microsoft Users Unite Against Microsoft Over Windows 10 Upgrades, NY AG Pursuing Suit

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Users Unite Against Microsoft Over Windows 10 Upgrades, NY AG Pursuing Suit

 

 

Report claims Microsoft could face legal trouble in the US

 

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Microsoft is preparing to bring its Windows 10 upgrade promo to an end, but users aren’t yet ready to leave behind the company’s rather aggressive push for the new OS, and Redmond could face new legal trouble in the United States.

 

A report coming from Rockland County Times, a publication based in Rockland County, New York, claims that users have sent complaints regarding Microsoft’s forced Windows 10 upgrades, and all of them have been forwarded to Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

 

As a result, a lawsuit against Microsoft is now being pursued, the source adds, explaining that users can also email the Attorney General should they want to complain about the way the Windows 10 upgrade has been pushed to their computer.

 

Furthermore, it’s believed that other Attorney Generals based in several other states are also considering cases against Microsoft for the same thing, although details in this regard are not yet available.

 

Upgrade offer to end on July 29

 

Specifically, Microsoft is being accused of installing Windows 10 on users’ computers without their consent. Windows 10 is offered free of charge to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users and the company is making the upgrade available through an app called Get Windows 10 which automatically downloads the necessary files and launches the installer.

 

In some cases, however, users claimed that the upgrade to Windows 10 was started even though they didn’t agree with it, and a woman in the United States has even won a lawsuit after filing a lawsuit against Microsoft for this.

 

More recently, the software giant has updated the Windows 10 upgrade prompts with new notifications that include an easier way to refuse the move to the new OS, but with the offer ending on July 29, it all seems to be too little too late. We’ve contacted Microsoft to ask if they are aware of the case that the New York AG is pursuing and will update the article should more information be provided.

 

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[PrEzi]

Good. I would also sue them for the inability to control Windows Updates -- in Home Edition, or not really having under full control (Pro) and for bundling security updates into cumulative packages... Once one of the fixes has problems you need to uninstall the whole cumulative pack. Also why no word about privacy and telemetry? 

Still no one cares or what?

[humble3d]

These issues may be akin to the Hillary Syndrome; IE, some people are above the law...

And, since we would not want to offend anyone who has their own subjective moral compasses,

some jack-offs still support Adolph Hitler... 

[straycat19]

3 hours ago, PrEzi said:

Good. I would also sue them for the inability to control Windows Updates -- in Home Edition, or not really having under full control (Pro) and for bundling security updates into cumulative packages... Once one of the fixes has problems you need to uninstall the whole cumulative pack. Also why no word about privacy and telemetry? 

Still no one cares or what?

 

Where have you been?  Privacy, telemetry, updates, etc have been the primary focus of most forums for the last 11 months.  I and a lot of friends have spent every free minute rolling back computers and fixing rollbacks that didn't work for thousands of people for FREE.  We setup help stations in senior citizen centers, in community centers in small towns/villages, and did countless remote assists plus assists over our phones for people that we couldn't otherwise reach.  That is our contribution to stopping the idiocy that is Microsoft.  So I ask you, what have you done?

[PrEzi]

2 hours ago, straycat19 said:

 

Where have you been?  Privacy, telemetry, updates, etc have been the primary focus of most forums for the last 11 months.  I and a lot of friends have spent every free minute rolling back computers and fixing rollbacks that didn't work for thousands of people for FREE.  We setup help stations in senior citizen centers, in community centers in small towns/villages, and did countless remote assists plus assists over our phones for people that we couldn't otherwise reach.  That is our contribution to stopping the idiocy that is Microsoft.  So I ask you, what have you done?

I am not sure if you understood me correctly. This was rather a question -- why there was no lawsuit against lack of update control, telemetry and privacy issues etc.

 

I am not saying that Microsoft is doing great with W10.... actually quite the opposite.

