Windows 10 is extremely popular among gamers

[Batu69]

Windows 10 appears to be making good progress as, in January, it overtook Windows 8.1 in terms of usage share. Its lead varies, but no matter which web analytics resource you choose to go by, the new operating system is still very close to its predecessor at this time. Meanwhile, the gap between it and Windows 7, while no doubt getting smaller, is shrinking at a very slow pace.

 

The difference in usage share, when looking at NetMarketShare's and StatCounter's numbers, comes from the fact that both analytics companies sort through web traffic. But, if we look at how all the major Windows releases fare on the popular gaming platform Steam, things are very different -- Windows 10 comes quite close to Windows 7, which may surprise many.

 

Steam's numbers for January 2016 place Windows at a combined usage share of 95.39 percent for all the major versions, with OS X releases taking 3.55 percent and Linux the remaining 0.95 percent usage share. On the gaming platform, the majority of Windows users are rocking Windows 7, which has a combined usage share of 42.08 percent, for the 64-bit and 32-bit versions. Windows 10 is not that far off however, as the 64-bit and 32-bit versions are used by 34.05 percent of Steam users, which represents a huge increase over what both NetMarketShare and StatCounter reported yesterday.

 

Windows 8.1, the 64-bit and 32-bit versions, has a usage share of 14.43 percent, while its predecessor, Windows 8, is placed at 2.06 percent. Windows Vista is at 0.42 percent, while Windows XP comes just above Windows 8 with 2.31 percent usage share.

 

Steam's numbers show that Windows 10 has increased its lead over other Windows releases by a combined 1.59 percent compared to the previous month. The gains come mostly from Windows 7 64-bit and Windows 8.1 64-bit, which are preferred by gamers over their 32-bit counterparts.

 

What does this all mean? For one, it shows that gamers represent a group of Windows users who are more eager and willing to embrace a newer Windows release. Windows 10's performance is quite impressive if we consider that it was only launched six months ago. It would not be surprising to see it overtaking Windows 7 soon.

 

Gamers also typically upgrade their PCs much more often than the casual Windows users, and when that time comes it is much easier to also slap on a newer operating system. Not to mention that top-tier hardware is also typically well supported on newer versions of Windows. Gamers are also more likely to be early adopters, the users you are most likely to see toting the latest and greatest in terms of hardware and software.

 

When looking at the PC market as a whole, Windows 10's performance is a bit "meh". Realistically speaking, that is to be expected because the average user, as long as things work, will not bother making the jump to something new and unknown. People are also used to getting the latest version of Windows 10 when they get new hardware anyway because, in the past, it made little sense to spend hundreds of dollars on upgrades. I would not be surprised to hear that most users have no idea that Windows 10 is even offered as a free upgrade from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

 

Given time, things will change, but for the moment we have to keep in mind the fact that the Windows crowd as a whole is very conservative. Newer versions of Windows take a very long time before they reach critical mass. Steam's numbers may not be representative for the Windows market, but they do suggest that Windows 10 has what it takes to gain significant traction going forward. It has made good progress since the last time we covered Steam's numbers too.

 

Microsoft is being pushy about the new OS, seemingly going out of its way to get more and more users to install Windows 10, whether they want it or not. It will be interesting to see if the new operating system will indeed reach Microsoft's goal of being installed on a billion devices in the first to three years of availability, but, right now, things are looking good. The latest official numbers place Windows 10 on more than 200 million devices.

 

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[steven36]

48 minutes ago, Batu69 said:

Newer versions of Windows take a very long time before they reach critical mass

LOL,  the only reason  this version dont reach the masses.. is if they simply  refuse to update i been using windows  a long  time  I tried all versions Windows 95 - Windows 10 and windows 10 was the only  new windows version  you could download via live updates.  SP  they would  offer you  but never a new O/S   

 

If  its so popular  with gamers why  does it  only  have  a 11.85%  marketshare  does this  mean gamers are only 5 or 6 %  of pc users ? 

