Karlston Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Installing the January cumulative update for the Win10 Anniversary Update leaves System Restore useless on many systems Credit: Thinkstock A post early this morning confirms that KB 3213986, the latest cumulative update for the most widely used version of Windows 10, breaks System Restore on some systems. The error report (see screenshot) on Günter Born’s Borncity website says there’s an “unspecified error” while working in a module called AppxStaging. Günter Born System Restore, you may recall, relies on Restore Points to save and retrieve copies of system files, settings, registry entries, and the like. It first appeared in Windows ME, became a mainstay of system protection in Windows XP and 7, then was intentionally hidden in 8.1—accessible, but only if you knew where it was buried. In Windows 10, automatic creation of Restore Points is turned off by default, but many people (present company included) recommend turning them on as one of the first steps after installing a new copy of Windows 10. With System Restore working properly, recovering from a bad patch or a faulty program can be a three- or four-click process. However, the System Restore feature has fallen out of favor, with Microsoft making it much simpler to reset a PC by copying over all system files. In recent years, I’ve heard more and more complaints about Restore Points disappearing and System Restore failing. Born, it appears, has figured out at least one source of System Restore's problems and has a solution for the problem with KB 3213986. There’s a nine-page thread on the Microsoft Answers forum, with Gregory Livingston posting: My testing shows that: It is update KB 3213986 that causes the problem to occur in the first instance. Rolling back the update does not correct the problem. Performing the known fix returns System Restore functionality. For how long, we don’t yet know. Born confirms this finding and gives a detailed explanation of the “known fix,” which involves five steps and culminates in cleaning out a protected folder that’s owned by the Win10 system ID TrustedInstaller. Going through those steps is not for the faint of heart. As Born says: As a Windows 10 user, you are forced to use a third-party backup tool (Macrium Reflect, EaseUS ToDo Backup, etc.) to create system backups on a periodical base, in the hope that you are able to restore a damaged OS. You have to wonder whether Microsoft even tests these things. Discussion continues on the AskWoody Lounge. Source: Windows 10 update KB 3213986 triggers System Restore error 0x80070091 (InfoWorld - Woody Leonhard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryrynz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Wondered why my restoring wasn't working.. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 As if any normal Windows 10 user is ever going to see this information or know how to fix it when it is all they can do to push a button to turn their systems on. The only way they will even find out anything is broke is when their system won't boot and they try to do a restore and it doesn't work. Microsoft has screwed the pooch so many times with Windows 10 it is amazing that some of the systems are still running. The sure way of stopping Microsoft is to run DeepFreeze so that any change made to the system is discarded when it is restarted. That has worked on some of our test bed systems to stop Windows updates from screwing them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Karlston said: You have to wonder whether Microsoft even tests these things. Why should Microsoft test it, they have a million users (commonly referred to as beta testers) to do it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 12 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Only working medicin is , using good backup software ( Im using Acronis, TODO,Ghost etc.) and making a backup some times . Keep these backups at secure places ( I make two or three copies of them and place them on 3 different HDDs ), its taking some time , but you are ALWAYS SAFE, and you can always restore without reinstalling complete rig. Making or restoring takes about 4 minutes , complete OS , about 20GB . Reinstalling takes a lot more of your time.............. Even by hardware-failure , coz my backups are placed on several HDDs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch234 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 This has probably (or assuredly) been said somewhere before that Microsoft has become quite the dictatorship. A shameless entity that has no concern whatsoever of the grief and ruin they are causing in order to bring about their visions of the future. Which is solely for their benefit, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Stray when microsoft tests it its alpha release not beta release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I made a restore not long ago it was after February 7 with no problems maybe it has something to do with the 1st thing I do when i install Windows 10 is uninstall all those built in apps that comes in windows 10 with power shell ? I had far less trouble overall with restores in Windows 10 than I had in windows 8.1 I always had to disable self protection with my antivirus and reboot to do restores in windows 8.1 and never had do that in Windows 10 yet. Issues with restores was realty bad in XP so bad that that's the reason the made 3rd party restore software like Roll Back RX witch cause lots of bad side effects . third-party backup software has been around for ages so how is Microsoft built in restore being shit anything new? I hate for you to try Linux and have to fix when it breaks if you think Winders is hard! Windows have reset button and builtin restore and there's all kinds of 3rd party backup software you have it really easy and dont know it lol. Too fix Linux you actually have to read . That's the problem you people think that windows can always fix itself and it cant ..Back when I use to test a lot in real time I use too reinstall windows about every month. Sooner or latter if you push you're luck something is going too happen and it dont matter what OS you use .So if you dont make backups every week you just have to reformat when it happens . As long as you dont install nothing but software updates and dont use snake oil apps or do no testing if you use windows 7 you can go years without having to use backup software or reformatting. I done it before. On Windows 10 that's not so easy unless you use enterprise and stay on a old version or block windows updates in others. A new version comes out every so many months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 old news, KB3213986 was replaced by KB3216755 which fixes a lot of issues: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB3216755 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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