Diego T. Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Just wanted to throw this info out to nsaners. After installing rollup updates onto Server 2012 R2 Datacenter my memory would start at say 6% and would slowly increase to 100%. This all happens in about a 5 minute span. After that my computer would freeze and lockup. So would reboot and the whole process would start over again. Reinstalled Server without updates and memory sticks at 10%. Rollups were no good for me.I thought My PC went wrong and Im going to clean install 8.1 now since my PC freezes and locks and then comes back to life after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobrPatty Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Just wanted to throw this info out to nsaners. After installing rollup updates onto Server 2012 R2 Datacenter my memory would start at say 6% and would slowly increase to 100%. This all happens in about a 5 minute span. After that my computer would freeze and lockup. So would reboot and the whole process would start over again. Reinstalled Server without updates and memory sticks at 10%. Rollups were no good for me.I thought My PC went wrong and Im going to clean install 8.1 now since my PC freezes and locks and then comes back to life after a while.Did you happen to run this in command prompt? Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBaseIt suppose to clean the WinSxS folder and give you a nice up-to-date new windows. I did a clean install of my Server. Installed rollup updates and memory is behaving itself. I'm thinking problem was with the cleaning of the WinSxS folder to begin with. what do you think there Diego T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoneye Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Windows from WindowsSetupBox.exe is final .iso and can i use it without any problems?just use the burned iso files to do upgrade , no need to use the *.exe file and even better not to use it since it asked for legit key while the iso doesn't :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThE iNsAnE Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Guys this is not said by me...just sharing...credit goes to the actual author...sourceSome guys thought that the "new" win8.1 ISO's released by MS on GA is a new compilation to replace RTM build 9600.16384, some refer it as RTM-2. And most people, already installed 9600.16384 and added RollupA updates, tended to reformat and fresh install with the new ISO's, thinking that it is something new and different.I have downloaded the win8.1Pro X86 GA edition, let's see what's in it:First I extracted install.esd to a new drive, by going thru installation(in a VM) and kill the process after expanding files, all this time web connection was disabled so nothing to affect it. Windows\explorer.exe reported 9600.16408, and system32\ntoskrnl.exe reported 9600.16404Now, when installation is completed, open Control Panel ->Windows Update -> Installed UpdatesSince there is no restore point, the 4 updates could not be un-installed, I am quite sure if it could be done, it would simply roll back to nothing but build 9600.16384, nothing more, nothing less.Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasi Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 gonna try this rollup os Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyj Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 OS build number is determind with ntoskrnl.exe version, not Explorer.exe file name. The article was posted here explaining all this and the difference between 16404,16408 and 16384 but whole thread has been accidentally deleted by a mod and are trying to get it back[NEWS/DISCUSSIONS]: Windows 8.1 General Availability - Page 57this it?The final RTM build is 16384 and the GA build is really also 16384.only certain files have been updated to various newer versions on a file-to-file basis. The final build should be defined as the build that forms the base image which is 16384. In the past any subsequent RTM candidate build involves the build number of every single file on the system being bumped up. But once it hits RTM, the build numbers are incremented only on a per-file basis from hotfixes. The reported new build is just the file version of a single file on the system. You could take Windows 8.1 Preview (not even 9600), forcibly replace the kernel exe with a 9600.16404 one, and it'll report that Windows is 9600.16404 when literally every other file on the system isn't even 9600. Which is why reporting the kernel exe's build as the "Windows" build is misleading. The "Windows" build really should be the baseline version and the version of the vast majority of the files on the OS, even after the GA rollup is 16384. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) @JonnyjThat is not the article i wanted, but it is saying something similar , but thanks anyway :) Edited October 22, 2013 by tezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TShadow Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) I downloaded Windows 8.1 PRO (English US) x 64 ISO from TPB and compared it to my own download. The files seems similar except the install.esd the one from your iso is 2.571.347.876 bytes whilst mine is 2.603.230.654 bytes, furthermore drvmainxx.dll sysmainxx.sdb, upgrade_bulk.xml have different sizes.My system is Windows 8 with MMC. So it seems that every update downloaded with WindowsSetupBox is different. What do you think? Edited October 20, 2013 by TShadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 So it seems that every update downloaded with WindowsSetupBox is different. What do you think?ISOs generated through the