Linux Mint 18: The best desktop -- period

[Batu69]

You could keep worrying about being forced to upgrade to Windows 10, or you could try the best of all Linux desktops: Mint 18.

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I've been using Linux desktops since the leading desktop front-end was Bash. Things have changed in those 25 years. Today, the best Linux desktop is the latest version of Linux Mint: Linux Mint 18 Sarah with the Cinnamon 3.0 interface.

You can turn the Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop into the desktop of your dreams.

 

Indeed, from where I sit, it's not only the best Linux desktop, it's the best desktop operating system -- period.

Many of you, for example, are struggling with the question of whether to "upgrade" to Windows 10. Many of you feel -- with some reason -- you're being forced to move from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Others are now realizing that Microsoft seems to be changing Windows from a purchase model to a subscription model. If you really want to "own" your operating system, you're going to need to move from Apple's macOS, Google Android/Chrome OS, or Windows 10 to Linux. All the other "desktop" operating systems are moving to subscription and cloud models.

 

That said, what's great about this latest version of Mint is that it's a solid, up-to-date Linux desktop where you, and nobody but you, gets to decide what you run.

Specifically, Mint 18 is long-term support desktop. Mint will be supporting it until 2021. It's built on the foundation of Ubuntu 16.04.

 

As such, Mint uses the Linux 4.4 kernel. On top of that it uses the X.org 1.18.3 windowing system. While Mint's default desktop is Cinnamon, like I said earlier, you, not some company, get to choose your desktop. MATE, the GNOME 2.x clone, is already supported. Other desktops, such as KDE, LXDE, and Xfce, will be available soon.

 

Despite these changes, Mint still runs on old computers you have sitting in your garage. You only need 512MBs of RAM to run it, although 1GB is recommended. You can fit Mint on a 10GB hard-drive, although 20GB is recommended. As for a display you can run it on 1024×768 resolution or even lower if you don't mind using the ALT key to drag windows with the mouse.

 

There have been some changes in what Mint can support. The 64-bit ISO image can boot with BIOS or UEFI, but the 32-bit version will only work with BIOS. Mint highly recommends running the 64-bit version on any modern -- late 90s and up -- computers.

 

As for UEFI, Mint has no trouble with it so long as you disable the Windows specific Secure Boot. Mint's developers warn you about running Mint on systems with Secure Boot enabled, but I haven't had any trouble with running Mint side-by-side on my Secure Boot enabled Windows systems.

 

I ran Mint 18 on a system with hardware specs that were overkill for it: My work desktop. This is an older Dell XPS 8300. It has a 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, 8GBs of RAM, and an AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphic card. Mint 18 ran great on it.

 

Mint 18 also ran smoothly on my 2011 Lenovo ThinkPad T520 laptop. This notebook computer comes with a 2.5GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 4GBs of RAM, a 500GB hard drive and an integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000 processor.

 

The new Mint also features new software. For the longest time, Cinnamon continued to use GTK3-based GNOME desktop apps. In practice this mean Mint's developers used older program packages that had been patched to look like Cinnamon apps. The Mint team has gotten tired of this thankless task.

 

Now Mint features X-Apps. These are forks of existing popular GNOME applications. Their purpose, according to Mint lead developer Clem Lefebvre is "to provide generic, desktop-agnostic and distro-agnostic [applications with] the functionality users already enjoy." In other words, "the goal of the X-Apps is not to reinvent the wheel. ... It's to guarantee the maintenance of applications we already enjoyed and to steer their development in a direction that benefits multiple desktop environments."

 

The first five X-apps are:

• Pix, which is based on gThumb, which is an application to import and organize your photos.
• Xed, the new default text editor.
• Xviewer, which is based on Eye of GNOME, a graphics viewer.
• Xreader which sprang from MATE's Atril and is the new default document and PDF reader.
• Xplayer which is built from Totem. This is Mint's new default media player for music and videos.

If you really want to use the older GNOME applications, you can. I wouldn't. Except for the names, the only thing you'll notice about these new apps is they look and work better.

 

Mint also features up-to-date versions of popular Linux applications. These include Firefox 47 for web browsing; Gimp 2.8.16 for graphics editing; LibreOffice 3.12 for the office-suite, and Thunderbird 38.7.2 for the e-mail client.

 

Of course, if you'd prefer something else, Mint makes it easy to switch it up. For example, I immediately replaced Thunderbird with Evolution 3.18.5.2.

Mint's system Update Manager has also received a nice face-lift. With it you can now easily choose between:

1. Update the system with stable versions of software
2. Update the system with stable versions of software as above, but show whether the user would like to install additional updates which could lead to instability issues
3. Update everything, and if something breaks, then you better know how to fix it!

You may notice that update to an entirely new operating system, which you may not want, isn't listed.

