vissha Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Windows 10 A Failure By Microsoft's Own Metric – It Won't Hit One Billion Devices By Mid-2018 All that nagware hasn't worked When Windows 10 launched, Microsoft claimed it would have the new operating system on a billion devices by mid-2018. That isn't going to happen, however, Redmond has now admitted. For the past year, Microsoft has offered the new OS as a free upgrade for both desktop and mobile users (provided the phone can handle it in the latter case), and has been pushing it for Internet of Things makers. However, so far the OS is only on 350 million monthly active devices, and Redmond says it needs more time to hit ten figures. "We're pleased with our progress to date, but due to the focusing of our phone hardware business, it will take longer than FY18 [the year to July 2018] for us to reach our goal of one billion monthly active devices," a spokeswoman told The Reg. "In the year ahead, we are excited about usage growth coming from commercial deployments and new devices – and increasing customer delight with Windows." The admission shows that the persistent nagware on PCs for users of Windows 7 and 8.1 hasn't worked, despite Microsoft attempting some fairly underhanded tactics to get people to upgrade, and may have soured some on the OS. Enterprises, which were thought to be big believers in the new operating system, have also been unimpressed. Sure, there are pilot programs running in many companies, but IT managers have shown little willingness to do a mass upgrade when earlier operating systems are still working well. The other failure point is with Microsoft's mobile strategy, or lack of one these days. Windows Phone sales are cratering, it's not a popular OS with vendors, and although Microsoft says it is still developing the platform, their OS is short on apps and customers. Microsoft can expect an upsurge in Windows 10 installations from PC users toward the end of the month, when the free upgrade offer ends. But with PC sales disappointing, mobile users a dying breed, and enterprise not biting yet, it's clear Microsoft will need longer than two years to hit the billion mark. 2020 perhaps? Source Alternate Source - ZDNet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Now there's a surprise... perhaps if they'd marketed it in ethical ways, more may have upgraded. No apology of course, let's blame it on... throw dart at business-speak dartboard... "focusing of our phone hardware business", whatever that means. One wonders how the number of Windows 10 devices compares with GWX Control Panel or Never10 users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 It's not rocket science the masses will wait tell like 2019 to upgrade the year before windows 7 runs out of updates like when on windows XP 2013-2014...expecting a billion people to use a new O/S when old ones are still getting updates is just dreaming most people don't buy windows no way they buy PCs with windows on them . Microsoft gets paid from the computer vendor mostly , The reason Windows done good in the past was because people were buying computers back when windows 7 came out . No one has bought much since windows 8 came out and it had such a low market to begin with the few that upgraded from it for free didn't make a dent IDC- Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory has been wrong for years because it's a theory and not based on actual facts . They been getting it wrong for years and even if what they keep claiming ever happens witch has not yet, that PCs will have a recovery , even the IDC says it's going to be a small one Microsoft will never get back what they lost since 2013 on windows. That's why Windows 10 will cost 2 times as much as windows 7 did and Enterprise it will be a monthly fee . Phones and the economy have put a hurting on people buying computers . They done lost billions on fooling with windows phones and they done lost lots on windows 8 and really no one wants to buy a hybrid O/S that uses windows phone apps they want Windows designed like Windows. Most people never installed windows in there life but us computer geeks and you cant teach a old dog new tricks . My Mom will wait tell her PC bites the dust or the year 2020 before she moves from Windows 7 witch ever comes 1st. And she could buy a new PC anytime she wanted she has money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 the masses of computer users will flock to windows 10 there is no other viable option.... Linux would have owned the market if half as good as Linux lovers claim it to be.... that ain't gonna happen either...where Microsoft erred was thinking they had a platform smartphone users would flock to.... it ain't gonna happen ... android owns the smartphone market because they have a fantastic platform that everyone loves ....and this is something Samsung needs to totally rethink as they too have publicly stated they will ship phones soon with THEIR Samsung operating system... their phone sales will fall into the same crater that the windows phone is in so deep it will