix you may need 2 or more restarts because his service is not efficient. Box fix (auto) also use service, but there is order in which Windows execute services, so I added my at top of the list. Service is created using reg keys.2) I don't know this.Cheers :rolleyes:PackageTag is just a value that eset checks and change..it´s for the trial-daysAnd your point is ???Cheers :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsupilami Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 mara wrote:With TemDono 1.2 fix you need sometimes to reboot 2 or 3 times to get trial reset, and with Box (auto) trial will be reseted with only one rebootmara- are you sure about it? I have some questions for mara and box:1) what is the diffrents between TemDono 1.2/ Dasumo V3.1 / Box1 (auto) ?? how many times you need to reboot with each fix to get trial reset? how does your auto fix adds automatic service to start before nod32? (create a service through a exe file) how do you do it exactly?what is it different from TemDono/Dasumo fixes? how is it smarter than them?2) does Dasumo fix change the PackageTag value to 04ff9687 (TemDono) or something else?does it make a different? can you change it to anything you want?what the PackageTag do? why change it? please replay a detail answer if you know and understand.thanks.1) TemDono Fix uses different PackageTag number then Box Fix. Dasumo fix is for Business edition. With TemDono fix you may need 2 or more restarts because his service is not efficient. Box fix (auto) also use service, but there is order in which Windows execute services, so I added my at top of the list. Service is created using reg keys.2) I don't know this.Cheers :rolleyes:PackageTag is just a value that eset checks and change..it´s for the trial-daysAnd your point is ???Cheers :(I just answer to what packagetag do.... It set a value, when u install eset... and use it to count down the days....Sorry for reply then... mara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbebo Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I used BoxForever(A) and I don't get a message saying that there's X amount of days left but my license expires 4/10/08. I'm sure I applied it correctly. I'm using 32 bit windows XP SP2 with eset version 642. I'm gonna wait a few days see if anything changes. After that I'll try BoxForever( B ). Actually now that I remember I didn't use the retail version of 642 i used the new trial of 642 that came out. Could that have a different effect? I doubt it since you convert retail to trial anyway but its a thought.--------------------------Hi elbebo !You should have done something wrong and your are going to have same problem with Box4ever =B=.Read comments done before about this matter and perhaps you can make it .Anyway,dont have time now, I `ll send you a message tomorrow saying how you must do it.cheersJofreYou're right I used the trail with username and Password. I reapplied the whole thing and it's working now. By the way does this work in Spanish version 3.0645? I don't know if anyone's tried it. I'll try it a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofre Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I used BoxForever(A) and I don't get a message saying that there's X amount of days left but my license expires 4/10/08. I'm sure I applied it correctly. I'm using 32 bit windows XP SP2 with eset version 642. I'm gonna wait a few days see if anything changes. After that I'll try BoxForever( B ). Actually now that I remember I didn't use the retail version of 642 i used the new trial of 642 that came out. Could that have a different effect? I doubt it since you convert retail to trial anyway but its a thought.--------------------------Hi elbebo !You should have done something wrong and your are going to have same problem with Box4ever =B=.Read comments done before about this matter and perhaps you can make it .Anyway,dont have time now, I `ll send you a message tomorrow saying how you must do it.cheersJofreYou're right I used the trail with username and Password. I reapplied the whole thing and it's working now. By the way does this work in Spanish version 3.0645? I don't know if anyone's tried it. I'll try it a little later.---------------------------------------Elbebo :Check P.M !cheersJofre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrado Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hi,I see there are already about 92 pages to read, so I DON'T gonna read them all. :rolleyes:What I've understood:- Box Fix changes registry and resets trial period to 31 days on every reboot ? (Most close to Nsanes Fix ?)- Nodlogin gives the advantages of the commercial version ?