Windows upgrade assistant are unique to each download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) So it seems that every update downloaded with WindowsSetupBox is different. What do you think?ISOs generated through the Windows upgrade assistant are unique to each download.How about the \sources\install.esd file, are they the same? I think so...Mine is (win 64bit en_us):Size: 2.6 GB (2,571,347,876 bytes)md5sum: f39a93420e9133905eed5adc49209b05 sha1sum: 788437d4a53adb69f05805388a00e4a7fcee0e10Can someone check? Edited October 20, 2013 by sps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 en-us x64File : install.esdSize : 2.39 GBCRC32 : 0ca809d2MD5 : d90dda0037ba636b183fa224cd8260b2SHA1 : 83a88c7a43946afd0f4b9342a6a472fa5a534e0cen-gb x64File : install.esdSize : 2.4 GBCRC32 : EC92811FMD5 : DA6451ECA18E39E13D75C4013C0000EFSHA-1 : E5D3184D78EE2D92E9BC7E0B3DEE690E73435093 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I downloaded Windows 8.1 PRO (English US) x 64 ISO from TPB and compared it to my own download.The files seems similar except the install.esd the one from your iso is 2.571.347.876 bytes whilst mine is 2.603.230.654 bytes, furthermore drvmainxx.dll sysmainxx.sdb, upgrade_bulk.xml have different sizes.My system is Windows 8 with MMC. So it seems that every update downloaded with WindowsSetupBox is different. What do you think?My install.esd size matches "2,571,347,876 bytes", where did you this from? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) en-us x64File : install.esdSize : 2.39 GBCRC32 : 0ca809d2MD5 : d90dda0037ba636b183fa224cd8260b2SHA1 : 83a88c7a43946afd0f4b9342a6a472fa5a534e0cen-gb x64File : install.esdSize : 2.4 GBCRC32 : EC92811FMD5 : DA6451ECA18E39E13D75C4013C0000EFSHA-1 : E5D3184D78EE2D92E9BC7E0B3DEE690E73435093No match here :( Not even the size... Edited October 20, 2013 by sps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 No match here :( Not even the size...We provide MSDN Edition Windows 8.1 with Rollup here its match hash files and we don't share any other link you should have download from here or other topic there you find 100s of them with any languages there >>>> Windows 8.1 RTM All Edition & Available Languages [updated List] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.PROFESSIONAL.RTM.X86.VOLUME.WITH.ROLLUP-1.UKRAINIAN.DVD-WZT magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9E1F582CF02A3BB481DDF12478CBA920F0991226 RELEASE DATE: 10/17/2013 RTM BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623 ROLLUP UPDATE BUILD: 9600.16404.WINBLUE_GDR.130913-2141 FILE: uk_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972681.iso SIZE: 2,847,971,328 byte SHA-1: CBB3C1A2B3FCE6235E2B7DBE3EE2725CD0984670 MD5: 4BBC7749E4591F30EFE6CAA31DEF48B0 NOTE: this is original MSDN image. Оригинальный - подлинный образ-дистрибутив c MSDN. This product download is available to Volume Licensing (VL) customers only. This ISO image included update rollup package Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 General Availability Update Rollup GDR - General Distribution Release - a GDR addresses an issue that has a broad customer impact, that has security implications, or that has both. A GDR is determined and issued by Microsoft as appropriate and when appropriate. GDRs are kept to a minimum. - a GDR cannot be requested by a customer. Microsoft internally determines whether a reported hotfix is classified as and delivered as a GDR. -a GDR is released through the download center. A GDR is also released through Microsoft Update, through Windows Update, or through both. by WZT/WZor 10|17|13 MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.PROFESSIONAL.RTM.X64.VOLUME.WITH.ROLLUP-1.UKRAINIAN.DVD-WZT magnet:?xt=urn:btih:96119F2EC2865435538F0894A0694BAFDBABA59A RELEASE DATE: 10/17/2013 RTM BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623 ROLLUP UPDATE BUILD: 9600.16404.WINBLUE_GDR.130913-2141 FILE: uk_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2972081.iso SIZE: 3,799,345,152 byte SHA-1: A7DAF97CF1B5E19128B3D660AD024639D9FC721C MD5: 65940DB513D0F42DE90096042DE0F142 NOTE: this is original MSDN image. This product download is available to Volume Licensing (VL) customers only. This ISO image included update rollup package Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 General Availability Update Rollup GDR - General Distribution Release - a GDR addresses an issue that has a broad customer impact, that has security implications, or that has both. A GDR is determined and issued by Microsoft as appropriate and when appropriate. GDRs are kept to a minimum. - a GDR cannot be requested by a customer. Microsoft internally determines whether a reported hotfix is classified as and delivered as a GDR. -a GDR is released through the download center. A GDR is also released through Microsoft Update, through Windows Update, or through both. by WZT/WZor 10|17|13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 is there a english version with rollup? or not yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 21 October 2013 Download Links are up to date today posted on Page #1 >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThE iNsAnE Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 21 October 2013 Download Links are up to date today posted on Page #1 >>>>bro please tell me something...i am really confused on this...the retail version of windows can be activated by both retail keys, MAK keys as well as KMS right??can the VL version of windows be activated by using retail keys?? or does it require only MAK keys and KMS???i know its a silly question but clear my doubts please.