never get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, dMog said: the masses of computer users will flock to windows 10 there is no other viable option.... Linux would have owned the market if half as good as Linux lovers claim it to be.... that ain't gonna happen either...where Microsoft erred was thinking they had a platform smartphone users would flock to.... it ain't gonna happen ... android owns the smartphone market because they have a fantastic platform that everyone loves ....and this is something Samsung needs to totally rethink as they too have publicly stated they will ship phones soon with THEIR Samsung operating system... their phone sales will fall into the same crater that the windows phone is in so deep it will never get out Tell 2020 when windows 7 runs out of updates there's still a option. That's still years away and we have no idea what the economy will be like in 2020 or even if windows 10 will have lost them so much money by then, that the make a new version of windows like they always have for the last 40 years.. I know one thing by 2020 even they decide to keep making Windows 10 witch its posted there not going keep making it . you will get no more new upgrades to it for free after 2020. So don't take nothing for granted that Windows 10 is Windows X . It's in the media it is. but Microsoft's site says end of updates is 2025 for windows 10 .Even if they do keep making windows 10 by 2020 you will need to buy it again to keep getting major upgrades and they could cut you're upgrades off at anytime because they still make updates for older versions of windows 10 as well . . And we don't even know how many people at home will still be on these old dinosaurs in 2020 still even . So while what you say is possible its also its possible PCs will lose most of it's popularity by 2020 . So what you say is based on theory and not on actual facts . No one can see what the future holds . Last time i looked at the market there's already more people on phones than even windows 7 . there's over 3 billion plus users and growing every year on the internet and only 1,5 billion on a flavor of windows . Even windows 10 usage increases a lot in some places just on weekends and during the week it goes way down that tells me most people don't go out of there way to come home after work and turn there PC on.. they be using phones instead 5 days a week and maybe get on windows 1 or 2 days a week. They are exceptions. some of us don't have smart phones or we like PCs more ..but that's not very many people anymore . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 21 hours ago, steven36 said: It's not rocket science the masses will wait tell like 2019 to upgrade the year before windows 7 runs out of updates 20 hours ago, dMog said: the masses of computer users will flock to windows 10 there is no other viable option Actually it doesn't make any difference if Microsoft supports an OS or not any more. We still have systems running Windows 95, 98SE, and XP because the scientific or robotic hardware they run will not work on a newer OS than that for which it was designed. Why should I care if Microsoft supports anything, they do a lousy job anyway. I don't run Microsoft updates any more, they are useless. I don't need them to secure my computer and they do more damage than good. It has already been decided we will not upgrade to Windows 10, that decision was made before they ever released the OS last year. We skip every other version of Windows. We test, we just don't upgrade, and the test has always proved out our decision to skip a release. We skipped 98, Me, 2000, Vista, 8, and now 10. Our computers are still coming with Windows 7 on them, and we have a volume license for Windows 8.1. As far as the phone OS goes, Microsoft lost that battle 15 years ago, they just don't know when to quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 35 minutes ago, straycat19 said: Actually it doesn't make any difference if Microsoft supports an OS or not any more. We still have systems running Windows 95, 98SE, and XP because the scientific or robotic hardware they run will not work on a newer OS than that for which it was designed. Why should I care if Microsoft supports anything, they do a lousy job anyway. I don't run Microsoft updates any more, they are useless. I don't need them to secure my computer and they do more damage than good. It has already been decided we will not upgrade to Windows 10, that decision was made before they ever released the OS last year. We skip every other version of Windows. We test, we just don't upgrade, and the test has always proved out our decision to skip a release. We skipped 98, Me, 2000, Vista, 8, and now 10. Our computers are still coming with Windows 7 on them, and we have a volume license for Windows 8.1. As far as the phone OS goes, Microsoft lost that battle 15 years ago, they just don't know when to quit. if you don't install Microsoft updates your PC won't be any safer what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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