dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 1:50 PM, knowledge said: On 9/19/2018 at 12:54 PM, Recruit said: The method with routing the IDM traffic through Adguard by my friend Taker still works fine for me. Just I had to add some additional lines with the new IPs. Quite an easy job for everyone. Greetings, Expand is y Adguard one of the best plus tell Taker were he is nowdays ill be looking for him soon Expand BTW, since you're using the same firewall since a pretty long time — did either of you notice that it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamanokaito Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: BTW, since you're using the same firewall since a pretty long time — did either of you notice that it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand Windows 10 Firewall Control i don't like this app. This app there are many bugs P/s: With me ! Firewall Windows / IPsec / DNSCrypt Proxy / Ublock Orgin / OpenVPN ===> All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 2:24 PM, hamanokaito said: On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: BTW, since you're using the same firewall since a pretty long time — did either of you notice that it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand Windows 10 Firewall Control i don't like this app. This app there are many bugs P/s: With me ! Firewall Windows / IPsec / DNSCrypt Proxy / Ublock Orgin / OpenVPN ===> All the best Expand Have encountered a few bugs in the brief 48 hours of my testing — which bugs did you come across? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recruit Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: BTW, since you're using the same firewall since a pretty long time — did either of you notice that it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand Oh, yeah....I saw it. I haven't tested too many firewalls. Are there some firewalls with ELAM driver used to protect the service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamanokaito Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 2:33 PM, dcs18 said: Have encountered a few bugs in the brief 48 hours of my testing — which bugs did you come across? Expand I alway got high cpu when use protocols P2P. On 9/19/2018 at 3:01 PM, Recruit said: Oh, yeah....I saw it. I haven't tested too many firewalls. Are there some firewalls with ELAM driver used to protect the service? Expand If you use taskmanager or command stop service of Windows 10 Firewall Control you will got lost connect all network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:01 PM, Recruit said: Are there some firewalls with ELAM driver used to protect the service? Expand Have not tried any drivers — but, have used a couple of workarounds. On 9/19/2018 at 3:01 PM, hamanokaito said: I alway got high cpu when use protocols P2P. Expand I see — which P2P client were you using when you noticed the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recruit Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:06 PM, dcs18 said: a couple of workarounds Expand Please share them with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamanokaito Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:06 PM, dcs18 said: Have not tried any drivers — but, have used a couple of workarounds. I see — which P2P client were you using when you noticed the issue? Expand I use tixati. If i use idm download 1 file max speed. I still got high cpu <== So sad Well ! i don't understand that software <=> Windows 10 Firewall Control And i got bugs can't show infor block or ask for connect when have app connect to network. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 if u have bugs with Windows 10 Firewall Control we can help u no problems is best program no firewall like it i think the more u use it the better it is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: BTW, since you're using the same firewall since a pretty long time — did either of you notice that it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand sure i no this and u can kill it with Process Lasso but i think real is no problems for me as i use shadowmode with this program and little things like i do not need a firewall program but as its the best program how i cant use it i do not rely on just one program for security :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamanokaito Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:56 PM, knowledge said: if u have bugs with Windows 10 Firewall Control we can help u no problems is best program no firewall like it i think the more u use it the better it is real Expand Ok, tks for help ! P/s: BUT, Well ! I always have trouble using Windows 10 Firewall Control , i will never use this soft again, And now ! i have to got sleep, see you again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 4:34 PM, hamanokaito said: Ok, tks for help ! P/s: BUT, Well ! I always have trouble using Windows 10 Firewall Control , i will never use this soft again, Expand sorry u feel this way about a good program but ill not make u use it as u is boss of your own security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 3:36 PM, hamanokaito said: I use tixati. If i use idm download 1 file max speed. I still got high cpu <== So sad Well ! i don't understand that software <=> Windows 10 Firewall Control And i got bugs can't show infor block or ask for connect when have app connect to network. 