[Sylence]

1 hour ago, steven36 said:

LOL,  the only reason  this version dont reach the masses.. is if they simply  refuse to update i been using windows  a long  time  I tried all versions Windows 95 - Windows 10 and windows 10 was the only  new windows version  you could download via live updates.  SP  they would  offer you  but never a new O/S   

 

If  its so popular  with gamers why  does it  only  have  a 11.85%  marketshare  does this  mean gamers are only 5 or 6 %  of pc users ? 

 

You sir are an anti-Windows 10 person. period 

[steven36]

12 minutes ago, saeed_dc said:

 

You sir are an anti-Windows 10 person. period 

LOL, that still dont answer my question..  my  personal preferences  dont have nothing to do with it.. i dont care if you use windows 10 as long i dont have too . But how does something be popular among  a group of select users of something that's only 11.85%  O/S user base? Something stinks sounds like M$ PR too me.

[heyyahblah]

He's not anti-windows 10, he just wants an operating system that works and isn't full of fucking bugs. Right now the most stable O/S for gaming and drivers and overall system stability is Windows 7 or Windows 8.1. On those 2 O/Ses I have no issues as all drivers and software are up and running without a problem.

 

I also have Windows 10 PRO as I took the free updates, finally after months of testing and TH1, I managed to get W10 to run properly. By installing the right drivers, spending time customizing it and getting rid of all the spying non-sense via 3rd party apps to disable all this shit. Not to mention the uninstalling of forced and unwanted apps on the machine. Messagers, Phone, People, Xbox, all this bloatware garbage I do not need in an O/S. Took me about 3 hours to get it the way I like it.

 

Now once in a while when I boot to desktop I get a freeze right on start up. I am currently testing this as I believe it is an issue with ESET Smart Security v9. So far its the only A/V I have installed. 3 formats, 3 versions of ESS v9 and I get random lock ups on the desktop upon boot which forces me to hold power down and do a cold boot because the system freezes and becomes unresponsive. I am still testing to determine this is the culprit because now after my 4th install this is the only piece of added software (besides Winrar, Chrome and Firefox) that I have installed. All making restore points along the way.

 

If I remove the anti-virus after more testing, then I hope thats the problem and I can blame it on ESS V9 as the lock-ups in W10. However, if I remove it and the lockups continue, well then I know its the fucking operating system being a buggy cunt and freezing on me for no reason. I must say I am getting pretty sick and tired of this constant formats and writes to my SSD to figure out what the problem in W10 is. I don't have this lockup problem with my hardware on W7 and W8.1 and yes I am using W10 drivers, I am not a n00b. I know what I'm doing, I make my own builds.

 

So far this O/S is still a fucking beta in my eyes, a useless piece of shit. Hybrid control panel/settings menu, its not finished. IMO they should have waited until REDSTONE 10.1 July 2016 release and then release the fucking thing. Not have it out in a rush while its still a BETA and BUGGY O/S.

 

So I will cross my fingers and hope NOD32 is the culprit here with WINDOWS 10 random lockups for no reason. If I remove it and it works I will contact ESET and say hey, we've got a problem. But if I continue to have random freezes after that, whilst I use W10 drivers for my hardware, then I know its the O/S being a useless BUGGY cunt.

 

Because on the same machine Windows 7 and 8.1 doesn't have this problem. Only W10 for some reason likes to lock up randomly right upon boot when ESET is loading. Now either its a timing issue, or that software doesn't like W10 yet. Only more testing and time will tell what is up.

 

So back to the original question at hand, its not that @steven36 hates W10, its just he doesn't want to put a buggy O/S on his computer when it still runs like shit if he has a W7 or W8.1 machine that is running perfectly for his gaming or computing needs. Why bother the upgrade and foo-bar his system if its working perfectly?

 

They can take that forced update and shove it up their ass. And I hate the change they are planning in W10 redstone concept. They want to kill Explorer w/ Ribbion bar (introduced in 8.1) which I think is amazing, and change it to that settings modern UI bullshit so its "easier for tablets" and that's pissing me off. Nothing is wrong with explorer window.

