Karlston Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Windows 10 version 1803 customers: Brace for impact Microsoft just officially announced that it’s revving up its algorithms, with an eye toward pushing Win10 version 1903 on machines running Win10 1803 or earlier. One little problem: It didn’t say how it's going to push. Possibilities — many of them unpleasant — abound. IDG Communications If you’re running Win10 version 1803 — still, by far, the most common version of Win10 — Microsoft has a little surprise for you. Yesterday, a one-paragraph amendment appeared on the official Release Information page for version 1903: We are now beginning to build and train the machine learning (ML) based rollout process to update devices running the April 2018 Update, and earlier versions of Windows 10, to ensure we can continue to service these devices and provide the latest updates, security updates and improvements. The only details we have at this point were announced back in April, when Microsoft VP Mike Fortin stated: When Windows 10 devices are at, or will soon reach, end of service, Windows Update will continue to automatically initiate a feature update. We’ve been expecting the push for a couple of months — Microsoft’s long been open about saying it was going to start forcing 1803-to-1903 upgrades in June — but I’ve always hoped that the announcement would be accompanied by some indication of how the push would, you know, shove. My first question is whether the new-new machine-learning algorithms will be significantly better that the almost-new ML algorithms that gave us the horrible 1809 rollout, replete with permanently deleted files, or the then-new ML that gave us the 1803 rollout with DOA USB devices. More than that, though, we only know that Microsoft is going to start pushing 1803 users to 1903 somehow. Will the ML pusher respect the Win10 1803 Pro’s defer upgrade settings? We already know that Microsoft no longer recognizes the Semi-Annual Channel setting, but what happens if the deferral is set to max out right about the time 1803’s set to expire, on Nov. 11? (Yes, you read that right — 1803 officially has five months of life left, but Microsoft is starting to send it to the morgue in the coming days.) Will the ML pusher respect the metered connection setting? Up until Microsoft promised that 1803 users would get a “Download and install now” option, metered connections were the only defense Home users had against pushed patches, short of disabling Windows Update. For that matter, will those in imminent danger of being pushed to 1903 be given the promised block, the “Download and install now” link? Can you simply ignore the link until Nov. 10, and stay on 1803? We don’t have answers to any of those questions. Until we do, your only hope for staying on 1803 is to follow my traditional instructions to block the upgrade to 1903. When we know more — how the pushed upgrade actually works, as opposed to how Microsoft says it’ll work — you’ll hear about it here first. Join us for the death watch on AskWoody.com. Source: Windows 10 version 1803 customers: Brace for impact (Computerworld - Woody Leonhard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Microsoft cranks up Windows 10 1803-to-1903 forcible upgrades The company is now telling customers running last year's Windows 10 version 1803 that it will soon begin forced upgrade to the latest feature refresh released in May. Microsoft / Thinkstock Microsoft this week quietly alerted customers running last year's Windows 10 version 1803 that it would soon start a forced upgrade to the latest feature refresh. In a note added to the Windows release health dashboard on June 18, Microsoft wrote: "We are now beginning to build and train the machine learning (ML) based rollout process to update devices running the April 2018 Update, and earlier versions of Windows 10, to ensure we can continue to service these devices." The move was expected, as last month Microsoft said that starting in late June it would begin upgrading Windows 10 Home PCs - and perhaps Windows 10 Pro systems as well - from 1803, the April 2018 Update, to this year's 1903. Previously, Computerworld had pegged June 25 - the fourth and final Tuesday of the month - as the likeliest date for Microsoft to begin the forced upgrades of 1803. Microsoft uses the second day of each week to deliver update and upgrades, notably the second week of each month, the traditional "Patch Tuesday," to issue security fixes. Normally, the Home 1803 PCs would have been upgraded to the immediate successor, last fall's Windows 10 October 2018 Update, aka 1809, long before now. But because 1809 harbored a destructive bug, requiring Microsoft to yank it from distribution and not return it for re-release until early 2019, three months behind schedule, it seemed the company simply gave up on 1809. According to what little outside information exists, in March Microsoft greatly slowed its delivery of 1809 to users of Windows 10 1803. At nearly the same time, Microsoft decided to change its feature upgrade policy for Windows 10 Home (and again, perhaps Pro as well). That came in April, when the Redmond, Wash. developer announced the "Download and install now" (DaIN) option. DaIN will let users decide when, or even if, to download and install one of the twice-yearly feature upgrades. But even as Microsoft turned over more control than ever before to Windows 10 Home users and those running unmanaged Windows 10 Pro PCs, the firm reserved the right to do things the old fashioned way. As the Windows 10 version powering a PC neared end of support - Microsoft never nailed down what "near" meant in terms of weeks or months - the company would intervene as it always did before, to upgrade the machine and keep patches flowing. Assuming Computerworld has correctly interpreted Microsoft's pronouncements of DaIN, the forcible upgrade and the 1803-to-1903 transition in particular - for Microsoft has been closed-mouthed about anything but the broadest strokes - this will become the new normal. Once Microsoft rolls out a feature upgrade, users will themselves decide whether to acquire and adopt it and if so, when they do. If they decline a feature upgrade - by simply doing nothing, since DaIN shifts deployment to an opt-in approach - they will continue to run what now powers their Windows 10 PC. At or around the four-to-five-months-remaining mark Microsoft will take things in its own hands and start to upgrade PCs to keep them in support. The following figure shows how this will work for the next several feature upgrades. Note: One of the side effects of DaIN and the forced upgrades is that users who do nothing will be moved to an annual upgrade schedule, half the frequency of before. IDG/Gregg Keizer When Windows 10 Home and Pro users do nothing, Microsoft will upgrade their PCs for them as their OS nears the end of support. It's not unusual for Microsoft to leave lots of unanswered questions. In fact, that's the company's modus operandi: It typically announces a new Windows process or policy but withholds the details, which eventually are gleaned from its actual operation or from documentation, or both. For example, Microsoft has not specified how much in advance of a feature upgrade's end-of-support date it will begin to forcibly upgrade customers. This is one of the biggest unknowns in DaIN's methodology, but far from the only mystery. Computerworld columnist Woody Leonard highlighted others, such as "Can you simply ignore the link until Nov. 10, and stay on 1803?" and "Will the ML pusher respect the metered connection setting?" "Yes" is an unlikely answer for either. If Microsoft means to keep systems in support, letting users wait until the last minute would contradict that; if DaIN works as advertised, the metered connection setting won't be necessary (and wouldn't be allowed to interfere, one would think, with the forced upgrade during the last four or five months of support). It's unclear whether the DaIN decision was linked to the debacle of Windows 10 1809 or if Microsoft had decided to give upgrade control to users long before. The close timing suggested the latter, as it seemed that it would have been difficult for Microsoft to decide on, then implement DaIN in just four or five months. There is no question, though, that DaIN, particularly the rule that lets Microsoft upgrade without user approval near the end of support, helped solve the 1809 problem. Rather than back everything up - getting 1809 onto 1803 machines months late, which would have a domino effect - it let Microsoft gracefully (well, relatively) skip 1809 and go straight to 1903, putting the schedule almost back on track. Source: Microsoft cranks up Windows 10 1803-to-1903 forcible upgrades (Computerworld - Gregg Keizer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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