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I wonder, does Winamp use it's own codec? I want to use FFDShow with it. I haven't tried it after I started using FFDShow.

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Winamp runs its own.. and even with K-Lite Full installed... some other applications, transcoders, servers have to have separate codecs in specific folders to be used.. many codecs available at their main site.. but for the most part everything is there in Pro..

( I rip out the ..*pmp* of the plugins because they are so annoying and for whatever reason were causing crashes with the last version.. I have no need for them anyway.. and ml_devices.dll.. uninstall just doesn't do it for me.. LOL)

List of recommended Plugins:

  • Low-Latency Wave-Out Plugin 1.1( Fastwave )

  • Advanced Visualization Studio 2.81b

  • Winamp Essentials Pack

  • Winamp Icon Packs

  • DeciSoft Equalizer

  • AlbumArt

  • Windows 7 Taskbar Integration

  • Ligos Indeo Codec ( AVS Processing )

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Thanks, jalaffa! My favorite media player since the year 2000, :)

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List of recommended Plugins:

  • Low-Latency Wave-Out Plugin 1.1( Fastwave )

  • Advanced Visualization Studio 2.81b

  • Winamp Essentials Pack

  • Winamp Icon Packs

  • DeciSoft Equalizer

  • AlbumArt

  • Windows 7 Taskbar Integration

  • Ligos Indeo Codec ( AVS Processing )

Thanks for the list, found all of them, except for the AVS 2.81b, but apperently, it is already integrated into Winamp, just like the AlbumArt. :)

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Actually neither are.. Album Art is actually an add-on which allows other programs like Rainmeter to get and use coverart as well.. so part of your Rainmeter config can control and show information from Winamp.. in a skin or format that works with the rest of it.. Album Art v0.85 [gen_classicart.dll] by Will Fisher updates by Dr0.. here

Not for sure which AVS BUT.. I found using three different Codec Packs.. that when you try to edit or view AVS in Windows 7.. part of the Visualization is dead.. or has something missing..One in particular got my attention one day.. SO.. I did some digging into the file and found that it requires.. sometimes because its very old.. the Ligos Indeo Codec ( run a search for it available though ) to be installed in the system..to be able to process and use the small AVI files that can be a part of it.. I can play them normally now and see the AVS correctly... ( to be able to process the avi's used...and not mess with any other video processing )

The Visualization Studio 2.81b is found in the Winamp AVS Forum.. you may have to look for it.. but it was designed with bigger interface for editing.. and some extra stuff by the AVS heads themselves.. not the guys in the Dev department ( who I sometimes think may want it to go away all together).. so it actually will do some of your Fav AVS.. that the new version may have actually killed.. they sit there and do nothing at all or they do not act as intended.. I have a huge collection I am still currently working on.. but something I think I will be able to enjoy more on a better system.. BUT I get better performance.. and smoother results with my crappy little computer with it.. much better even on system resources )..

AND as advise.. be careful about those add-on and plugins.. really bog Winamp down if your not careful.. sometimes its down to the settings and preferences.. :thumbsup:

EDIT: Those updated icons are just great.. I use the Black ones... works right in to Windows 7 .. and out of Windows NT.. :w00t: ( I have some recommended Skins as well.. but .. it would look like a Tor connection trying to get them all )

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Somethings odd. I removed MP3 from MPEG4 Audio plugin and added it to Directshow plugin. But now it doesn't play MP3s anymore. :unsure:

Well, I have disabled Microsoft DMO (direct media object) from Win7DSTweaker, so that I can play files in WMP with FFDShow. The bad side is, it doesn't show any visualization in audio files in WMP. Can it be that Winamp is not playing MP3s because of this?

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Somethings odd. I removed MP3 from MPEG4 Audio plugin and added it to Directshow plugin. But now it doesn't play MP3s anymore. :unsure:

Well, I have disabled Microsoft DMO (direct media object) from Win7DSTweaker, so that I can play files in WMP with FFDShow. The bad side is, it doesn't show any visualization in audio files in WMP. Can it be that Winamp is not playing MP3s because of this?

First things first.. check the screenie to verify you have all of this under Input Plugins... ( I am going this route since you said you removed things... ) From what I remember, Winamp uses its own.. and thats it.. You shouldn't really attempt to jack in other codecs.. For WInamp.. Though sometimes you wish the resource usage was lower.. I think there are some settings that can be tweaked to get it down and working as it should .. per system.. Are your Visualizations working Winamp or WMP12?