 

So if your on 10 get a chance to report this to keep the ribbon bar, M/S is doing a good job pissing me off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[steven36]

I used Windows 10 for like 4 months  so if  I'm anti Windows 10 ..Its  Microsoft's and  Windows 10  fault.. a lot  people didn't like Windows 8.1 and I think its works fine . Tell Windows 10 came out i never had a problem  with new versions  of windows I miss the good old days were you could read about how  windows could be activated .. now mostly all  you read about is how to block spyware  out of it and Microsoft trying to brainwash people into thanking something  with a low marketshare is doing good  like they did when win 8 was new... dont people ever get tired of them not telling the truth? 

[ASIO]

1 hour ago, steven36 said:

I used Windows 10 for like 4 months  so if  I'm anti Windows 10 ..Its  Microsoft's and  Windows 10  fault.. a lot  people didn't like Windows 8.1 and I think its works fine . Tell Windows 10 came out i never had a problem  with new versions  of windows I miss the good old days were you could read about how  windows could be activated .. now mostly all  you read about is how to block spyware  out of it and Microsoft trying to brainwash people into thanking something  with a low marketshare is doing good  like they did when win 8 was new... dont people ever get tired of them not telling the truth? 

their are some people who really buy Microsoft's products

[steven36]

15 minutes ago, ASIO said:

their are some people who really buy Microsoft's products

I know this,  because I never pirate windows  i only read the topics . I bought  every version except for what  they gave me free ,,windows 7 for buying vista  and they gave me windows 10 witch i dont use anymore. I'm on a pretty new DELL  now only like 4mths old i bought new with Win 8.1.

 

[Holmes]

That windows ten video concept was just that a video concept they arent affiliated with microsoft the designer made a video of what he thinks windows ten redstone is going to look like.  I want file explorer to have tabbed browsing and it would be nice to have internet explorer maybe in the future and microsoft edge have tab history.  I sometimes exit out of tabs and forget what I was looking at and have to look at history and I can do that i think tab history would be nice.  If windows ten is not yet popular with gamers its going to be all of my gamer friends all looking forward to the new directx.

[steven36]

2 hours ago, Holmes said:

If windows ten is not yet popular with gamers its going to be all of my gamer friends all looking forward to the new directx.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Holmes said:

It doesnt help that fact that the thread title is click-bait the source is to darn click-bait writers.

 

This  topic  is just as much click-bait as that other topic.

 

Posting something that's opinion of some Linux users  and posting something that's not true at all.  like posting  something is popular among  a group of select users of something that's only 11.85%  O/S marketshare  witch is scientifically and mathematically impossible is about the same thing . Unless  gamers only make up 5% or 6% of all PC O/S users out there  it simply isn't  so. . Windows 10 needs  a 41 % gain  to become the most popular O/S . Now if they were halfway  there  like 22%  maybe  it would  be so  . but could of , should  of, would of  dont  count ..it may count a few years from now.. but not in the here and now.

 

Windows XP   has almost  as much O/S marketshare as Windows 10 and its not had updates  in a long time  and still Windows 8x  has more users than Windows 10  .

 

[Holmes]

They make up alot not just five or six percent that article is wrong.

[steven36]

2 hours ago, Holmes said:

They make up alot not just five or six percent that article is wrong.

Considering  there's only just  Over 125 million active steam users

http://www.vg247.com/2015/02/24/steam-has-over-125-million-active-users-8-9m-concurrent-peak/

there's  over like 1.5 billion windows O/S  users not counting other O/S

http://www.businessinsider.com/right-now-there-are-125-billion-windows-pcs-worldwide-2011-12?IR=T

 

There's over 3 billion  people on the internet all devices

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

 

Maybe they are just 5% or 6% of all PC O/S users that game and thats why windows 10 is not doing so good

[Laysson]

Cause most gamers are dumb and got on the Directx 12 hype train.

[steven36]

4 minutes ago, Laysson said:

Cause most gamers are dumb and got the Directx 12 hype.

When i used windows  10  my PC i bought back in like 2013  came with  windows 8  my processor didn't  support nothing newer then DX  11 meaning many people that use Win10 the ones that do dont have DX 12 no ways unless  they buy new Hardware  . The only  other thing useful that came with windows  10 was a start menu  witch a lot of the Windows 10 users don't like it and are using replacements.