- TemDono & Dasumo are less popular, why ?So, I have to go for Box or Nodlogin. Now, I've used Nodlogin, but I see you absolutely need the commercial version, because the trial counts down ? And how long will it last before ESET blocks all these logins ? :(With Box you're safe forever ? and because you only need to update the virus definitions, this is the best solution ? Is that right ?What do most people suggest ? Actually I'm just searching for an equal method like Nsanes Fix 2.2 for 2.70.39 Trial.Can someone send me the Box Fix, so I can also compare myself. Thanks in advance ! ;)By the way, I just discovered something strange:I'm using Nodlogin on NOD32 3.0.642 Trial (WinXP Pro SP2) and 10 minutes ago there stood:License valid until: 10/04/2008Now, without reboot, just standing by, the dialog says:License valid until: 11/06/2008Nice, but how come :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofre Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I used BoxForever(A) and I don't get a message saying that there's X amount of days left but my license expires 4/10/08. I'm sure I applied it correctly. I'm using 32 bit windows XP SP2 with eset version 642. I'm gonna wait a few days see if anything changes. After that I'll try BoxForever( B ). Actually now that I remember I didn't use the retail version of 642 i used the new trial of 642 that came out. Could that have a different effect? I doubt it since you convert retail to trial anyway but its a thought.--------------------------Hi elbebo !You should have done something wrong and your are going to have same problem with Box4ever =B=.Read comments done before about this matter and perhaps you can make it .Anyway,dont have time now, I `ll send you a message tomorrow saying how you must do it.cheersJofreYou're right I used the trail with username and Password. I reapplied the whole thing and it's working now. By the way does this work in Spanish version 3.0645? I don't know if anyone's tried it. I'll try it a little later.---------------------------------------Elbebo :Yes, Box4ever works with Spanish version 3.0.645. Also Box(auto) and Box (Manual) . Check your P.M. - Spanish 3.0.645 already sent !cheersJofre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbebo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi,I see there are already about 92 pages to read, so I DON'T gonna read them all. :rolleyes:What I've understood:- Box Fix changes registry and resets trial period to 31 days on every reboot ? (Most close to Nsanes Fix ?)- Nodlogin gives the advantages of the commercial version ?- TemDono & Dasumo are less popular, why ?NodLogin uses comercial keys to update the virus signatures that's why you get the benefits of the commercial version and not just trial. Also TemDono and Dasumo are less popular because apparently occasionally they require more than one restart to reset the trail countdown. This is not the case with BoxFix which is why it's been more popular. But I've used TemDono before with no problems and I'm currently using BoxForever(A).So, I have to go for Box or Nodlogin. Now, I've used Nodlogin, but I see you absolutely need the commercial version, because the trial counts down ? And how long will it last before ESET blocks all these logins ? :(With Box you're safe forever ? and because you only need to update the virus definitions, this is the best solution ? Is that right ?What do most people suggest ? Actually I'm just searching for an equal method like Nsanes Fix 2.2 for 2.70.39 Trial.Can someone send me the Box Fix, so I can also compare myself. Thanks in advance ! ;)By the way, I just discovered something strange:I'm using Nodlogin on NOD32 3.0.642 Trial (WinXP Pro SP2) and 10 minutes ago there stood:License valid until: 10/04/2008Now, without reboot, just standing by, the dialog says:License valid until: 11/06/2008Nice, but how come :DSince NodLogin uses the comercial keys and since they are shared they are usually blacklisted within a short period of time. NodLogin will check to see if the key is still valid and if not it will insert a new one in order to update. At that point you get a different validation period. Hope that clears things up a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourobouros Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Could you please post the link to that info? I can't seem to find it...Or maybe someone else can confirm this?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Could you please post the link to that info? I can't seem to find it...Or maybe someone else can confirm this?Thanks.ESET Knowledge base link about is this: What do I receive with an ESET NOD32 license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Is the nsane fix coming? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESET Freak Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are this fixes working for retail version of ESS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are this fixes working for retail version of ESS?They r for trial except dasumo 3.1 which is for buiseness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KotaXor Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are this fixes working for retail version of ESS?They r for trial except dasumo 3.1 which is for buisenessDon't forget Nodlogin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are this fixes working for retail version of ESS?They r for trial except dasumo 3.1 which is for buisenessDon't forget Nodlogin....Nodlogin isnt a fix! It doesnt change any files in the registry or in the AV :dance2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminoso Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Since the ESET Alternative Update Server I created is a complete full mirror of ESET commercial servers there is no reason to not recive the module updates also :dance2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KotaXor Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are this fixes working for retail version of ESS?They r for trial except dasumo 3.1 which is for buisenessDon't forget Nodlogin....Nodlogin isnt a fix! It doesnt change any files in the registry or in the AV :dance2:Yeah, it does not change any files.....it just add additional file (Nodlogin.exe) in your AV folder.