Besides, once you get used to Mint, which looks and works a lot like Windows XP, you may not want to move to a new operating system. I haven't, and I use almost every desktop OS on the planet.

 

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[Israeli_Eagle]

I agree Mint 18 Sarah, but MATE is still the best!

[steven36]

I knew who wrote this article before  i looked at the source Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols   He's a Linux Mint fanboy so hes about opinionated as a windows fanboy  , but unlike windows Linux Mint is just a rouge flavor of Ubuntu that Ubuntu don't even fully support Linux Mint support part of it and Ubuntu supports the rest of it   . Its one flavor out of a big sea of Linux Distros . Also hes jumping the gun Microsoft has yet to try charge me a subscription but  if they do i will cross that bridge when it gets here  and unless AMD gets better divers I have at lest one PC that's  never going to use Linux Mint 18.

[Avitar]

Okay, this article has some very logically flawed fallacy. To start with.. what programs can i run on it? What games can I run on it? What does it do that makes my life easier?

 

These are stupid questions that an advanced Computer Guy should know the answer to already... if someone who knows more than me can tell me how to get League of Legends running on Linux that'd be great. Until then, KALI LINUX is and will be the best OS ever made. What does it do? HACK THE WORLD. What games can it run? Who needs games when you can hack free wifi, passwords, routers, phones, brute force encryption ... all of these OUT OF THE BOX.

 

KALI LINUX for life. Did I mention that it has the same UI and windows that MAC OSX has? It's fast, stable, reliable, full feature set preinstalled.

[visualbuffs]

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10 hours ago, Batu69 said:

You could keep worrying about being forced to upgrade to Windows 10, or you could try the best of all Linux desktops: Mint 18.

You can turn the Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop into the desktop of your dreams.

 

Indeed, from where I sit, it's not only the best Linux desktop, it's the best desktop operating system -- period.

Many of you, for example, are struggling with the question of whether to "upgrade" to Windows 10. Many of you feel -- with some reason -- you're being forced to move from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Others are now realizing that Microsoft seems to be changing Windows from a purchase model to a subscription model. If you really want to "own" your operating system, you're going to need to move from Apple's macOS, Google Android/Chrome OS, or Windows 10 to Linux. All the other "desktop" operating systems are moving to subscription and cloud models.

 

That said, what's great about this latest version of Mint is that it's a solid, up-to-date Linux desktop where you, and nobody but you, gets to decide what you run.

Specifically, Mint 18 is long-term support desktop. Mint will be supporting it until 2021. It's built on the foundation of Ubuntu 16.04.

 

As such, Mint uses the Linux 4.4 kernel. On top of that it uses the X.org 1.18.3 windowing system. While Mint's default desktop is Cinnamon, like I said earlier, you, not some company, get to choose your desktop. MATE, the GNOME 2.x clone, is already supported. Other desktops, such as KDE, LXDE, and Xfce, will be available soon.

 

Despite these changes, Mint still runs on old computers you have sitting in your garage. You only need 512MBs of RAM to run it, although 1GB is recommended. You can fit Mint on a 10GB hard-drive, although 20GB is recommended. As for a display you can run it on 1024×768 resolution or even lower if you don't mind using the ALT key to drag windows with the mouse.

 

There have been some changes in what Mint can support. The 64-bit ISO image can boot with BIOS or UEFI, but the 32-bit version will only work with BIOS. Mint highly recommends running the 64-bit version on any modern -- late 90s and up -- computers.

 

As for UEFI, Mint has no trouble with it so long as you disable the Windows specific Secure Boot. Mint's developers warn you about running Mint on systems with Secure Boot enabled, but I haven't had any trouble with running Mint side-by-side on my Secure Boot enabled Windows systems.

 

I ran Mint 18 on a system with hardware specs that were overkill for it: My work desktop. This is an older Dell XPS 8300. It has a 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, 8GBs of RAM, and an AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphic card. Mint 18 ran great on it.

 

Mint 18 also ran smoothly on my 2011 Lenovo ThinkPad T520 laptop. This notebook computer comes with a 2.5GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 4GBs of RAM, a 500GB hard drive and an integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000 processor.

 

The new Mint also features new software. For the longest time, Cinnamon continued to use GTK3-based GNOME desktop apps. In practice this mean Mint's developers used older program packages that had been patched to look like Cinnamon apps. The Mint team has gotten tired of this thankless task.

 

Now Mint features X-Apps. These are forks of existing popular GNOME applications. Their purpose, according to Mint lead developer Clem Lefebvre is "to provide generic, desktop-agnostic and distro-agnostic [applications with] the functionality users already enjoy." In other words, "the goal of the X-Apps is not to reinvent the wheel. ... It's to guarantee the maintenance of applications we already enjoyed and to steer their development in a direction that benefits multiple desktop environments."