 

The reason  Windows 8 did not sell good was gui related and  was easy fixable  by adding  a start menu  and changing the settings too start up on desktop . Its more stable  than Windows  10  and dont have a long list of stuff  that  makes it  undesirable . Windows 10 has a catalog  of things that  makes it  undesirable.  If only 2 fixable things made Windows 8x  not sell  good how do they  expect to ever  make a success out something with a catalog  of things wrong with it . I tell you how.. they are trying to force it on  everyone.  Even if it did take over Windows 7  marketshare  it didn't do shit . Because comparing free to paid is like comparing  apples to oranges . And so far they not really been successful at giving it away 

 

 

[Holmes]

Thats steam users there are games that arent on steam those figures are inaccurate.  Ill consider that your opinion laysson lets see what the figures are going to be when redstone comes out.

[steven36]

23 minutes ago, Holmes said:

Thats steam users there are games that arent on steam those figures are inaccurate.  Ill consider that your opinion laysson lets see what the figures are going to be when redstone comes out.

This topic  is comparing Steam users though not retro games  that you can even play on  XP 

 

I can play many old games on Linux even steam  has a 100 pages of games for Linux even

http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/

 

But im not interested in buying games  for PC i buy them for  PS4 

 

Only thing redstone is going to do  is cause Microsoft  to want to give it away free again for another year because they dont  have enough users . I hope  its not i hope it goes shareware like other windows  and it becomes  a statistic like windows 8x .

[Holmes]

I know that and there are games that are played by gamers not on steam and thats why that is not one hundred percent accurate thats all Im saying.

[steven36]

24 minutes ago, Holmes said:

I know that and there are games that are played by gamers not on steam and thats why that is not one hundred percent accurate thats all Im saying.

 

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Gaming performance on Windows 10: a whole lot like Windows 8.1

 

Beyond the introduction of DirectX 12, gaming on Windows 10 isn’t much different than gaming on Windows 8. And when it comes to raw performance, it’s not so different than gaming on Windows 7, either.

Our colleagues at Maximum PC benchmarked Batman: Arkham City, Tomb Raider, and Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor on Windows 7, 8.1 and 10, as well as 3DMark FireStrike Ultra. Their system? An Intel Core i7-5930K, Nvidia GTX 980 Ti, 16GB DDR4 RAM and an M.2 Kingston HyperX Predator 480GB SSD.

 

Look around the web, and you’ll likely find reports of big performance bumps moving from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10, and just as many reports of framerates dropping. Performance will obviously vary game-to-game, and all sorts of factors could be causing those performance differences: driver upgrades, different background tasks eating up CPU cycles, and so on. Overall, Windows 10 isn’t going to change pure performance much. Now let’s talk about compatibility.

Windows 10 and compatibility

Every new Windows release runs the risk of breaking compatibility with the classic games of the 80s and 90s and even the last decade. Thankfully, today we have services like GOG working to upkeep a library of classic games and ensure that they install and launch correctly on modern Windows. You can usually get those same games to work yourself through DOSBox, but GOG takes care of all the fiddling.

 

On July 29, when Windows 10 was released, GOG posted about its compatibility: “Overall, the entire process went better than expected. We're very happy with that fact, but we're still only getting started. Today, roughly 85% of our library is labeled as compatible with Windows 10. These games were fully playable with no significant performance or graphical issues during our testing process and are ready to go right now. You can filter through Windows 10 games in our catalog, and the compatibility will be labeled on every game card.”

 

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-verdict-is-in-on-windows-10-gaming-performance-compatibility/

 

This means  there's not  a whole lot of improvement by upgrading to DX 12  and like 15%  of you're  old games you going need and old O/S  to play them even

 

When i read this  and i was a windows gamer  its no big incentive  to upgrade  my Windows version and hardware .

 

And if windows 10  plains  to do like mac and keep making  the  same o/s name  with o/s upgrades 5 years from now most all old hardware  will longer be compatible with it  .

