Batu69 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 User claims the Windows 10 upgrade is forced on his PC There's no easy way to cancel the upgrade, it seems We’ve told you recently that some users are getting the Windows 10 upgrade scheduled on their PCs without their consent, and it appears that in some cases, it’s quite hard to find a way to block this. The screenshot you see here was posted on reddit by a user who claims that he was asked out of nowhere to schedule the upgrade to Windows 10 on his PC. He swears that he never wanted to install Windows 10, so he didn’t click anything related to the upgrade (although the fact he Googled “how to print screen” made many believe that he’s not exactly a tech-savvy user), but the Windows 10 upgrade was still pushed on the computer. And now he ended up with this, a dialog that prompts him to schedule the upgrade to Windows 10 with absolutely no option to close or cancel it. “Note that the scheduled time can’t be changed after this,” the message displayed in the window reads. There’s no cancel or back button, no X to close the window, no nothing. The user claims that he tried right-clicking the taskbar icon to close the app but that doesn’t work, and neither does pressing Alt + F4. Killing the process from Task Manager might work actually, but he hasn’t yet said if he tried it or not. Even if he’s not the most experienced computer user, blocking the upgrade to Windows 10 shouldn’t be that hard and it raises questions as to how Microsoft attempts to boost adoption of the new OS, especially given the fact that there are plenty of beginners out there who could find it impossible to just refuse the upgrade. For the moment, the easiest way to stick with their current OS and cancel the switch to Windows 10 continues to be the freeware GWX Control Panel. Article source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonar Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Stop being afraid and upgrade to windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 57 minutes ago, Sonar said: Stop being afraid and upgrade to windows 10 Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarChild Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 CTRL+ALT+DEL? Maybe or Power Button and reset button All my PCs run Windows 10 except for my Netbook. So sluggish with Windows 10. You shouldn't be forced into an upgrade, especially if the PC hardware can't handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmil Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Have had dozens of clients similarly raped in the last week. There is no 'off' button in certain scenarios. Others DO get an opportunity to stop it via a different 'update option' screen. This is really irresponsible. I've got business clients that have custom apps written around Windows 7 and some others with weird or oddball devices (& their drivers) that don't play well. I've seen some 'fixed' programs not appreciating the new environment either - Photoshop to name one. I've got nothing against Win 10 - just let me roll it out when I'm ready. Hell, I'll give you the $110 for it when I want it... don't even care about free. Is that really too much to ask? This is the difference in Ballmer & Nadella. Ballmer was a buffoon at times yes, but he was a salesman @ heart and didn't want to offend or disenfranchise his customers. Nadella is a tech thug cum bully that evidently doesn't care what people want. Amazingly unprofessional behavior out of any company - esp. one trusted to handle some of the world's most complex operations with literally billions of installations. At least tell us this 'no choice' option was coming & how to professionally postpone/prepare/prevent if needed. I hope they're taking millions of extra support calls. Meanwhile, thanks for the extra $$ paycheck this month M$FT straightening out messes you've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 im in the same boat have had tons of clients call me this past week saying they woke up and windows 10 was installed without them wanting it. and most are business clients who needed windows 7 for the time being. bunch of bs if you ask me. nadella is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Sonar said: Stop being afraid and upgrade to windows 10 LMAO , Microsoft lost the Smart Phone , Console , Server , IOT , Car battles to everyone else and they cant give away Windows 10 for free so they have to force it on people with old hardware , Desktop and Laptops have made no real money since 2013 ...Apple and Microsoft giving it away for free and even failing at that is proof of why update old shit ? If its not broke why fix it? they cant force it on me I'm not dumb enough to install get windows 10 updates to began with .. if i wanted id just download the iso and install it. Windows Everywhere = Windows nowhere but on old dinosaur devices . Microsoft are just dreamers . 7 hours ago, davmil said: Hell, I'll give you the $110 for it when I want it... don't even care about free. Is that really too much to ask? Ill be glad when it cost money and not free anymore then if the fanboys tell me too install it ill tell them give me $110 and i will , Fanboys time are running short on trying to sell it too us for free unless Microsoft decides to extend it at the last minute. Windows 10 is the 1st version of Windows were pirates are even paying for it , they get you're money ether way thorough ads and data harvesting. they cant make no money from yesterday or today from selling it but they will make money from ads on it forever and that's why they want you on Windows 10 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 On 22/05/2016 at 8:14 PM, Sonar said: Stop being afraid and upgrade to windows 10 It's not about being afraid to install it... It's about seeing no good reason to do so. It's about understanding the inherent flaws with forced updates. It's about realising the inherent problems with cumulative updates. It's about its immaturity. It's about the horrible blandness. It's about giving Microsoft way too much control of users' PC's. And finally, it's about seeing the vast majority of Windows 7 and 8.1 users not wanting it either. Even when it's free! The only involved party that's afraid is Microsoft! Even their unethical upgrade methodology has failed to force, nag, trick, and bribe the bulk of Windows 7 and 8.1 users. Microsoft crowing "300 million devices installed" is just a marketing smokescreen to hide the true low take up rate. For a start, that deceptively large number includes every device still sitting in boxes in warehouses and retailers' stock rooms, and includes those who upgraded and then rolled back because they didn't want or like it. Perhaps we