Windows 10 usage rises slightly, Edge still floundering

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Last month Windows 7 usage share went down in concert with the Windows 10 uptick

Credit: Eliot Phillips via Flickr

 

Windows usage numbers for January are in, and they aren't surprising.

 

Depending on whether you trust StatCounter's or NetMarketshare's numbers, Windows 10 usage in January was up 0.6 or 0.9 percentage points, respectively, compared to December. At the same time, Windows 7 usage decreased by 0.2 (see screenshot) or 1.1 percentage points, respectively.

 

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Of course, those numbers should be taken with several heaping teaspoons of salt. As I explained a couple of months ago, there are major faults in the companies' measurement methods. The best that can be said is that their numbers are more-or-less comparable when taken month to month.

 

The unexplained six-month bump in StatCounter’s “Unknown” operating system count seems to have leveled off again.

 

Meanwhile, the browser wars have turned into a mop-up operation, with Chrome far out ahead and increasing its lead. Month-to-month, Chrome saw increases of 0.7 (StatCounter) or 1.5 (NetMarketshare, screenshot) percentage points. Microsoft’s browsers continued to muddle along. According to StatCounter, Edge use increased 0.1 points, while NetMarketshare pegged it at 0.15 points. IE usage was up 0.3 per StatCounter, and down 1.1 points, according to NetMarketshare's measurements.

 

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I draw a couple of conclusions from these numbers. Windows 10 adoption, which stalled completely after the free upgrade disappeared in August, has resumed a very slow increase in usage. Windows 7 continues to run on roughly half of all PCs, although its use is slowly declining. And Microsoft’s browsers are getting trounced, with no improvement in sight.

 

The lack of movement doesn’t bode well for Microsoft’s Universal Windows Platform--the Windows Store apps that continue to underwhelm. As Mary Jo Foley reported in ZDNet, Microsoft seems to be betting on Universal apps to drive a distant-future operating system, “a simplified version of Windows 10 that will be able to run only Unified Windows Platform (UWP) apps installed from the Windows Store.“

 

With Windows 10 usage increasing at a snail’s pace and Edge barely registering on the meter, you have to wonder where Microsoft will come up with compelling UWP apps for this new “Windows 10 Cloud” operating system. Steve Ballmer has left the field, but his “Developers, developers, developers!” exhortation still resonates. Where have they all gone?

 

The discussion continues on the AskWoody Lounge.

 

Source: Windows 10 usage rises slightly, Edge still floundering (InfoWorld - Woody Leonhard)

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Any chart/graph that shows 7 above 10 is A - OK in my book, even though Microsoft is probably still laughing/trolling all the way to the bank regardless...

[steven36]

 

17 hours ago, banned said:

Any chart/graph that shows 7 above 10 is A - OK in my book, even though Microsoft is probably still laughing/trolling all the way to the bank regardless...

 

Microsoft is going to laugh all the  way too the bank regardless if they make windows  or not  they make most of there money from the cloud and office 365  they sell 365 for android and apple

 

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Though small in size, Azure has been growing at a breathtaking pace. Azure revenues have already quadrupled between Q1-15 and Q1-17, and if it continues this triple digit growth for another three quarters, then their revenues will have increased eightfold between Q1-15 and Q1-18, a short span of three years.

The huge advantage of such robust growth is that the more customers use Azure, the higher the probability of converting them for Microsoft’s SaaS product lineup. That includes their office productivity applications, as well as the business management software market that Microsoft is eyeing with Dynamics 365 and other cloud products.

 

http://1reddrop.com/2017/01/30/how-fast-microsoft-cloud-products-azure-office-365-growth/

 

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Microsoft reported financials for its fiscal second quarter today, posting earnings of $0.83 per share on $26.1 billion in revenue. Growth was led by its Office and cloud segments, which the company is betting on to fuel future growth.

Microsoft’s results compared with Wall Street’s forecast of $0.79 per share on revenue of $25.3 billion for the quarter. They were also slightly higher than the year-ago quarter, when Microsoft reported earnings of $0.78 per share on revenue of $25.7 billion.

While slightly higher than expected, its financials were met with a tempered reaction from investors.

Microsoft continues to see robust growth in its productivity and business processes segment, which is being led by the adoption of Office 365 by consumers and enterprises alike. That unit grew revenues 10 percent for the quarter to $7.4 billion.

The company is also betting big on cloud, particularly in the enterprise market where it competes with Amazon Web Services. That bet appears to be paying off, as Azure revenue increased 93 percent, with compute usage more than doubling for the quarter. It highlighted an annualized revenue run rate of $14 billion for its cloud business.

In recent quarters Microsoft has been breaking out the impact from different business segments, providing a more granular view of how each is doing. Here are the results from each major unit:

• Productivity and Business Processes (PBP), which includes Office, consumer Office, Dynamics and now LinkedIn, saw revenue increase 10 percent to $7.4 billion.
• Intelligent Cloud (IC), which includes service revenue and Enterprise Services, saw revenue increase 8 percent to $6.9 billion.
• More Personal Computing (MPC), which contains Windows, Devices, Gaming and Search, saw revenue decline 5 percent to $11.8 billion.

