Nine killed in lorry 'attack' on Berlin Christmas market

[EnglishLionheart]

http://news.sky.com/story/nine-killed-in-lorry-attack-on-berlin-christmas-market-10702656

[knowledge-Spammer]

so much attack nowdays

[VIKTOR PAVEL]

such a shame on christmas!

[Bausch]

1 hour ago, VIKTOR PAVEL said:

such a shame on christmas!

That is exactly what they want. To ruin our celebrations.

 

Given the recent calls, I can only assume this is an ISIS related attack. Definitely not an isolated accident.

 

It speaks volumes of their character. No way they can claim they are peaceful. This is the thank you German people get for their hospitality to the muslim refugees.

[ThisPC666]

as usual there is still no mentioning of who the driver was. 

[DKT27]

Our wishes and prayers to those effected by this. Terrorism has to stop and all the countries, keeping aside their own interests, together need to stop it.

 

 

1 hour ago, Bausch said:

This is the thank you German people get for their hospitality to the muslim refugees.

 

If humanity needs help then it's the humanity's responsibility to give help. Just that they forgot to check whether certain particular individuals deserve that hospitality or not. Also, as a leader, your own people should get first priority over giving hospitality for outsiders.

 

50 minutes ago, ThisPC666 said:

as usual there is still no mentioning of who the driver was. 

 

Was unknown originally, but now some information is available on it.

[BALTAGY]

Until people start to ignore the media and start to be united and try to see the full picture for all this it wont be stopped

 

In each country the media play really good to make people hate the other side, strange thing is if you believe for example that ISIS is Muslims you should simply read the Quran and see if there's anything about killing innocent people or not Muslims

 

You will find that Quran say that killing one innocent what ever he's religion or color or country it's like killing all humanity and it's strongly forbidden

 

When people all around the world start to wake up to see the right picture they will start to ask the right questions like

 

Who's ISIS?

 

Who's supporting them with money and weapons?

 

Are they all Arabs?

 

If they are Muslims why they killing Muslims too?

 

etc

 

Until then you will keep see people or groups like ISIS one by one, if ISIS is gone later you will see another person or group with another name and for sure they will say Allah Akabar and such words while killing to make it related to Muslims

 

In Egypt 2 attacks in 3 day's one behind a mosque and another in church and both have sadly innocent people dead what ever their realign is

[jtmulc]

If I misplace my toothbrush, ISIS will claim responsibility

[DKT27]

1 hour ago, BALTAGY said:

 

 

I'm a firm believer that all the religious heads, from all the main religions, should come forward, together and reject and condemn all forms of terrorism and terrorism in the name of religion here.

[jtmulc]

5 minutes ago, DKT27 said:

 

I'm a firm believer that all the religious heads, from all the main religions, should come forward, together and reject and condemn all forms of terrorism and terrorism in the name of religion here.

 

Pope Francis has.  As did Pope Benedict before him.  And John Paul II before that.  Not just in the Middle East, but in Northern Ireland as well.

I'm not an expert on comparative religion, I understand that unlike the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox, there isn't one leader to speak for the Muslim faith (nor is there one faith), but a great many leaders, 70,000 of whom denounced terrorism and said it's not part of their faith.

[ThisPC666]

1 hour ago, jtmulc said:

 

Pope Francis has.  As did Pope Benedict before him.  And John Paul II before that.  Not just in the Middle East, but in Northern Ireland as well.

I'm not an expert on comparative religion, I understand that unlike the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox, there isn't one leader to speak for the Muslim faith (nor is there one faith), but a great many leaders, 70,000 of whom denounced terrorism and said it's not part of their faith.

 

and that is precisely whats wrong. thus why its one big pile of messed up . those 70,000 are useless coz they only denounce the ones that do the acts BUT NEVER DENOUNCE the SOURCE of their ACTS. which is the MAIN CAUSE.  all they do is DENY, DEFLECT, DEVIATE. 

 

this constant denials of them only empowers this kinds of people. 

 

for this problem to resolved, they first MUST admit that there is a PROBLEM, (this is the elephant in the room) and be FRANK and HONEST about it. 

 

unlike in catholicism, orthodox, and other christian denomination, they have a figure head, a central figure and there is clearly a hierarchy and that puts things in order.  

 

lastly, 

 

IN before BIN. 

 

[pc71520]

Russian Ambassador in Turkey.

 

Christmas Market in Germany.

 

What will be the next ISIS target? 

 

[kasper]

The suspect arrested over the Berlin market attack is not thought to be the person responsible and the perpetrator is still at large with a weapon, according to a report in German media.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/20/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.html

https://www.rt.com/news/370965-berlin-christmas-market-attack/

 

He stared condolences to the family of Polish track driver

 

I hope german special forces killed or Catch

[Bausch]

14 hours ago, DKT27 said:

Our wishes and prayers to those effected by this. Terrorism has to stop and all the countries, keeping aside their own interests, together need to stop it.

 

 

 

If humanity needs help then it's the humanity's responsibility to give help. Just that they forgot to check whether certain particular individuals deserve that hospitality or not. Also, as a leader, your own people should get first priority over giving hospitality for outsiders.

 

 

Was unknown originally, but now some information is available on it.

Unless there is enough evidence to support the fact that certain groups of people do in fact intend to overtake your culture and destroy civilization only to replace it with their own ideology.

In that case, I think it would be more humane to let them be, maybe they will identify the errors in their ways.

 

It has been proven over and over again, they do not wish to live and let live. And they do not accept nor respect the cultures of the countries that chose to take them.

 

I understand this kind of debate can get too intense, so I will try and refrain from inflaming it.

 

I do agree with you on prioritizing native people over strangers.

