Karlston Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Windows 10 updates seem to be broken (again), baffling users with unhelpful errors Following the same problem manifesting itself last month (Image credit: Shutterstock) Windows 10 has hit more trouble with updates, and some users are reporting that they can’t successfully install the latest cumulative update for September 2020. This is update KB4571756, and as Windows Latest reports, it’s apparently failing to install for some folks with an error message: “There were some problems installing updates, but we’ll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x800f081f).” There are various spins on this error message and code, and readers of Windows Latest, as well as folks on Microsoft’s Answers.com forum and Reddit have all described similar problems where Windows Update appears to be broken with the September update. If this is causing some serious déjà vu, that’s because the same issue was encountered with the cumulative update released in August (and possibly July, too, for some users it would seem). Sadly, none of the standard troubleshooting methods seem to be any help in terms of finding a solution to overcome this error. As you may recall, the KB4571756 (or Build 19041.508) update resolves a nasty issue with SSDs, but has also been responsible for other problems, including breaking the Start menu and killing Linux support. It’s not certain how widespread this current installation failure is, but to say that all is not well with the good ship Windows 10 at the moment would be an understatement (once again). Workaround or wait? One possible solution floated by Windows Latest to get around the error is a manual installation of the KB4571756 update, either grabbing it directly from the Microsoft Update Catalog or by using the Media Creation Tool. In the latter case, the advice is to run ‘Upgrade this PC now’ which should allow you to reinstall the offending update. However, we’d be somewhat wary of trying to manually force the update onto your PC – unless there’s a very good reason to do so. Further bear in mind that on the Answers.com thread highlighted above, Microsoft reps are apparently saying that the solution to this error is going to arrive with the next October round of patching (or possibly the October 2020 Update, which is now being readied for release). So you won’t have long to wait, and it may be worth just sitting it out (and possibly pausing updates) for the time being and seeing what happens next month. Windows 10 updates seem to be broken (again), baffling users with unhelpful errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truemate Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 FAILED OS in history of Microsoft.... even Vista was much stable than this win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, truemate said: FAILED OS in history of Microsoft.... even Vista was much stable than this win 10 nope, Vista has several more bugs like in Windows ME related with drivers and kernel stability and only become a bit stable in SP2 but still not better as 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymiabear Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Windows LTSC 2019 FTW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 14 hours ago, SPECTRUM said: nope, Vista has several more bugs like in Windows ME related with drivers and kernel stability and only become a bit stable in SP2 but still not better as 7. Vista Sp2 was better than Windows 7 before it got all the hot fixes in Windows 7 SP1 it was a whole SP of bug fixes. if you do the math Vista Sp2 came out only little over 2 years latter than Vista. Windows ME never got any SP it was always Windows ME 4.90.3000 but Windows 10 has has 11 versions GA in 5 years that was half of Vista , Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 life cycle . Windows ME dont count because it never got any SP like the others or Second Edition like Windows 98 i used it for a bit and switch to XP after it came out I started out on Windows ME. Windows ME would of been nice if it had got 3 SP like Windows XP did. But they chose to never make it any better in favor of XP. Because of the bad stigma it had . Same as they chose Windows 7 over Vista because of bad Stigma .And the same reason they chose Windows 10 over Windows 8 was bad stigma . If they would done like Apple did in 2001 you would be using Windows XP .But they waited tell 2015 to try and copy there release .MAC OSX 10 2001, Windows 10 2015. MAC OS has like one release a year but they dont push upgrades on users like Windows do now. You can keep using a old version if you want. So that Mac Os 5 releases to Windows 10 12 releases . Upgrades have been over kill with no consumer stability. The deal breaker for me was when upgrades would mess up my apps that i could not afford to buy upgrades for ,On Windows 8.1 Ive not had that problem since 2014 it got no updates to change anything since Windows 8.1 Update 3. Windows 10 has had 11 editions and 1 on the DEV channel in 5 years and it still full of bugs. Windows 10 want ever be stable like past versions was because they want stop adding new features and just do some updates to make it stable . unless you use a LTS version which is illegal for consumers to have so you have 0 support. I stop using windows 10 3 years ago and i still have Windows 8.1 but i dont use it ether . Ubuntu Linux is what use most of the time. I installed the install im on now in April 2018 and never no trouble . This is the longest i ever went without reinstalling a OS in the 20 years i used PCs on a daily driver. Were i use to test software when i used Windows xp I use to redo windows about every 30 days . When i used Windows 7 was the longest i went on Windows on a daily driver without reinstalling. On my old Vista SP2 PC it still has Windows 7 on it, i never used much it has the same Windows 7 install i put on it when Windows 7 was new lol but I never used it all the time. I want touch a OS unless it gets at lest 5 years support im older now so i like using my OS more than installing it and fixing it with workarounds. SOS it was on Windows 10 3 years ago i was doing manual updates most of the time because auto updates was crap to install. On Linux i can do auto updates everyday and they install fine. But i dont now i wait and do them like once a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paquini Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Remember that those updates are betas and it's normal they still have errors, don´t expect them as final editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 14 hours ago, steven36 said: Vista Sp2 was better than Windows 7 before it got all the hot fixes in Windows 7 SP1 it was a whole SP of bug fixes. if you do the math Vista Sp2 came out only little over 2 years latter than Vista. Windows ME never got any SP it was always Windows ME 4.90.3000 but Windows 10 has has 11 versions GA in 5 years that was half of Vista , Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 life cycle . Windows ME dont count because it never got any SP like the others or Second Edition like Windows 98 i used it for a bit and switch to XP after it came out I started out on Windows ME. Windows ME would of been nice if it had got 3 SP like Windows XP did. But they chose to never make it any better in favor of XP. Because of the bad stigma it had . Same as they chose Windows 7 over Vista because of bad Stigma .And the same reason they chose Windows 10 over Windows 8 was bad stigma . If they would done like Apple did in 2001 you would