Also of note: Microsoft’s $26.2 billion acquisition of LinkedIn closed late in the fiscal second quarter. For the quarter, Microsoft reported that LinkedIn contributed $228 million in revenue and reduced EPS by $0.01.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/26/microsoft-q2-2017-earnings/

They  been losing money on Windows  every since 2013  so the market share growth  dont help them on  desktop ..You got too remember most Windows 10 users didn't  pay for windows it was a free upgrade  i got 2 pcs with windows 10 i got free and 1 with windows 7 that has free upgrade right too windows 10 even though i rolled it back. they dont make money from os like windows 7 and 8.1 that  they sell no more since Nov 2016 anymore . And if they make any money from free users of Windows 10 its from ads and data harvesting  . Windows is way down the list of Microsoft products  in 2017 its no longer there cash cow .

 

They made  14.3 billion on non windows things with huge profits , They made  11.8 billion on Windows, Devices, Gaming and Search  witch was  5 percent to the bad from last quarter. 

 

Back When Windows 7 was 1 year old they had sold  175 million licenses of Window 7

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/technology/23soft.html

 

 

Back when  Windows 10 was 1 year old they had gave away well over 200 million copies.

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-keeps-gaining-market-share-latest-global-os-install-numbers

See the difference free = no profits  

[namek]

Here it decreases.

2 hours ago, steven36 said:

 

 

Microsoft is going to laugh all the  way too the bank regardless if they make windows  or not  they make most of there money from the cloud and office 365  they sell 365 for android and apple

 

http://1reddrop.com/2017/01/30/how-fast-microsoft-cloud-products-azure-office-365-growth/

 

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/26/microsoft-q2-2017-earnings/

They  been losing money on Windows  every since 2013  so the market share growth  dont help them on  desktop ..You got too remember most Windows 10 users didn't  pay for windows it was a free upgrade  i got 2 pcs with windows 10 i got free and 1 with windows 7 that has free upgrade right too windows 10 even though i rolled it back. they dont make money from os like windows 7 and 8.1 that  they sell no more since Nov 2016 anymore . And if they make any money from free users of Windows 10 its from ads and data harvesting  . Windows is way down the list of Microsoft products  in 2017 its no longer there cash cow .

 

They made  14.3 billion on non windows things with huge profits , They made  11.8 billion on Windows, Devices, Gaming and Search  witch was  5 percent to the bad from last quarter. 

 

Back When Windows 7 was 1 year old they had sold  175 million licenses of Window 7

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/technology/23soft.html

 

 

Back when  Windows 10 was 1 year old they had gave away well over 200 million copies.

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-keeps-gaining-market-share-latest-global-os-install-numbers

See the difference free = no profits  

It's not free. They sell or try to sell a person who has it.

[pc71520]

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Edge still floundering...

Not surprising at all.

[steven36]

5 hours ago, namek said:

Here it decreases.

It's not free. They sell or try to sell a person who has it.

its free too me i uninstalled all that crap from the store and i  block everything bing and Microsoft calls out even live updates , Even if someone dont block it it didn't cost them nothing  out of there pocket . There is a difference between free proprietary software and open source , even if you use a open source OS if you install free proprietary software.  divers  , browsers  Java , Flash,  Codecs ,etc  they harvest data and it's more harder to block on Linux than on windows because of the way Linux Firewalls are made ...Whats a real shame even Firefox witch claims to be open source collects data  for Mozilla and Google  if you dont tweak the  settings in about config; 

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Proprietary Software Definition

Proprietary software is software that is owned by an individual or a company (usually the one that developed it). There are almost always major restrictions on its use, and its source code is almost always kept secret.

Source code is the form in which a program is originally written by a human using a programming language and prior to being converted to machine code which is directly readable by a computer's CPU (central processing unit). It is necessary to have the source code in order to be able to modify or improve a program.

Software that is not proprietary includes free software and public domain software. Free software, which is generally the same as open source software, is available at no cost to everyone, and it can be used by anyone for any purpose and with only very minimal restrictions.

These restrictions vary somewhat according to the license, but a typical requirement is that they include a copy of the original license. The most commonly used license, the GNU Public License (GPL), additionally requires that if a modified version of the software is distributed, the source code for such modified version must be made freely available. The best known example of software licensed under the GPL is Linux.

Public domain software is software that has been donated to the public domain by its copyright holder. Thus it is no longer copyrighted. Consequently, such software is completely free and can be used by anybody for any purpose without restriction.

Freeware, not to be confused with free software, is a type of proprietary software that is offered for use free of monetary charges. However, as is the case with other types of proprietary software, there are generally severe restrictions on its use and the source code is kept secret. Examples of freeware include Adobe's Acrobat Reader and Microsoft's Internet Explorer web browser.