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Its a portable application u delete the nodlogin.exe all traces are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssss Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I have strange problem with ALL reset-style fixes on single computer. Problem : computer can't start service "ESET trial reset", service not running, and trial period not resetted automatically, manually alls ok. My current account in administrative group, other admin features work ok.What can i do for solve this problem? I clear registry (manually and Registry mechanic) , uninstall all fixes... , but problem not solved. OS: Win-XP VLK SP2reinstall win-xp? :dance2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarretje Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Since the ESET Alternative Update Server I created is a complete full mirror of ESET commercial servers there is no reason to not recive the module updates also :dance2:OK, an alternative update server will work good too. But the problem is you have to thrust the people who made it, then may infect you with that server... (not that you are doing this mate, great work with your server!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Since the ESET Alternative Update Server I created is a complete full mirror of ESET commercial servers there is no reason to not recive the module updates also :dance2:OK, an alternative update server will work good too. But the problem is you have to thrust the people who made it, then may infect you with that server... (not that you are doing this mate, great work with your server!)This fear of getting infected with an update file is unfound! obviously the AV will know wht its dwnlding it will not dwnld anything as a n update file :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminoso Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Since the ESET Alternative Update Server I created is a complete full mirror of ESET commercial servers there is no reason to not recive the module updates also :dance2: OK, an alternative update server will work good too. But the problem is you have to thrust the people who made it, then may infect you with that server... (not that you are doing this mate, great work with your server!)This fear of getting infected with an update file is unfound! obviously the AV will know wht its dwnlding it will not dwnld anything as a n update file :blink: humm maybe. What's the purpose to infect anyone. Or how old some file downloaded infect the pc?The signature databases of eset have a specific data structure. Anything that doen't match with that structure eset won't reconize and won't do anything else... nodlogin, temdono, etc are worst. they change the eset program structure and may mess with anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarretje Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Trial & Commercial aren't the same, see ESET knowledgebase.Trial only update definitions, Commercial update definitions & program (including modules)Since the ESET Alternative Update Server I created is a complete full mirror of ESET commercial servers there is no reason to not recive the module updates also :dance2: OK, an alternative update server will work good too. But the problem is you have to thrust the people who made it, then may infect you with that server... (not that you are doing this mate, great work with your server!)This fear of getting infected with an update file is unfound! obviously the AV will know wht its dwnlding it will not dwnld anything as a n update file :blink: humm maybe. What's the purpose to infect anyone. Or how old some file downloaded infect the pc?The signature databases of eset have a specific data structure. Anything that doen't match with that structure eset won't reconize and won't do anything else... nodlogin, temdono, etc are worst. they change the eset program structure and may mess with anything else.Nodlogin doesn't change the program structure! As said before it's a standalone application that only downloads an key and insert this in the AV. Then you can just update via commercial servers. Nothing from Eset is changed, even not the server adress. Nodlogin will also work with the latest version, always, instead of temdono or dasumo :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drameet Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 nodlogin doesnt work properly with smart security so thats the issue for nod32 its fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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