Windows 7 is dead, but people still aren't moving to Windows 10

[steven36]

After Windows 7 entered its End of Life phase on January 14, 2020, Microsoft was clearly hoping that people would ditch its old operating system and upgrade to Windows 10, and the latest report by NetMarketShare does suggest that’s happening – but perhaps not in the numbers Microsoft was banking on.

 

 

NetMarketShare is a company that tracks operating system (and other software) usage online, and while it doesn’t account for devices that aren’t connected to the internet (or which opt out of its tracking), it does give us a good idea of what operating systems people are using.

 

 

Its latest report is the first one published after Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 7, and it does show a slight dip in Windows 7 market share – with 25.6% of people using the older operating system, compared to 29.57% in December 2019.

 

Meanwhile, Windows 10’s market share has risen slightly from 53.36% in December 2019 to 57.08%. That roughly corresponds with the market share drop of Windows 7, and while these results show things moving in the right direction, Microsoft is likely to still be disappointed.

 

Small gains

The main reason for this is that the expected big leap in Windows 10 user numbers did not materialise. While these results might still be a bit too early to fully judge what the impact of Windows 7’s End of Life will have on operating system market share, the fact that there was only a modest shift from Windows 7 to Windows 10 is a bit concerning. 

 

Plus, as we move away from the date of Windows 7’s End of Life, publicity around it will fade, which means we could see fewer people being persuaded to upgrade.

 

And, while the number of Windows 7 users has dropped, there is still a huge number of people using the outdated OS. Windows 7 remains the second most used operating system, after Windows 10.

 

The third most used OS is Windows 8.1, on 3.38%, followed by macOS 10.14 on 3.12% - highlighting just how much Apple is struggling to get people to buy Macs and MacBooks. Microsoft should at least take some solace in that.

 

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[Karlston]

20 minutes ago, steven36 said:

the expected big leap in Windows 10 user numbers did not materialise.

 

A roughly 4% drop in W7 from 29.57% and a similar increase in W10 from 53.36% is a significant increase, despite what the author (slightly) says.

 

Looking only at percentage change can be deceiving. W7 users dropped by ~13.5% (4/29.57) and W10 users increased by ~7.5% (4/53.36). Both look significant to me.

 

What was the author expecting after barely a month? W7 to drop to 0% and W10 to go to 100%?

[steven36]

53 minutes ago, steven36 said:

 

The third most used OS is Windows 8.1, on 3.38%, followed by macOS 10.14 on 3.12% - highlighting just how much Apple is struggling to get people to buy Macs and MacBooks. Microsoft should at least take some solace in that.

 

Netmarketshare is the only on who still mix up OS versions who count them all  that way combined  its not far to other OS  doing it that way because Windows 10 has so many versions and count them  combine its bullshit to favor M$  stuff. Mac OS  49%  are using something thing else besides Mac OS 10.14.   Mac OS latest version 10.15  only 9.63 % Mac users use it .

 

Mac OS X 10.0  came out in 2001  Windows 10 came out in 2015  and people be on different versions , Most  Mac OS users are spread across 7 different versions and the rest are even on older versions . Unlike Microsoft it dont seem they really care you use  a older version of Mac OS but they also have a billion users on IOS  and they sale hardware  and Apple is worth way over a trillion . 

 

21 minutes ago, Karlston said:

A roughly 4% drop in W7 from 29.57% and a similar increase in W10 from 53.36% is a significant increase, despite what the author (slightly) says.

When Windows 7 and 8.1  get down to hardly no more users Windows 10 going  to become like Mac OS and become really  boring because  everyone will be on different versions of Windows 10 only.

[ghost]

Never mind windows 7, I personally know people that still use XP. Also, i would like to point out that some people would not have not switched to windows 10 had they not been duped into a version upgrade.

[steven36]

8 minutes ago, ghost said:

Never mind windows 7, I personally know people that still use XP. Also, i would like to point out that some people would not have not switched to windows 10 had they not been duped into a version upgrade.

That's a  good point also there no way to tell  how many PCs  they is still with Windows 7 on it still  because of the 3 billion on smartphones.and not using windows at all or harley because they on moblie .   The internet ecosystem has really changed  since windows 10 came out back in June 2015 the month Windows 10 came out Windows had  52% of the OS Marketshare  all devices  by the end of January 2020 they only have 35%  Android  has more users with 39% people are all spread out across Apple OS , Microsoft OS and Google OS no platform is no were near 52% anymore  Windows Market shrunk 17% since they made Windows 10

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201506-202001

 

[cosy]

I'm still using Windows 95 on one of my PCs.

Lack of support doesn't mean "dead" OS

[aum]

1 hour ago, Karlston said:

What was the author expecting after barely a month? W7 to drop to 0% and W10 to go to 100%?

Said very well. 