[info999]

the world would be much better without religions or Gods

[ThisPC666]

7 hours ago, info999 said:

the world would be much better without religions or Gods

 

the world would be much better without people. 

 

stephen hawking is just mad, coz god made him that way. 

[mona]

On 20.12.2016 at 2:42 AM, ThisPC666 said:

as usual there is still no mentioning of who the driver was. 

 

Berlin attack:

Tunisian man 'identified as suspect' from truck documents

 

German police are hunting a Tunisian man over the Berlin market attack after finding documents in the lorry, according to reports.

The identity document was found under the driver's seat of the vehicle - which ploughed into crowds at the Christmas market on Monday evening, killing 12 people.

Der Spiegel and Allgemeine Zeitung reported that the document, apparently asylum office papers announcing a stay of deportation, was in the name of Anis A, born in 1992 in Tataouine, Tunisia.

The suspect was also known to have two aliases, according to the newspapers.

Bild said Anis A was known to police for bodily harm and is considered dangerous.

 

It comes after reports that a Polish man, whose lorry was hijacked before being used to wreak havoc, was beaten and stabbed and is thought to have only been shot dead after the attack.

The body of Lukasz Urban, 37, was found in the cab of the lorry in Breischeidplatz after it smashed through the market for up to 80m (260ft).

Bild reported that his boss - also said to be his cousin - was shown a picture of his injuries which suggested he had been alive until he was shot after the attack.

He told the newspaper: "It was terrible. There were bruises, fouling. His face was swollen. It looked like a fight."

An investigator told Die Welt newspaper that the suspect drew a knife and stabbed the driver several times, possibly because the Pole grabbed the steering wheel in an attempt to save people.

 

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Islamic State has claimed it was behind the attack. The group's news agency Amaq said one of its "soldiers" had carried out the deadly crash.

 

    Source

 

[ThisPC666]

well here we go again. another ID left either deliberately or accidentally. really really suspicious. makes me wonder whether this terrorist are really stupid or someone in the higher ups are deliberately executing false flags attacks. 

[info999]

3 hours ago, ThisPC666 said:

 

the world would be much better without people. 

 

stephen hawking is just mad, coz god made him that way. 

are you god ? how do you know what he thinks ?

[kasper]

Christmas market attack suspect killed in Milan

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/23/europe/berlin-christmas-market-attack-suspect-killed-milan/index.html

https://www.rt.com/news/371401-berlin-attacker-killed-italy/

12 victim Christmas market attack,first victim from Czech Republic 

[pc71520]

Meanwhile,

Malta hostage situation: Hijackers threaten to blow up Afriqiyah Airways plane

[ThisPC666]

great he's dead. dead man tell no tales. 

[anselmo]

This criminal attack has nothing to do with the refugees coming to Germany. Most of them are very grateful to Germany, they are fleeing a devastating civil war in Syria. Also, Germany is not prioritizing native people over strangers, Germany is welcoming civilians who are in a desperate stuation, their cities and towns have been obliterated as anyone can see in the terrifying images coming from Syria.

Most Muslim people want to live in peace. This is my personal experience. ISIS are a needle in a haystack, just look at the worldwide Muslim population.

Also, there is a general confusion where people associate nacionality with religion. Syrian people are not necessarily Muslim, they certainly have Syrian nacionality, beyond that they could be or believe anything privately or publicly. Most will probably follow their Muslim traditions, some will firmly believe in their Muslim faith, others will believe in other religions or even be agnostic or atheist. Whether they feel free to say so is a different matter.

[ThisPC666]

1 hour ago, anselmo said:

This criminal attack has nothing to do with the refugees coming to Germany. Most of them are very grateful to Germany, they are fleeing a devastating civil war in Syria. Also, Germany is not prioritizing native people over strangers, Germany is welcoming civilians who are in a desperate stuation, their cities and towns have been obliterated as anyone can see in the terrifying images coming from Syria.

Most Muslim people want to live in peace. This is my personal experience. ISIS are a needle in a haystack, just look at the worldwide Muslim population.

Also, there is a general confusion where people associate nacionality with religion. Syrian people are not necessarily Muslim, they certainly have Syrian nacionality, beyond that they could be or believe anything privately or publicly. Most will probably follow their Muslim traditions, some will firmly believe in their Muslim faith, others will believe in other religions or even be agnostic or atheist. Whether they feel free to say so is a different matter.

 

the problem with the "Most" is they do not speak up. 

evil triumphs when good men do nothing. 

 

 

[anselmo]

My point of view is that some good people speak uo, others live in fear and stay silent. The Syrian refugees come from the frontline of a very ugly war. Most of them are powerless. Yet they have spoken after the terrorist attack.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/20/refugees-plead-germans-christmas-market-attack

If we help them, not only we will be doing the right thing, but we will also counteract the message of hate and war that ISIS (Daesh) and other groups are trying to propagate.

ThisPC666, thank you for the video, the young lady makes very interesting points about the "irrelevant peaceful majority" However, I would like to make a few comments. First when she talks about those 20 something % radicalized Muslims, it doesn;t mean that millions of Muslims are seeking to destroy the West, or America. It means that they follow a radical interpretatation of their religion. They can still be peaceful people. Otherwise we would have those millions acting as terrorists or jihadi fighters, which is absurd as this is not happening, not even in Syria. Second, terrorism, violence, cruelty and hate have taken many different shapes throughout history, and usually they try to find a way to justify their actions. Religions, political systems, cultures, all suffer from deep contradictions that in certain circunstances cause madness to manifest. The first victims are usually the people that happen to be under the rule of these twisted views of the world.

We won't defeat this nasty criminal ideologies by blaming the powerless irrelevant silent majority.