[Holmes]

From what I read its very good in gaming performance and Ill be testing this myself when I install windows ten again.  If you can get office ninety five to install and run on windows ten (you can I saw a video of it) you can get anything really to install and run on windows ten.  I look forward to playing my older games on windows ten and if they have trouble installing or running thats what compatibility mode is for.

[steven36]

40 minutes ago, Holmes said:

I look forward to playing my older games on windows ten and if they have trouble installing or running thats what compatibility mode is for.

Do you even have Windows 10 or tired  it before ?  Because in other topics about  how to prevent get windows 10 updates  in Windows 7 and and Windows 8.1 you say you use GWX Control Paneland speak highly of it . If you're such a fan of Windows 10 why not just update to it ? If i wanted  it id do the update of it now i have the ISO  since July and tired  it and decided is was not worth it. Before you can have a opinion about something  you need to at least have tested it 1st.   No offense  but you seem to be pro Microsoft  and you confuse me .

[Holmes]

I tested it for months in a vm I had to stop my hard drive was filling up and I have to free hard drive space to use it again I really enjoyed it just because I used GWX control panel doesnt mean I dislike the operating system.  Im pro gaming and directx not pro microsoft.    Technically you can have a opinion in general without having any information at all its called free speech I sound like Im repeating myself with you with the free speech part.  DO you get to decide who does and who doesnt get free speech i can answer that for you you dont.  If you dont like windows ten and are not a gamer fine to each is own your not going to influence users to think the way you do stop trying you do what you want to do thats fine with me.  There are not alot of games or hardware available to support directx yet the difference between directx eleven what windows eight has and directx twelve what windows ten has is with directx eleven it used one core if you had additional cores it didnt use them now with directx twelve directx twelve uses all cores simultaneously that is why gaming performance on directx twelve is better and why gaming performance on windows ten is better.  Check this article out:

 

http://time.com/3975043/windows-10-microsoft-gamers/

 

Gets in depth with directx and its gaming performance.

[steven36]

7 minutes ago, Holmes said:

Technically you can have a opinion in general without having any information at all its called free speech I sound like Im repeating myself with you with the free speech part.

Yes  i think  free speech is great but  tell you  really  have tested games  witch you want be doing in VM its will remain and opinion and that's all.   when gaming sites says  that have tested it in real time vs windows 8.1 and say there's not much difference and they have  real proof  . Ill take proof over opinion and M$ PR  any day.

[Holmes]

True I cant test games in a vm i cant access directx with a virtual video card through a virtual machine I plan on replacing my windows eight with windows ten and then Ill test it out then.  You cant have a performance test directx eleven vs directx twelve where eleven comes out ahead those tests much not been done with directx twelve (if they were something is wrong) if the video card doesnt support directx twelve windows ten is going to make the video card use eleven.

[steven36]

34 minutes ago, Holmes said:

those tests much not been done with directx twelve if the video card doesnt support directx twelve windows ten is going to make the video card use eleven.

They already said what it tested with Intel Core i7-5930K and Nvidia GTX 980 both  updates to DX 12  with windows 10  .

http://www.maximumpc.com/windows-10-but-what-about-performance/

 

But the big  problem is people who use windows 10 for gaming are being watched closely by M$  one the main reasons its not worth upgrading they know everything people do.
 

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Gaming continues to grow on Windows 10 – in 2015, gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games on Windows 10.

Gamers have streamed more than 6.6 million hours of Xbox One games to Windows 10 PCs.

 

It’s easy to see why this bothers some people. It’s not just that Microsoft is monitoring how many people have installed its new operating system. It’s also tracking how much people use Edge (or, presumably, other browsers), how often they use Cortana, when they game, and which installed applications they run. It also knows if you stream a title from your Xbox One to your PC, though the data actually suggests this is a fairly niche feature, given the Xbox One’s install base.

 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/220588-new-windows-10-stats-show-microsoft-is-closely-watching-you-but-is-it-an-issue

 

 

[Holmes]

Thats one benchmark test I would like to see additional benchmark test's.  I want to compare test's and get results that way I dont want to rely on one test.