Batu69 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 VPN provider Perfect Privacy has had two of its servers seized by Dutch police, as part of an active investigation. Police bypassed the VPN service and went directly to the company's hosting provider, I3D, who complied with a subpoena requesting the hardware. At the time of writing, it remains unclear why the servers in question were taken. VPN services are a great tool for people who want to increase their privacy and security online. While most people use them for legitimate purposes, VPNs are also frequently linked to nefarious activity, as criminals prefer to stay anonymous online too. As a result, VPNs regularly come up when police investigate online crime. This is also what appears to have happened with two servers that were leased by VPN provider Perfect Privacy. A few days ago the company informed its customers that two of its servers had been seized by the police in Rotterdam, Netherlands. The authorities went directly to the hosting company I3D and the VPN provider itself wasn’t contacted by law enforcement. “Currently we have no further information since the responsible law enforcement agency did not get in touch with us directly, we were merely informed by our hoster,” Perfect Privacy says. Despite losing control over two servers, Perfect Privacy assures its customers that no personally identifiable data is present on the seized hardware. Like many other VPNs, the company maintains a strict no-logging policy. “Since we are not logging any data there is currently no reason to believe that any user data was compromised,” the VPN provider says. TorrentFreak reached out to I3D, who told us that they can’t comment on any specifics. However, the hoster stresses that it handles these type of requests in compliance with the law, while keeping the interests of their customers in mind. “When the Dutch police contact us with a subpoena, we work with them in a professional manner and ensure their request and our responses are in compliance with the Dutch law,” I3D informs us. “We think with the affected customer as well, for example by making temporary capacity available so the customer does not suffer extended downtime during the investigation.” Perfect Privacy confirms that they are happy with how I3D handled this issue. Two replacement servers were quickly put in place meaning that the seizures didn’t result in any significant downtime. In any case, it is good to see that the provider in question is being open about what happened. Unfortunately, that’s not always obvious for companies in this position. TorrentFreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 What does this have to do with fileshareing ? In Netherlands, downloading files for personal use is legal – it’s considered “fair use. http://torrentfreak.com/dutch-parliament-downloading-movies-and-music-will-stay-legal-111224/ The reason they took those servers don't have nothing to do with fileshareing and the OP dont even make clear what the accused even done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, steven36 said: What does this have to do with fileshareing ? In Netherlands, downloading files for personal use is legal – it’s considered “fair use. People who illegally share files commonly use VPNs and it isn't necessarily a Dutch violation they are investigating. It could be they are assisting the FBI with an illegal filesharing case where the dutch servers were used as the remote VPN because someone thought if the files were seen coming thru the Netherlands that no one would bother to try and track them since it is legal there. And maybe their scheme has backfired. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, straycat19 said: People who illegally share files commonly use VPNs and it isn't necessarily a Dutch violation they are investigating. It could be they are assisting the FBI with an illegal filesharing case where the dutch servers were used as the remote VPN because someone thought if the files were seen coming thru the Netherlands that no one would bother to try and track them since it is legal there. And maybe their scheme has backfired. Just saying. Only time I ever knew the dutch to do something to a VPN user was when one made a bomb threat and the CDN turned the guy in . You come up with this crap but you dont even know what this guy done? Do you have any proof of this ? . I hate when torrent freak post off the wall topics without even giving a link to the real source . Its about as informative as you're post telling me, it could of been this or that , I'm a realist ,i dont give a shit about it could of been this or that . i only want facts! Here is the source post . Quote Today our hoster I3D informed us that the Dutch authorities have seized two servers from our location in Rotterdam. Currently we have no further information since the responsible law enforcement agency did not get in touch with us directly, we were merely informed by our hoster. Since we are not logging any data there is currently no reason to believe that any user data was compromised. I3D is kindly providing us with replacement servers (many thanks to them!) so that we can continue to operate our Rotterdam location with all three servers soon. We will inform you in this thread if there is any new information available. https://board.perfect-privacy.com/threads/server-seizure-in-rotterdam.1575/ https://www.perfect-privacy.com/blog/2016/08/24/server-seizure-in-rotterdam/ Even the source dont know why they were seized. and this happened Aug 24th and still no update on why. When the Russians done this to the PIA witch are in the USA they stop hosting Russia . Millions use PIA and fileshare everyday and that VPN is in the USA and they said they shut down before they would log that got