EDIT: Screenie cleaned.. :P

Did you change this setting to get better results or just to use the Codecs instead of Microsoft's? I always just simply add to the functionality.. one area I try to simply accentuate.. not replace... Anyway take a look and see what you don't have if anything.. May want to reset these areas to default... or reinstall the pack using Option 7.. I only change two things.. I uncheck going to the site when done.. and if its not already checked I check to reset to defaults.. THEN.. I choose to not create any file association and choose all files for thumbnail creation... I change nothing else..

EDIT: What device have you indicated to use for sound? Are you trying with WMP12's default Visualizations?

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I haven't removed anything. Just that MP3 was removed from MPEG Audio Decoder and added to DirectShow Decoder, it was mentioned in the guide I read via Google. Instead of using FFDShow now, it doesn't play it all. Think I should reinstall K-lite? I can be that it didn't detect WinAmp. :think:

EDIT: Moving MP3 back to MPEG Audio Decoder makes the mp3s play fine. But no FFDShow then. :(

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What is the difference in the two on your system?.. Is it used while your playing Movies?

What I would do is try resetting everything to defaults.. using the Codec Tweak Tool... See what issues you have.. ( possibly install Like I mentioned above.. ) and go from there.. Unless your getting issues.. or the quality is crap I would not really follow recommendations made by other people on different systems.. I would go with what works for yours.. Winamp.. as long as I have used it.. Never seemed to ever use anything but its own.. input and output plugins.. completely separate from the system..

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Well, Win7DSTweaker changes didn't help. So I guess I need to do something else to use FFDShow.

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Try an uninstall... Then .. reinstall.. advanced.. using Option 7 ( Lots of stuff ) Player is your choice.. and Choose to Reset all settings... then reboot.. and see if there is any change.. I would also make sure you don't have any other Codec Packagaes like Shark007 installed or anything..

EDIT: Also could try to 'Detect and Fix Broken Codecs' .. thing has worked miracles for me before..

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I have almost all the codecs installed in K-Lite. Tried everything. Maybe I need some plugin in Winamp to play using FFDShow, I'll look more into it later.

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Just one question.. why do you need the codec used in Winamp? It should be doing it regardless... if not something else is wrong.. could be in the Output area... Especially if they are playing on other players..

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Got it working. :)

When I had disabled DMO in Win7DSTweaker. It told me to go to FFDShow > Output > Connect to > Change it to Direct Sound (and uncheck S/PDIF) to avoid any playback problems.

Taking it back to Any Filter. And then going back to Winamp, moving the MP3 to DirectShow Decoder made it work.

So yeah, now I can use FFDShow in Winamp quite fine. Lets see if I can replace WMP with it. What's your recommendation for Audio/Video playing (which player is good)?

Well, FFDShow does gives some power of configuration and good sound. :)

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Well for the most part the only thing that WMP12 gets anymore is DivX encoded Videos..( But they are particular Vids that will not play correctly in MPC.. a few that seem to have been created in an odd fashion..) I use Splayer ( Though a little buggy and be high in resource usage - good options and transparency - kind of keeping in mind for later )and MPC-HC for most vids and DVD's.. Though WMP12 is not bad for Video/DVD.. and 12 is major improvement over the last version I had of it in XP.. Video can be played in Winamp.. but my system and Video Card is such crap that it uses 100% Resources.. and sort of craps out.. but had good rendering last time I checked... ( Corel WinDVD was always the crispest.. now I have to have a higher version DirectX.. which my hardware doesn't support )

ANYWAY.. LOL... I never really have to use WMP12.. but its still a good player.. Winamp works for what I need but I even strip some it down a little..but when I am playing music, Winamp is it..

Good you got it worked out.. I have never changed mine.. seems like I did something once.. but it ramped up usage and gave crappy performance.. been awhile back though.. it just worked and I never had issues.. so.. Like I said before.. K-Lite is only there to fill in the wholes.. and get the added stuff.. Windows 7 brought some things that were not there by default in XP for definite.. but even those sometimes need a little improvement.. sometimes for backward compatibility ..