🙄 Expand IDM is working fine, here . . . . I'm a uTorrent user — however, the zone is the same for Tixati. Have not yet had the opportunity to create my P2P zone. The IDM zone did not live-up to my exacting standards — had to make exhaustive changes. Also, one look at the in-built P2P zone was enough to reveal a glaring flaw — it allows everything by default:— Can't emphasize enough — how imperative it is . . . . . for the discerning User to create his own custom zones. On 9/19/2018 at 3:01 PM, hamanokaito said: If you use taskmanager or command stop service of Windows 10 Firewall Control you will got lost connect all network. Expand Nah, internet is not lost after the service of Windows 10 Firewall Control — to the contrary, all apps. & programs (including blocked ones) are then able to dial home. But then, that's not even the point — a link in the chain of security system as important as the firewall should never be susceptible to termination by other apps. & programs. On 9/19/2018 at 3:56 PM, knowledge said: if u have bugs with Windows 10 Firewall Control we can help u no problems is best program no firewall like it i think the more u use it the better it is real Expand Please help me to resolve the following bug — actually, it's a vulnerability that can be a deal-breaker for any serious enthusiast:— On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: <snip> it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 4:54 PM, dcs18 said: Please help me to resolve the following bug — actually, it's a vulnerability that can be a deal-breaker for any serious enthusiast:— On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: <snip> it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand i think if just kill exe and not service exe it will still block programs i think not 100% on that but as i am sure we have talked about things like this befor when programs can be killed with program like ProcessLasso as i am sure u understand much service exe can be killed with things like cmd and shell and more but i am like u i no like it maybe we need a topic for things like how to stop service exe from been stoped or killed this i think be a good topic and much to learn about it ill start to think of ways to make sure service cant be killed but its not going to be a easy thing to do with all the programs people use nowdays Expand much things have vulnerability then we real think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:04 PM, knowledge said: On 9/19/2018 at 4:54 PM, dcs18 said: Please help me to resolve the following bug — actually, it's a vulnerability that can be a deal-breaker for any serious enthusiast:— On 9/19/2018 at 2:01 PM, dcs18 said: <snip> it's possible to terminate Windows 10 Firewall Control with the Task Manager? Expand Expand much things have vulnerability then we real think Expand While bugs can be pardoned, this particular vulnerability is so unforgivably serious that it disqualifies Windows 10 Firewall Control as a potential weapon in ones security arsenal — not surprising that the last time I used it, it took me hardly 10 minutes to pronounce this adverse verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 your head is the real firewall but i have talked with the developer befor ill ask about this more as u have said its real a big vulnerability but if u use windows it have biger vulnerability then this program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recruit Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Well Guys, How I said earlier: I am not the smartest guy from the world and here there are lots other people better than myself. I have no idea how to do it. I know that some anti viruses and anti-malwares use a ELAM (Early Launch Anti-Malware) driver that is able to create a protected service. This .sys driver needs to be signed by Microsoft, with a special certificate that shows it is a Early Launch AM Driver. Only some software vendors are able to get this certificate for their drivers. More information here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/install/elam-prerequisites @dcs18 If you have any other alternatives, please teach me or us. Greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:45 PM, knowledge said: your head is the real firewall Expand In that case, why use Windows 10 Firewall Control or any firewall — for that matter why even use any sort of security (when something . . . . . anything calls home as it IS bound to, just imagine in your mind for it to be blocked.) On 9/19/2018 at 5:45 PM, knowledge said: but i have talked with the developer befor ill ask about this more as u have said its real a big vulnerability but if u use windows it have biger vulnerability then this program Expand 2 wrongs do not make 1 right — just because Windows has a vulnerability (bigger or smaller,) does that make it right for Windows 10 Firewall Control to justify carrying forward such a serious vulnerability . . . . . . over all these years? Not to forget — Windows vulnerabilities get addressed sooner or later (a completely different matter that Microsoft resolves one issue and introduces 10 more.) On 9/19/2018 at 5:47 PM, Recruit said: If you have any other alternatives, please teach me or us. Greetings, Expand I will, after some time — just busy with some deployments, right now. ATM, thinking seriously of trying-out ZoneAlarm Pro 2018 