posted in privacy news, like this should of been posted.. You know how many hackers use VPNs and stuff for real crimes ? And you think the Dutch is worried about something like P2P witch is legal there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togijak Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I don't know what is going on with Perfect Privacy in the moment but I know thy have users out of the carding scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeMasteR Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The reason they took those servers don't have nothing to do with fileshareing and the OP dont even make clear what the accused even done. There is no mentioning of file sharing in the whole article or did i miss something? OP knows as much as the hoster itself, so what else could they make clearer? TF not only writes about file sharing, they write about privacy too, that's what the article is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, n0_risk! said: 4 hours ago, steven36 said: The reason they took those servers don't have nothing to do with fileshareing and the OP dont even make clear what the accused even done. There is no mentioning of file sharing in the whole article or did i miss something? OP knows as much as the hoster itself, so what else could they make clearer? TF not only writes about file sharing, they write about privacy too, that's what the article is about. I agree it dont say nothing about fileshareing, so thanks for repeating what i just said, but why is it posted in the fileshareing part of nsanedown's board? if its not about it.? If i or someone else posted it in software news or technology, they would move it and this is no different When i go to certain sections of the board i want too read stuff that pertains to it, some times I dont want to read something i just dont go in it. i want it to be in the right sections when i come to this section i like to read about file sharing . Too read anything about filesharing i ended having to visit other sites today ! I already know TF post stuff not about fileshareing .. they do this when they dont have nothing to post about, but seems others dont know the difference in privacy , netfilx and filesharing when it gets reposted here. Do they even read what they post or do they thank just because it came from TF everything is about Filesharing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batu69 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, n0_risk! said: There is no mentioning of file sharing in the whole article or did i miss something? OP knows as much as the hoster itself, so what else could they make clearer? TF not only writes about file sharing, they write about privacy too, that's what the article is about. Yes, I know this article not about filesharing but I have a reason to post all articles from TorrentFreak on FileSharing News forum. (Admin/staffs discussion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 No one told the members they could post off topic news from this site in this section so you're saying its OK for staff to post off topic news were ever they want but its not OK for members? .That's the problem when you have too many chiefs and not enough engines. I dont see this in the guidelines nowhere ? Now you guys just make new rules up to help you're own ignorance out? Because you dont read what you post you just do it too see who can get the most post on the front page . You staff who try post everything on the whole board and are in charge what normal members post too, should at lest try to lead by example and be a good role model. This Quantity before quality .to see who be the number one poster of the week sucks, you should at lest read what you post and not just be posting to be doing it. Also anyone who put personalities before principles and rules should not have board power , Whats the the need for discussions on whats on topic or off topic .Ether it is or it isn't it's that simple and making decisions on how things should be posted involves the whole board .we all put our pants on the same way every morning last i checked and we should be made aware so we dont bother to ask questions .I guess there no need to ask questions here ..if you going make a new rule up every time you screw up to make it OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I guess, things are getting tougher in the Netherlands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted September 3, 2016 Administrator Share Posted September 3, 2016 One, everything TF posts is either directly or indirectly related to FileSharing and freedom of sharing / free speech. Two, honestly, this suits either way. But we do not exactly know what is this all about, we can only speculate about it. In addition, we had decided some time ago that in most cases TF articles should go in FileSharing News. No rules are being created here for the benefit of the staff, this was decided some time ago, not for the benefits of us, but the benefits of members and forums, to prevent any confusion and keep things streamlined. I think, this whole thing is complicated unnecessarily here. Having said, we are always open to changes and we will look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardecl Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Probably after some people sharing illegal cat pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted September 4, 2016 Administrator Share Posted September 4, 2016 Thanks for all the suggestion guys. We had some discussions and have decided to move this thread to Security and Privacy News. As I had said, we are open to changes and suggestions and have implemented it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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