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Well, I guess Winamp is not mine. My Play/Pause button on the keyboard doesn't work. :(

These are my needs:

  1. Play/Pause button working in the mediaplayer.
  2. Volume buttons on the keyboard only changing the system's volume and not the player's. MPCHC has this problem, when opened, it vol ups/downs of the player, when minimized, it up/downs the system's.
  3. Has a sound spectrum visualization or bars.
  4. Works with FFDShow.

1,2 and 4 works in WMP. Only the 3, because the DMO is disabled, it doesn't output any sound spectrum. :frusty:

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Are you talking about your Media Keys on your Keyboard?.. They should have a plugin for that at the main site.. and it may also be that you need to configure them to be used with the player.. should be easy enough.. I could do it with an old HP Keyboard years ago..

Shortcut Keys are different for Winamp..Completely BTW.. for instance focus the main window.. use the arrow keys.. if that isn't working you may need to change a setting..

If your talking about with mouse Click on your Taskbar.. that will be in the settings for your Windows 7 Integration.. this however, can also be a problem with the skin your using as well.. ( The plugin will allow you use the scroll button on your mouse as well )

3 is covered in Winamp..( even upgrades and changes ) click on the visualization in the main windows and it change... ( plus you have AVS support ) - depending on the skin you choose..

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Nice. Going into Global Hotkeys > Allow multimedia key support works. Play/Pause button on my keyboard works now. Even the vol button changes the vol of the whole system and the player together. :)

About spectrum, I've downloaded a plugin. :D

So then, now Winamp has all of my needs. Do you recommend I should fully switch to it even for videos on this computer?

BTW, thanks for guiding me. :thumbsup:

Just one problem, visualization doesn't auto start with the file, even when visualization tab is in focus, I'll have to look into it.

EDIT: Totally forgot, Minilyrics. Will have to reinstall it in order to use it.

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Do you mean AVS.. This is going to be in the Advance Beat detection.. These AVS are exact.. so it must have input on the ones that are actually written to respond exact..you need to tweak your settings for it the AVS Editor .. at the top of that window.. in the Menu.. You can get a better response time...resolution.. optimizations.. gothrough each one.. and expect some errors to occur as you find the right adjustment and setup for it.. ( also go tot he forums and get the 2.81b ) some settings will vary from system to system.. Recommend installing the Ligos Indeo Codec as well.. Yes you will need it.. no it won't be used unless it has too..and it will not interfer with your other codecs.. There are a lot of options for your system.. like R4.. and some others ones.. SoundSpectrum WhiteCap.. Glow, Plane, Morphyre...Odyss... Plus about 1-- 2000 different AVS Packs.. Absolutely can put WMP12's face in the dirt in this area.. May even share my collection if I get caught up with it..

Settings in this area can be touch and go.. Mine are different for different reasons..

EDIT: You can also use 'linein://' or 'linein:\\' in the Play Url.. and it will use the sound made by anything to run the Visualizations.. Like spinning a set with Traktor.. and running Winamp Visuals..

If your getting a delay in the Spectrum Analyzer window.. then there may be some thing else .. and this may be normal ( don't use the Spectrum my self.. but I used to.. cool ones with the cPro Skins - but I don't worry with cPro anymore )

Going to also assume your using Bento Skin..

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Well, I'm just talking about the visualization, close Winamp, open a file with Winamp, the visualization tab will be in focus but it wont start, will have to change to some other tab and back again in order to work.

I've found a nice spectrum analyzer visualization thats not crashing my Winamp like others I tried. :P Looking for a simple and a better one. Similar to what WMP has. :D

Well the visualization seems too fast right now, I remember I changed the settings yesterday from 30 frames to 60 frames, can't seem to remember how I did it.

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I think Winamp does this to keep from overloading system resources and locking it up.. Mine will not even show the Window if I have it running.. and close it.. Then re-open it.. so this may be for the best and I think its how its written..

Rendering performance.. would be what your looking for.. and you will have a difference between fullscreen and and normal.. two separate settings.. all in the AVS Editor..

EDIT: I remember once it took me a day and like a ton of presets to get things like I want them.. You know this can be a result of other settings and elements as well..

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Well that seem to have been solved now. Opening Winamp does play the visualization right away. Can't find AVS Editor. :P

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