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 21 October 2013 Download Links are up to date today posted on Page #1 >>>>bro please tell me something...i am really confused on this...the retail version of windows can be activated by both retail keys, MAK keys as well as KMS right??can the VL version of windows be activated by using retail keys?? or does it require only MAK keys and KMS???i know its a silly question but clear my doubts please....Retail Edition can be activate both Retail and Mak Keys but not KMS ActivationVolume License Edition Mak Key and KMS Activation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio56 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 ----------------------ENGLISH.ENTERPRISE.N.ROLLUP-1------------------------- MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.ENTERPRISE.N.RTM.X86.WITH.ROLLUP-1.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT magnet:?xt=urn:btih:A00A8D79761924E50624E245059CACCAE9541FFA RELEASE DATE: 10/17/2013 RTM BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623 ROLLUP UPDATE BUILD: 9600.16404.WINBLUE_GDR.130913-2141 FILE: en_windows_8_1_enterprise_n_x86_dvd_2971850.iso SIZE: 2,799,603,712 byte SHA-1: C6305A615F8EEB2448575BD103847D0D8C067916 MD5: 395261F398A71D380683DAAEDF84A5BE CRC: 94088880 NOTE: this is original MSDN image. "N" version Windows 8.1 not include Windows Media Player. This ISO image included update rollup package Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 General Availability Update Rollupby WZT 10|17|13 MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.ENTERPRISE.N.RTM.X64.WITH.ROLLUP-1.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT magnet:?xt=urn:btih:AD6D771CD4C440177720DFEF6C4B9AF7D79F9EB3 RELEASE DATE: 10/17/2013 RTM BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623 ROLLUP UPDATE BUILD: 9600.16404.WINBLUE_GDR.130913-2141 FILE: en_windows_8_1_enterprise_n_x64_dvd_2971845.iso SIZE: 3,707,179,008 byte SHA-1: D3452AB72079859948316F403037F340CEB0FB66 MD5: CB4B2A1DB49C0DEDCD26ADA52181E51C CRC: 215DDF9F NOTE: this is original MSDN image. "N" version Windows 8.1 not include Windows Media Player. This ISO image included update rollup package Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 General Availability Update Rollupby WZT 10|17|13I have installed this " MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.ENTERPRISE.N.RTM.X86.WITH.ROLLUP-1.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT" and it's say it is EVALUATION COPY but it's activated and have license valid for 90 days. My question is how can I remove the evaluation and other watermarks. Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 I have installed this " MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.ENTERPRISE.N.RTM.X86.WITH.ROLLUP-1.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT" and it's say it is EVALUATION COPY but it's activated and have license valid for 90 days. My question is how can I remove the evaluation and other watermarks. Anybody?Why did you want to install 90 day evaluation edition instead of MSDN Edition you can easily activate permanently first place with this edition you will never activate as far as i know not even KMS activation possibly when and if available.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamBidyuT Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 21 October 2013 Download Links are up to date today posted on Page #1 >>>> november_ra1n ,Where is WINDOWS 8.1 MULTI (CORE+PRO) Retail x64/x86 ? :huh: Cause all of then are maximum N/VL Editions .... Waiting for Windows 8.1 Pro Retail x64 :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) 21 October 2013 Download Links are up to date today posted on Page #1 >>>>november_ra1n ,Where is WINDOWS 8.1 MULTI (CORE+PRO) Retail x64/x86 ? :huh: Cause all of then are maximum N/VL Editions .... Waiting for Windows 8.1 Pro Retail x64 :rolleyes:The reason its not any more with MSDN index as always used to be you can only download through MS store with valid Windows 8.1 Key i did download try to upload PBT they did not index it after 16 hours trying to upload there i have tried magnet side but no seed as i am not experience with magnet side.. I have asked help if someone has idea no one bother to come with suggestion therefore i still have DVD ISO 64 bit thats all lol.. Edited October 21, 2013 by november_ra1n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio56 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I have installed this " MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.ENTERPRISE.N.RTM.X86.WITH.ROLLUP-1.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT" and it's say it is EVALUATION COPY but it's activated and have license valid for 90 days. My question is how can I remove the evaluation and other watermarks. Anybody?Why did you want to install 90 day evaluation edition instead of MSDN Edition you can easily activate permanently first place with this edition you will never activate as far as i know not even KMS activation possibly when and if available.!Where can I find these MSDN edition?..... please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkey-girl Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) scorpio56Go here and find :)Where can I find these MSDN edition?..... please.Use the eyes and look up in post 49 and click at link in november_1n post or go to page one in this thread and scroll down.If you also can go herehttp://www.nsaneforums.com/topic/183846-windows-81-build-9600-rtm-download-links-permanent-activation-via-phone/ Edited October 21, 2013 by donkey-girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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