before locking-on to Windows 10 Firewall Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 6:08 PM, dcs18 said: In that case, why use Windows 10 Firewall Control or any firewall — for that matter why even use any sort of security (when something . . . . . anything calls home as it IS bound to, just imagine in your mind for it to be blocked.) Expand if u see my comments i said real i not need a firewall but i use this program to watch what is going on and it helps save me data plus i block much things in my head and on pc with out firewalls but i understand what u mean 100% this is some thing ill be looking at much more now 1 minute ago, dcs18 said: 2 wrongs do not make 1 right — just because Windows has a vulnerability (bigger or smaller,) does that make it right for Windows 10 Firewall Control to justify carrying forward such a serious vulnerability . . . . . . over all these years? Expand i never said it can make 2 wrongs right i was just saying in todays times we all have to watch not just programs but the windows we use and more but again i am with u 100% u is right 1 minute ago, dcs18 said: Not to forget — Windows vulnerabilities get addressed sooner or later (a completely different matter that Microsoft resolves one issue and introduces 10 more.) I will, after some time — just busy with some deployments, right now. ATM, thinking seriously of trying-out ZoneAlarm Pro 2018 before locking-on to Windows 10 Firewall Control. Expand sure Microsoft is big team but none is perfect its like i said we all have much to learn and its mean not just us the users but the developers the problem is some developer is big and some not i hope and will talk with developer 100% about this more thats for sure but ill not give up on this program some as with ccleaner i keep to what i no and like u may think is crazy but its me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukun Cabul Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just tested and I don't like it Blocking IDM IPs using Windows Firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recruit Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Business Calendar 2 is now v2.31.0 WHAT'S NEW - auto-completion from history for title and location now is a free feature - inviting contacts directly when entering the event title now is a free feature - auto-completion of location based on contact addresses now is a free feature - new option to hide checkboxes in agenda and task widgets - improved sharing of locations from Google Maps to BC 2 - bug fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 6:18 PM, knowledge said: if u see my comments i said real i not need a firewall Expand On 9/19/2018 at 6:18 PM, knowledge said: but i use this program to watch what is going on and it helps save me data Expand Hope you notice your own contradiction. On 9/19/2018 at 6:18 PM, knowledge said: the problem is some developer is big and some not i hope and will talk with developer 100% about this more thats for sure but ill not give up on this program some as with ccleaner i keep to what i no and like u may think is crazy but its me Expand Big or small cannot be offered as an excuse — Alex of Binisoft, the Developer of Windows Firewall Control (WFC) is a much more smaller fry than Sphinx, the Developer of Windows 10 Firewall Control. As an mere example, see for yourself who is the one to suffer — the mileage speaks for itself (check out the following page):— https://www.wilderssecurity.com/forums/other-firewalls.31/ On 9/19/2018 at 6:18 PM, knowledge said: but ill not give up on this program some as with ccleaner i keep to what i no and like u may think is crazy but its me Expand Whether you'll give-up on Windows 10 Firewall Control or not is the least of anybody's concern. In as far as I'm concerned, I'm having second thoughts despite having resolved the issue, in question — there are some other concerns which I'll post ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 no Hope you notice your own contradiction. real ill say again i am loyal to the things i like nomatter how bad is i stay loyal i no want fight with u about little comments real as my friend u is we need to think ways passed this but ill said ill talk with developer as far as I'm concerned this is still best program or one of them sure is not perfect but what is nowdays not much ill comment more when i think of ways to fix this or talked with developer i have tested much firewalls and for me this one a keeper and ill end nw as real we just talk but no help fix shame we all smart people but we cant agree on little things nomatter ill stay loyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 "How To Make The Service Of Your Security System Persistent" Method # 1:— Reveal hidden contents Method # 2:— Reveal hidden contents Method # 3:— Reveal hidden contents . . . . . . . . . . use both — Method # 1 and Method # 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 7:39 PM, knowledge said: ill say again i am loyal Expand On 9/19/2018 at 7:39 PM, knowledge said: i am loyal Expand On 9/19/2018 at 7:39 PM, knowledge said: ill stay loyal Expand I'm afraid — I'm realistic. On 9/19/2018 at 7:39 PM, knowledge said: ill talk with developer Expand Don't bother — after your previous post, I've decided to uninstall this PoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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