The restrictions on the use of proprietary software are usually enumerated in the end user license agreements (EULAs) that users must consent to. For software provided by large companies, EULAs are generally long and complex contracts. Among the most common of the prohibitions for such programs are making unauthorized copies, using it on more than a certain number of computers and reverse engineering it.

Some Unix-like operating systems are also proprietary. Among the most popular are AIX (developed by IBM), HP-UX (developed by Hewlett-Packard), QNX (developed by QNX Software Systems) and Solaris (developed by Sun Microsystems). Others are free software, including Linux and the BSD systems (the most widely used of which is FreeBSD).

Virtually all Microsoft software is proprietary, including the Windows family of operating systems and Microsoft Office. This includes software that is given away at no charge, such as Internet Explorer. Other major producers of proprietary software include Adobe, Borland, IBM, Macromedia, Sun Microsystems and Oracle.

In the early days of computing, software was generally free, and it was something that was shared among researchers and developers, who were usually eager to improve it. However, that situation changed as computers became more common, and the production of proprietary software became an excellent business model for many companies. However, in recent years some companies have begun to realize that free software can also be highly profitable. The most outstanding example of this is IBM, which continues to reap high returns from its approximately one billion dollar investment in Linux.

Some industry observers think that the role of proprietary software will decrease in the future because of the growing competition from free software. This view holds that free software will eventually come to dominate operating systems and major application programs. Proprietary software will remain strong in some niche markets, mainly for business and technical applications for which the demand is relatively small or specialized and for which users will be willing to pay relatively high prices.

The term proprietary is derived from the Latin word proprietas meaning property.

 

http://www.linfo.org/proprietary.html

I use open source apps on windows that Linux dont even have  and I use some  that Linux  has that works better on windows also i have many apps witch are not free that Linux dont have and i cant find good enough alternatives on Linux .I'm sorry but I'm not going to use a OS and take away my choices  just to  be a true Open Source computer  geek  , I still have Linux on both my pcs  but it dont have no real advantages over windows  besides its free to modify legally but  that never stop me on windows before to tweak it too my liking. .If  someone would  make a open source os that worked  for all my programs i would be glad to switch 100% but that's just not reality .  

 

i got really lazy  here lately and stay on windows most of the time because it just works for what i like too do  lol  i still need too turn my Dell on witch i've not done in months and update my Linux OS and Windows 10  maybe ill get around too it by the time 14th rolls around . I been enjoying  watching  movies and listening  to music ..What good is a computer  if  you spend every day working on it  ?

[namek]

On 2017-02-02 at 10:41 PM, steven36 said:

its free too me i uninstalled all that crap from the store and i  block everything bing and Microsoft calls out even live updates , Even if someone dont block it it didn't cost them nothing  out of there pocket . There is a difference between free proprietary software and open source , even if you use a open source OS if you install free proprietary software.  divers  , browsers  Java , Flash,  Codecs ,etc  they harvest data and it's more harder to block on Linux than on windows because of the way Linux Firewalls are made ...Whats a real shame even Firefox witch claims to be open source collects data  for Mozilla and Google  if you dont tweak the  settings in about config; 

http://www.linfo.org/proprietary.html

I use open source apps on windows that Linux dont even have  and I use some  that Linux  has that works better on windows also i have many apps witch are not free that Linux dont have and i cant find good enough alternatives on Linux .I'm sorry but I'm not going to use a OS and take away my choices  just to  be a true Open Source computer  geek  , I still have Linux on both my pcs  but it dont have no real advantages over windows  besides its free to modify legally but  that never stop me on windows before to tweak it too my liking. .If  someone would  make a open source os that worked  for all my programs i would be glad to switch 100% but that's just not reality .  

 

i got really lazy  here lately and stay on windows most of the time because it just works for what i like too do  lol  i still need too turn my Dell on witch i've not done in months and update my Linux OS and Windows 10  maybe ill get around too it by the time 14th rolls around . I been enjoying  watching  movies and listening  to music ..What good is a computer  if  you spend every day working on it  ?

 

For You and me Your statement is valid, but we are the minority. I'm still on 7, because I actually hate an UI of Windows 10 and it's counter-productive to me. I will switch to some Linux distro one day soon, but your last paragraph answers a question "Why I haven't done it earlier" perfectly. And the File System on linux is...don't get me started on that...

 

The security and privacy of blocking everything we see is still questionable, a lot of things can and will slide through. I still try to do my best to keep everything secure, but I don't think it's enough. I decided to use Cyberfox instead of Firefox when one user offered in comments section of Waterfox. Never looked back again. And after webextentions nonsense I don't even know what I'll do.

The last encounter of a shitty firewalling was on Android, when I found that stupid things like same GUID for multiple processes exists. I hope it's handled different on different distros. Never did any research on that.