[aum]

A famous quote comes to mind, "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated?"  😉

[steven36]

1 hour ago, Karlston said:

What was the author expecting after barely a month? W7 to drop to 0% and W10 to go to 100%?

1 month ? Windows 10 had 4  and half years and  still never got there billion users they wanted by cheating and giving it away  , forced upgrades  , making new hardware not compatible .   liability  from not having updates  Still 25% use windows 7 that very good for all the Microsoft did to try get people off Windows 7

 

Give me  a break it took them 4  and half years to get a little over half of the desktop users  still 48% of desktop users use something else and thats even with netmarketshare  cheating for M$ if they counted Windows 10 versions like they do mac it would be way less because every one is not on just one version of windows 10 but Netmarketshare cheat , They also counted Windows 8 and 8.1 as  different versions  but never Windows 10  they 12 versions of Windows 10 and they lost 17%  of there over all market to alternative OS in the process,  

 

You know there not happy they wanted people off Windows 7,  4 years ago and it failed they took every cheap shot  in the book to get  those users . It was not like when people migrated from XP to Windows 7 were people needed a new  PC . Consumers not bought Windows since Windows 7 was new , After all the stuff they done to Windows users is why i migrated to Linux. i pity you guys still on  windows . I really do but better you than me. 

[eurobyn]

Microsoft is making it so you can just run windows 10 and nothing else.

 

they have a point  1 operating system is 1 problem with updating

more os is more problems with updating

and the less os - less problems to work on.

 

yes everything wil just working fine (just less secure)

 

yes xp whas a fine product and still is.

yes windows  7 is a fine product and still is

 

but just less secure to use. and yes microsoft is pusching everyone to 10

 

one os = one time to update 

 

[Karlston]

It's interesting that one of Microsoft's reasons for Windows 10 AKA "the last version of Windows ever" was to reduce the number of versions being supported at any one time.

 

Let's see how that's worked out for them, from Windows lifecycle fact sheet (Microsoft) ...

 

There are three versions (1909, 1903, and 1809) for each of Home, Pro, Pro Education, and Pro for Workstations currently supported. That's 12 versions in total there.

 

And five versions (1909, 1903, 1809, 1803, 1709) for each of Education and Enterprise currently supported. There's another 10 versions in total.

 

Lastly, three versions (LTSB 2015, LTSB 2016, LTSC 2019) for Enterprise LTSC/LTSB and IoT Enterprise LTSC/LTSB currently supported. Another 6 versions in total here.

 

28 versions of Windows 10 currently supported.

 

"Windows 10 are the last 28 versions of Windows ever". TIFIFY Microsoft. 

[dhjohns]

If cheating is giving away a product for free, then I am all for cheating.  Windows 10 will eventually take over due to new computers.  If you don't like incompatible hardware don't talk to Microsoft talk to the hardware manufacturers.  I have used all the operating systems, and I really like Windows 10.  Since there are many people in this world there will be some who don't like it.  That is to be expected.  But, we do have a plethora of operating systems out there, Mac and a zillion permutations of Linux which are actually quite capable.  May I suggest one?  Deepin which is built on Debian.  It is super nice!  Anyway don't pity me because I am on Windows 10.  I have had nothing but success with it.  For me it has been fast, robust, and stable.

[funkyy]

If Win10 is really going to be "the last Windows version ever" then I'll wait until it has (hopefully) put its patch Tuesday teething troubles behind it.

I'm quite laid back about things in life (in general) and I have lots of patience, but I would self combust if after all my careful handling of my machine

Microsoft themselves caused me some of the heartache that I have read other people have had with Win 10. My Win7 is doing all that I want for now

and I'll upgrade to Win 10 one day...but I refuse to be pushed or manipulated into upgrading.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[aum]

37 minutes ago, Karlston said:

28 versions of Windows 10 currently supported.

More than all earlier versions combined.  And this is progress?  😉

[steven36]

1 hour ago, Karlston said:

28 versions of Windows 10 currently supported.

Mac OS  only had 18  releases since 2001 and thats even  counts the betas they had before it was released it you count when Windows 10  before Windows 10 was released they even more TH1 was just a beta they release too early in the Wild but they was beta testing Windows 10 a year  before it got released . Thats crazy

 

1 hour ago, dhjohns said:

If cheating is giving away a product for free, then I am all for cheating.

I would not  count my  eggs before  they hatched windows 10 is only 4 and half years old , The most  i ever knew  them to support  a OS was 14 years  with Windows XP . When they blacklisted chips on Windows 10  and stop them from upgrading  they knocked  them back too 8 years of updates there updates run out when Windows 8.1 does in 2023 so they have to buy Windows 10 again  and buy a new PC or use Linux . They  gave me Windows 7 for buying a a new PC with Vista  i didn't get 10 years of updates in order to get 10 years updates you had to be using Windows 7 from the day it came out. 