 

Chill mate.... I also help people to at least block the nagware in Win7/8/8.1 and prevent "accidental" upgrades to W10. And even if I also provide support to roll back and/or to customize W10 that is can be considered as at least "useable".

Is this enuff for ya? Or shall I also create a big banner and go to the streets protesting?

[steven36]

4 hours ago, straycat19 said:

 

Where have you been?  Privacy, telemetry, updates, etc have been the primary focus of most forums for the last 11 months.  I and a lot of friends have spent every free minute rolling back computers and fixing rollbacks that didn't work for thousands of people for FREE.  We setup help stations in senior citizen centers, in community centers in small towns/villages, and did countless remote assists plus assists over our phones for people that we couldn't otherwise reach.  That is our contribution to stopping the idiocy that is Microsoft.  So I ask you, what have you done?

Telemetry has always existed in windows  and if they did all windows updates windows 10 Telemetry is in windows 7 and windows 8.1 even  ..It looks like if you're friends were smart enough to administer there own updates they be smart enough to block  Windows Problem Reporting and other things with a firewall in Windows 10 were it cant call out. 

 

Only a not so computer keen person  would think Microsoft could force you too use Windows 10.. Because they can't because if you don't install the get  windows 10 patches to began  with its not possible..

 

That's the problem most people are not very smart all they know about a O/S is how to turn it on and surf the internet or it would never happened to them if you let them upgrade you're O/S it  just shows you're own lack of knowledge.  

 

As far as privacy people have had tools to block that crap since XP and XP antispy  Windows has never had privacy unless  you tweak it or/and block it from calling home..

 

You can block updates in Windows 10 its not very hard and since you claimed you not done none in windows 7 in over a year why wouldn't you just block them in windows 10.?

 

But i agree with @PrEzi for us who do updates they should  not be in just one patch, we should be able to uninstall a bad update if one happens and not have uninstall all updates and lock it down.

 

So really all we can do on windows 10 is put off updates by blocking them and see if there's bugs in the updates from others testing them and install them if there's not ,but i guess most of you are not that smart since you think Microsoft can force you to use something you don't want too .

 

You just want too moan about the problem instead of finding a solution . I was hopeing when June 29th all the press about windows 10 would die down but looks like some noobs who think Microsoft can force you to use windows 10  will keep it in the news along time, because it could go to court for years.

 

Since there's always been a solution to stop upgrades to windows 10 in Windows 7 and 8.1 by simply  not  installing get windows 10 patches its only  a problem for the computer illiterate . And when dealing with them , you can explain to them a million times  and it does no good. So they made tools like GWX Control Panel and still they don't even know how to install a freeware program to stop it from upgrading . And there problem is fixing to go away  soon were if they don't buy or pirate  windows 10 there will be no chance of them getting it. So if they not solved there problem by now there's no hope for these noobs.

 

There's over 320 million of us on windows 10 and growing there's a lot more people on Windows 10 than ever was on Windows 8*x already . And were into finding solutions  to are problems as they arise,  without some haters putting down windows 10 because of there lack of computer knowledge getting  in the way. who don't even know how to install a freeware program to prevent something.  Its a wonder they even know how to install a antivirus  or anything and there not infected by a virus.

[Karlston]

Three cheers for the NY AG...

 

Microsoft must be held to account for their unconscionable Windows 10 upgrade conduct. If they're not, their methods will be seen as acceptable, and that's unthinkable.

 

That said, Windows 10 (the product) must be kept separate from this. Too many good developers worked too hard on it to blame it for the unethical behaviour ordered by Microsoft management.

[steven36]

39 minutes ago, Karlston said:

Three cheers for the NY AG...

 

Microsoft must be held to account for their unconscionable Windows 10 upgrade conduct. If they're not, their methods will be seen as acceptable, and that's unthinkable.

 

That said, Windows 10 (the product) must be kept separate from this. Too many good developers worked too hard on it to blame it for the unethical behaviour ordered by Microsoft management.