be using Windows XP .But they waited tell 2015 to try and copy there release .MAC OSX 10 2001, Windows 10 2015. MAC OS has like one release a year but they dont push upgrades on users like Windows do now. You can keep using a old version if you want. So that Mac Os 5 releases to Windows 10 12 releases . Upgrades have been over kill with no consumer stability. The deal breaker for me was when upgrades would mess up my apps that i could not afford to buy upgrades for ,On Windows 8.1 Ive not had that problem since 2014 it got no updates to change anything since Windows 8.1 Update 3. Windows 10 has had 11 editions and 1 on the DEV channel in 5 years and it still full of bugs. Windows 10 want ever be stable like past versions was because they want stop adding new features and just do some updates to make it stable . unless you use a LTS version which is illegal for consumers to have so you have 0 support. I stop using windows 10 3 years ago and i still have Windows 8.1 but i dont use it ether . Ubuntu Linux is what use most of the time. I installed the install im on now in April 2018 and never no trouble . This is the longest i ever went without reinstalling a OS in the 20 years i used PCs on a daily driver. Were i use to test software when i used Windows xp I use to redo windows about every 30 days . When i used Windows 7 was the longest i went on Windows on a daily driver without reinstalling. On my old Vista SP2 PC it still has Windows 7 on it, i never used much it has the same Windows 7 install i put on it when Windows 7 was new lol but I never used it all the time. I want touch a OS unless it gets at lest 5 years support im older now so i like using my OS more than installing it and fixing it with workarounds. SOS it was on Windows 10 3 years ago i was doing manual updates most of the time because auto updates was crap to install. On Linux i can do auto updates everyday and they install fine. But i dont now i wait and do them like once a week. for me the only really stable Windows versions I have used are: Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista SP2, Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update 3, and Windows 10 (any stable version). and the ones with real troubles and unstable are: Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SPECTRUM said: Windows 8 I never had any real trouble with Windows 8 other than it use to break one app i had tell they stop adding new features and M$ sent out a few botched updates i had to uninstall tell they fixed it. They sent out botched updates on Windows 7 too they been doing this even before Windows 10 came out . Every since they laid of there professional testers. People didnt like Windows 8 because it booted up in Windows store app mode , it had a charm bar and no start menu .You could go in settings and make it boot up on desktop always even before they added it too a update that just made it default. They is a program to remove the charmbar and installing 3rd party start menu is just like installing any other legacy app . Windows 8 was always more stable than Windows 7 as far as not having bugs, Main reason was they added built in drivers for WiFi and stuff. That the reason Vista was so bad before SP2 thy laid off there testers back then and people try to run it on PCs that were made for XP and i staid on XP tell SP2 was out Vista was a internal OS at M$ for many years before they released it and people was still using hardware from the stoneage so they was not ready for it unless they bought a PC with it on it new .I used Windows 7 before SP1 i had lots of problems with it i had to install many hotfixes that were not on Windows update tell SP1 came out. That why Windows 10 has been a shit show they laid off there professional testers again and replaced them with laymen off the street who only join insiders to get updates faster. I can report closed source software has a bug in it tel I turn blue in the face and that dont mean its ever going to get fixed and even if they do fix it because a million people reported it it dont mean the bug want come back on the next upgrade. Insiders are not software testers there bug reporters with no access to the source code . The US and China Governments have access too it but insiders dont. Windows 10 by the time they start getting a version stable they force a new version on consumers with a new set of bugs. Insiders are just for show they fix most bugs now with data they suck out from users. People who test software inflect bugs on themselves from using Alpha and beta software i done that for many years so i can keep windows 10 going with workarounds .But i got bored with testing Windows software in 2011 so i lost interest in it. I still test Windows software on Linux in crossover because it feels good to cheat the system . The main problem is there exposing the masses to beta software that are not software testers . If your technically inclined and know how to trouble shoot your opinion of windows will never get M$ back all the desktop users they lost to other OS your fighting a lost cause . I dont even suggest you use Linux but it is a option if you got fed up with Windows like i did. No amount of fanboyism is going to help it just makes things worse because fanboys just confuse people . If M$ ever gets a big consumer base again that will something M$ will have to do on there own. Windows is not a community maintained product its closed source in reality. If they ever open source it were i can do what i want with it i would use it again. it that simple . As long as they act like they know what best for me .Im not going to use it im a grown man that has to make my own choices in life . So im sure not going to let anyone online make them for me. Furthermore most people staid on XP SP2 for along time after SP3 came out that SP had regressions when it was new because i used it from day one when it released, Even it killed cracks that were made on SP2 and it borke lots of legit software as well. I used XP for 10 years so i used all the SP they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Paquini said: Remember that those updates are betas and it's normal they still have errors, don´t expect them as final editions. Here is the page on m$oft site for 'September 8, 2020—KB4571756 (OS Build 19041.508) Applies to: Windows 10, version 2004, all editionsWindows Server version 2004': https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4571756/windows-10-update-kb4571756. The update is stated as: 'security update includes quality improvements'. Where is the beta status? 1 hour ago, SPECTRUM said: for me the only really stable Windows versions I have used are: Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista SP2, Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update 3, and Windows 10 (any stable version) 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truemate Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 14 hours ago, SPECTRUM said: for me the only really stable Windows versions I have used are: Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista SP2, Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update 3, and Windows 10 (any stable version). and the ones with real troubles and unstable are: Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8. i have win 10 too that ltsc version on other HDD.. its ok ok... on main HDD once i installed win 10 enterprise...i undo it..crap.. back to win 7 sp1 64bit... luv it .. i also try win 8 .. that also good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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