 

Windows 10 home  they gave me was not as good as Windows 7 home i got for free or Windows 8/8.1 home  i bought , it is crippleware  with bloatware  so no wonder they gave it  away for free , because no one will buy it,  the only versions  they been able to sale since windows 7 was new is  windows 7 Pro , Windows 7 Enterprise and Windows 10 Enterprise to businesses. Only reason PCs picked up sales is Windows 7 eol and liability  from not having updates . windows 10 for business.

 

Home users dont have to update  they can stay on a old version of windows  or ue Mac OS ,IOS , Android or Linux.  It to early to tell what they going to do to Windows 10 users yet to try to make money  on them .  Windows 98 only got 8 years updates  so you never know  .  But they never going get no more money from me . Windows 10 RS 3 was the end of the road for me .

[dhjohns]

49 minutes ago, steven36 said:

Mac OS  only had 18  releases since 2001 and thats even  counts the betas they had before it was released it you count when Windows 10  before Windows 10 was released they even more TH1 was just a beta they release too early in the Wild but they was beta testing Windows 10 a year  before it got released . Thats crazy

 

I would not  count my  eggs before  they hatched windows 10 is only 4 and half years old , The most  i ever knew  them to support  a OS was 14 years  with Windows XP . When they blacklisted chips on Windows 10  and stop them from upgrading  they knocked  them back too 8 years of updates there updates run out when Windows 8.1 does in 2023 so they have to buy Windows 10 again  and buy a new PC or use Linux . They  gave me Windows 7 for buying a a new PC with Vista  i didn't get 10 years of updates in order to get 10 years updates you had to be using Windows 7 from the day it came out. 

 

Windows 10 home  they gave me was not as good as Windows 7 home i got for free or Windows 8/8.1 home  i bought , it is crippleware  with bloatware  so no wonder they gave it  away for free , because no one will buy it,  the only versions  they been able to sale since windows 7 was new is  windows 7 Pro , Windows 7 Enterprise and Windows 10 Enterprise to businesses. Only reason PCs picked up sales is Windows 7 eol and liability  from not having updates . windows 10 for business.

 

Home users dont have to update  they can stay on a old version of windows  or ue Mac OS ,IOS , Android or Linux.  It to early to tell what they going to do to Windows 10 users yet to try to make money  on them .  Windows 98 only got 8 years updates  so you never know  .  But they never going get no more money from me . Windows 10 RS 3 was the end of the road for me .

Somewhere  in here you are making sense, but it is non-sense!  😆😅🤣😂  Hey, we get you don't like Windows, but stop making things up about it!

[zigzag]

Windows Embedded POSReady 7 Extended support ends on October 12, 2021

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Industry)

Users will use Embedded edition or use tools for installing paid updates.

[steven36]

1 hour ago, dhjohns said:

Somewhere  in here you are making sense, but it is non-sense!  😆😅🤣😂  Hey, we get you don't like Windows, but stop making things up about it!

Windows 10 is not really free  , when you can buy a new  PC and they not charge the vendor windows tax then its free . The reason Windows 10 is not free since there not apple that  only allow you to use there OS legal with there hardware  they need  that money because they not sell you the hardware . Them charging enterprise by the month dont sound like they ever plain to go free . If they give away free upgrades  it will be Windows 10 x were they sold you the hardware 

 

The only free upgrade they gave away was some cripple pro or home version of Windows 10 to get users off Windows 7 the back door is still there I guess you can download windows 10  online installer and upgrade. But its just a backdoor they can close anytime  ,one day they will and  when they close it that the end of the Windows 10 crack too get around activation .

 

If i hate Windows because i'm not going to  pay for Windows again that mean 90% of this forum hate Windows .Microsoft  sure dont like them instead of  going out and paying  money they steal it from Microsoft  . Microsoft hates Windows pirates because there a 100%  loss  and that why they gave  users a cripple pro or home version of Windows 10 because consumers stop buying it . They forced there hand to make crap version of Windows  , Windows 10 fanboy pirates  made make me laugh  because they bite the hand the  feeds them and  they dont support  them .

 

Before Microsoft  gave the Windows 10 crippleware free upgrade away fanboy pirates was rare. They never trusted Microsoft because they deactivated windows.  Why do you like someone that dont like you at end of the day? They only in it  for the money and if you dont pay and use it your really a freeloader to them. Windows 10 fanboy pirates  are hypocrites  they dont even buy windows  and they ruin  it for windows XP and Windows 7 users who did. You get what you pay for with closed source software you pay nothing  you get junkware   and if you steal the good versions you get deactivated  one day. Im not the reason Windows home and pro is shit i bought my stuff  , Piracy and people switching to mobile  is why its shit. Some Windows consumers  are what ruined Windows for consumers

[ghost]

2 hours ago, dhjohns said:

If cheating is giving away a product for free, then I am all for cheating. 