That's yet to be seen that they be accountable  for anything , The best we can hope for is they improve Windows 10 because of the law suites because Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 is not even a problem anymore you  can cancel the update easy now and its not going be free but a few more weeks. .

 

You're talking about Microsoft the same company who got sued by Sun Java for stealing it and lost , The same company who stole QuickTime from Apple and lost and has been in court a million times since it's existed .They have so much money they just pay there debt and move on  and do what they do like it never happened.

 

You're talking about Microsoft who are known  risk takers every since it's existed . That buys things for millions of dollars  and don't even know  if it will pay off .  That's all  GWX  was a risk to them  that's not going to pay off. If they didn't steal it and got away with it ,they bought it and made a profit  ether way..they have always been crooks.

 

They may had lost the battle with QuickTime witch is no longer updated for windows  but Windows 10 has built in x264 support  so they have bought it by now and Java is a security risk so Sun done Microsoft a favor really by washing there hands of it so in the end they were the winners.

[Karlston]

27 minutes ago, steven36 said:

They have so much money they just pay there debt and move on  and do what they do like it never happened.

 

True. $10K is barely Nadella's lunch money. But, say 100,000 users each winning $10K will see a $billion dent in Microsoft's finances, and a shedload of negative publicity.

 

There's a reason why Microsoft didn't fight that recent $10K ruling. They needed to sweep it under the carpet quickly, before any large-scale negative publicity built and the flood gates opened. Whether they've succeeded or not, only time will tell...

[steven36]

1 hour ago, Karlston said:

 

True. $10K is barely Nadella's lunch money. But, say 100,000 users each winning $10K will see a $billion dent in Microsoft's finances, and a shedload of negative publicity.

 

There's a reason why Microsoft didn't fight that recent $10K ruling. They needed to sweep it under the carpet quickly, before any large-scale negative publicity built and the flood gates opened. Whether they've succeeded or not, only time will tell...

A billion is not very much to Microsoft even its worth  $70 Billion they would still be worth $69 Billion

http://gonetworth.net/microsoft-net-worth/

 

They would make 2 billion back in no time . Its stock is owned by 10 billionaires and if push came to shove they could pull out of the USA and there is nothing the government could do . When all you're profits are stored off shore and the government cant touch it like Microsoft's is you're above the law.  All  of  rich Cooperate America  have there money offshore  in case the stock market was to crash and so they don't have pay taxes on there profits.

 

Monday-Fri every week when the stock market opens 52 weeks a year Microsoft takes a chance at losing billions that's all Cooperate America is a bunch risk takers who put there profits offshore so they cant lose it all. Back in the 30s everyone lost everything and  many jumped out of buildings or had to do manual labor in work camps or starve to death .

 

They lost $11 Billion fooling with Nokia phones They paid $9.4-billion for it and lost 11 billion It made the news  May 26, 2016

http://wolfstreet.com/2016/05/26/microsoft-writes-off-11-billion-on-9-4-billion-nokia-buy-nixes-27650-jobs-shuts-down-consumer-smartphones/

 

Also they lost  in the stock market   Microsoft’s stock plunge wipes out over $30 billion in market value Apr 22, 2016

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/microsofts-stock-plunge-wipes-out-30-billion-in-market-value-2016-04-22

 

Once they  announced   they were going to downsize there Windows Phone business  , there stock came back up .

 

Microsoft's Windows OEM Pro revenue declined 6 percent in 2015 and declined 13 percent in 2014,  18 months of this was the newest O/S was windows 8.1.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/28/10858474/microsoft-earnings-report-q2-2016

 

It baffles me ,they are losing the most money on PCs and phones  but they still was willing to risk more with windows 10 ? Nothing bad will happen to Microsoft  when they lose money they just  cut jobs to make it back and it only hurts there employees in the end. when they lose there Jobs and there jobs end up in China or Mexico. only paying those workers a fraction of what there USA workers were paid.

 

You think losing a measly billion dollars will hurt them that pocket change to them ?