 

The first five X-apps are:

• Pix, which is based on gThumb, which is an application to import and organize your photos.
• Xed, the new default text editor.
• Xviewer, which is based on Eye of GNOME, a graphics viewer.
• Xreader which sprang from MATE's Atril and is the new default document and PDF reader.
• Xplayer which is built from Totem. This is Mint's new default media player for music and videos.

If you really want to use the older GNOME applications, you can. I wouldn't. Except for the names, the only thing you'll notice about these new apps is they look and work better.

 

Mint also features up-to-date versions of popular Linux applications. These include Firefox 47 for web browsing; Gimp 2.8.16 for graphics editing; LibreOffice 3.12 for the office-suite, and Thunderbird 38.7.2 for the e-mail client.

 

Of course, if you'd prefer something else, Mint makes it easy to switch it up. For example, I immediately replaced Thunderbird with Evolution 3.18.5.2.

Mint's system Update Manager has also received a nice face-lift. With it you can now easily choose between:

1. Update the system with stable versions of software
2. Update the system with stable versions of software as above, but show whether the user would like to install additional updates which could lead to instability issues
3. Update everything, and if something breaks, then you better know how to fix it!

You may notice that update to an entirely new operating system, which you may not want, isn't listed.

Besides, once you get used to Mint, which looks and works a lot like Windows XP, you may not want to move to a new operating system. I haven't, and I use almost every desktop OS on the planet.

 

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remember linux mint is based on ubuntu! they only modified it

so the best is ubuntu for you

 

ubuntu vs fedora vs arch vs suse and many more

 

bsd vs solaris vs linux

 

linux mint is based on ubuntu

a modified ubuntu

similar looks to windows not real linux desktop look

 

 

xubuntu = ubuntu + xfce for me is the best linux desktop

XFCE is the 2nd original desktop environment after gnome

fedora also using xfce and many more

 

cinnamon is used in modern os

 

 

 

[TheMountain]

I like Linux Mint. And I enjoy using various Linux / UNIX operating systems.

[Kalju]

Quite a pleasant, I'm testing it just now.

[Matador]

I've enjoyed Linux Mint in the past but apparently they got rid of the built-in codecs in this one... and apparently it has some other issues as well.

 

See here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-sarah.html

 

Not so great after all 

[steven36]

11 hours ago, Matador said:

I've enjoyed Linux Mint in the past but apparently they got rid of the built-in codecs in this one... and apparently it has some other issues as well.

 

See here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-sarah.html

 

Not so great after all 

codecs  are not a problem on Linux you can always find them and install the ones you need ..Linux Mint 17. x never had x265 codec i had to get them from  Doug McMahon's ppa  and “struktur AG” team's ppa ..They removed it for legal  reasons  some codecs  are free to use  but not free to be disturbed in pre compiled software, so you have to install them yourself  it protects them from being sued .

 

How to install codec  in Linux mint 18

Linux mint codecs are in the  software update manger  and  you can find any other codec you may need from a 3rd party ppa that maintains updated software for Ubuntu.

[ontryit]

On 7/12/2016 at 6:48 AM, Israeli_Eagle said:

I agree Mint 18 Sarah, but MATE is still the best!

 

I think you mint Cinnamon edition vs MATE edition, because "Sarah" was the codename of Linux Mint 18.

Cinnamon - sleek, modern, innovative.

MATE - stable, robust, traditional.

[Israeli_Eagle]

2 hours ago, ontryit said:

 

I think you mint Cinnamon edition vs MATE edition, because "Sarah" was the codename of Linux Mint 18.

Cinnamon - sleek, modern, innovative.

MATE - stable, robust, traditional.

 

Yes, of course. Sarah has also all editions.

[steven36]

12 hours ago, ontryit said:

 

I think you mint Cinnamon edition vs MATE edition, because "Sarah" was the codename of Linux Mint 18.

Cinnamon - sleek, modern, innovative.

MATE - stable, robust, traditional.

Linux Mint, 18  has Cinnamon edition has MATE edition ,KDE and Xfce Editions will be out soon, but saying it's the best desktop ever  is pure opinion . Linux Mint 17x runs better  on more hardware than  Linux Mint, 18  does, even it want run on this computer i'm on right now and even Linux Min 17 x runs fine on it   .Also  It's based on Ubuntu 16.0.4 witch is a unstable LTS  release .  Besides the fact AMD have no good drivers for these releases , Anything based on Ubuntu before it's 1st point release  is always full of bugs .

 

Also the fact  is Linux  only has 2% of the desktop market  and has so many ditros its impossible to  count them all . I like Linux but not as much as back when i 1st started using it ..Sooner or latter you will most likely come across something that  pisses you off about Linux..  that's why it only has a 2% market .Windows wont lose anyone much unless it becomes rentware  for home users .