Free copies (pirated) vista and 8/8.1 and i still would not touch it. 

[steven36]

4 hours ago, ghost said:

Free copies (pirated) vista and 8/8.1 and i still would not touch it. 

Im on Windows 8.1  right now i rather use Windows vista  or Windows 8.1 than  windows 10  . People want even pirate Windows Vista or Windows 8.1  i use to to be the same way back when all i ever used was XP  i stayed on Windows XP  for 10 years tell i try Vista SP2 on new hardware at the time.  and ended up using Windows 7 for a few years because it was a free upgrade in the mail for people who  bought new vista PCs.  . the thing was Microsoft  try to sell people on Vista  and Windows 8.1  just like they did Windows 10  just like they  try to always sale the  next version of Windows  10  on you ,  unless you use windows 10 LTSB   you can only push updates  back so  long if your a consumer you get 18 months max   because general release only get 18 months support . But they  will be be  pushing it to you as soon as they think your system is ready. While  on Linux and 8.1  i been using the same images for over 2 years . If i was using Windows 10 Home and some how blocked upgrades  only way i could do that  is if I locked it down and not do updates at all.  i still got updates tell 2023 . People stayed on Vista  for 10 years and people will stay on Windows 8.1 for 10 years but most people on Windows 10 upgrade 1 or 2 times a year  that's if there not insiders and  force more bugs  on themselves than the general release has .

 

This forum has it update seekers and beta testers . they can shout to the  high heavens how great Windows 10 is but reality tells a different story with the 48% percent of desktop  users  that dont use Windows 10  yet still and  mobile have 3 billion users. I can't talk to my kids or my friends  in the real world about PCs because they stop using PCs  years ago. They have mobiles and smart TVs.   The thing was  when Windows 7 came out smart phones were not mainstream yet every body still used PCs it's not so anymore .

 

I dont use Windows  very often anymore it's not because i dont like Windows.  i can do anything on Windows 8.1 that i  can do on Linux maybe not the same programs  , maybe even more  . But the fact is  i dont need windows like i did when windows 7  came out just like the other 3 billion +  consumers dont need it anymore . I can remove Windows 8.1 and  just  use Linux . Only reason  i still have windows 8.1 is because i can and have a legal key for it,  but i dont have to have it i may use it once in a blue moon   . But also my PCs all been registered to Windows 10  but I'm not interested in Windows that much to beta test for them again so i dont install it . I rather use my OS than be installing it. I broke the habit  of using Windows all the time years ago  and thanks to windows 10 i did . so thank Microsoft for making Windows 10!  it stop me from being depended on you ! It was a blessing for me .  Desktop is in a sad state  because Mac OS  is mostly for people who have more money than brains ,  windows and  Linux both is geared   toward business  more than it is consumers , PC gaming being the one expectation  and that's not enough to get the 3 billion mobile users on desktop alone. None of the marketing Microsoft does    has been  enough ether   . Fact is most consumers dont read the PC centric  news only way they hear about them if they make the world news. Only ITs mostly read it .

 

Only reason they read it on this site is because most of them come on here to pirate software  . But many members here fought us tooth and nail  not post the news at all  If it was up to windows pirates  they would be no news at all on this site . they dont like it  they the ones be in comments  saying Microsoft's shit dont stink when they stole there copy of windows  and  dont help Microsoft . even if there insiders they just do it to get new versions faster . Only one honest insider i ever seen on this forum  to tell you the truth.   Beta testing is not a bed of roses no matter what OS you use  that why it's a pre release  and when bugs boil over into general release it becomes problematic in stable as well because of to many versions of it.

[catfish]

On 2/5/2020 at 5:08 AM, dhjohns said:

If cheating is giving away a product for free, then I am all for cheating.  Windows 10 will eventually take over due to new computers.  If you don't like incompatible hardware don't talk to Microsoft talk to the hardware manufacturers.  I have used all the operating systems, and I really like Windows 10.  Since there are many people in this world there will be some who don't like it.  That is to be expected.  But, we do have a plethora of operating systems out there, Mac and a zillion permutations of Linux which are actually quite capable.  May I suggest one?  Deepin which is built on Debian.  It is super nice!  Anyway don't pity me because I am on Windows 10.  I have had nothing but success with it.  For me it has been fast, robust, and stable.

 

 

Deepin is really epic I must say. The fact that I don't need to sudo apt-get ms fonts but just use its fonts app to do it is a big relief in itself. But deeping suffers from a really huge drawback. You cannot install grub to any other place except your default efi folder. That is really bad considering that Fedora and others allow to install grub to any partition. So I just install it to /root and viola! I can distro hop at will.

 

But give Zorrin a try, it serves as a good live backup and is snappy. may ry and install it someday. its so easy to use even my mom likes it.