Windows-10-resisiters should start crowing "~900 million devices NOT installed". Now that's an impressive large number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 46 minutes ago, Karlston said: It's not about being afraid to install it... It's about seeing no good reason to do so. It's about understanding the inherent flaws with forced updates. It's about realising the inherent problems with cumulative updates. It's about its immaturity. It's about the horrible blandness. It's about giving Microsoft way too much control of users' PC's. And finally, it's about seeing the vast majority of Windows 7 and 8.1 users not wanting it either. Even when it's free! The only involved party that's afraid is Microsoft! Even their unethical upgrade methodology has failed to force, nag, trick, and bribe the bulk of Windows 7 and 8.1 users. Microsoft crowing "300 million devices installed" is just a marketing smokescreen to hide the true low take up rate. For a start, that deceptively large number includes every device still sitting in boxes in warehouses and retailers' stock rooms, and excludes those who upgraded and then rolled back because they didn't want or like it. Perhaps we Windows-10-resisiters should start crowing "~900 million devices NOT iinstalled". Now that's an impressive large number. differet strokes for different folks. all of my clients are happy with the (managed) upgrade so far. that is, a privacy oriented windows patching. those who declined my services tend to be most unhappy with Windows 10 and (usually) require my services to downgrade to the way their computer was before... but hey, you want to keep dealing with the same old problems just to keep your start menu and explorer? be my guest. you will see the light soon enough and i'd happily offer my services again when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 My problem on Window 10 is my driver audio,video,utilities is not installing & working correctly. specially my desktop coz my mobo is old not windows 10 ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, jango said: My problem on Window 10 is my driver audio,video,utilities is not installing & working correctly. specially my desktop coz my mobo is old not windows 10 ready. what do you mean "not windows 10 ready?" if it works with windows 7, it works with windows 10. in fact you can use windows 7 drivers in 10 no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, VileTouch said: what do you mean "not windows 10 ready?" if it works with windows 7, it works with windows 10. in fact you can use windows 7 drivers in 10 no problems not windows 10 ready because no download support for driver & utilities for windows 10, only windows 7 supported i already install windows 10 but i have problem in audio driver not working correctly - speaker & mic separate & also video driver not display correctly - hdmi even i uninstall & install stable from amd it keeps update automatically, & utility to control power saving solution cannot install. I suggest backup your system before upgrade to 10 so you can easily restore your working os, aomei backupper standard is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantazzo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Well what can I say, I was actually happier when I had Windows 10 installed than I am now when I have W7 installed... Last drivers for my laptop were only 8.1 drivers, but it was easy to find new drivers in the internet. Else... I don't know. W10 did feel faster and it had some features W7 doesn't have... Also with W10 my battery could hold up to 50% longer (~2-2.5 hours on W7 and up to 4 hours on W10). Sure, the privacy thing is there, but at this point, I'm starting not to care. I think I'll reinstall W10 later this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabrwky Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 This worked for me http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-stop-windows-7-or-8-from-downloading-windows-10-automatically/ Right here: http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/DisableWindows10.zip Stop or allow Win10 upgrade without breaking anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 6 hours ago, mantazzo said: Well what can I say, I was actually happier when I had Windows 10 installed than I am now when I have W7 installed... Last drivers for my laptop were only 8.1 drivers, but it was easy to find new drivers in the internet. Else... I don't know. W10 did feel faster and it had some features W7 doesn't have... Also with W10 my battery could hold up to 50% longer (~2-2.5 hours on W7 and up to 4 hours on W10). Sure, the privacy thing is there, but at this point, I'm starting not to care. I think I'll reinstall W10 later this summer. Last time i tired windows 10 was on my Gateway AMD witch is a re branded Acer they dont make real Gateway anymore it came with windows 8 and the only drivers i can find that work on it are legacy drivers even the ones Microsoft gave me didn't work right , so i had to disable auto driver updates meaning it will never support new games or even DX 12 with out buying new hardware after all the work blocking and tweaking windows 10 than my HHD went out and when I replaced it i put Linux on it instead . I also bought a new Windows 8.1 Dell Intel witch is really supported too update too windows 10 but really after i tested windows 10 compared to windows 8.1 with classic shell start menu and fixed it to start up on desktop i dont see no real benefit in it . Windows 8.1 gets updates tell 2023 and Microsoft Windows 10 is still in free upgrade mode they not really made clear about how many years will you get updates on windows 10 yet... I stayed on windows XP 10 years...I skipped Vista ,but I only stayed on Windows 7 a few years Ive been on Windows 8.1 since 2014 i never had much trouble out of windows 7 or windows 8.1 but when i upgraded too windows 10 on my pc with windows 7 i have as a spare and my Windows 8 machine i rolled back the old vista machine with Windows 7 to Windows 7 because it was slow with Windows 10 and on my Windows 8 machine it was too much issues with drivers to even be worth upgrading . So most likely I'll run Windows 8.1 tell i need a new pc or 2022 witch ever comes 1st on my new machine, windows 11 may even be out by then. The moral to this story you cant turn old hardware you're vendor dont soupport into hardware they support with windows 10 on it. Sooner are latter unless you plain on rebuilding that old dinosaur you need to buy a new PC . You're only putting off the inevitable putting things on it you're vendor dont support . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibranium Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 19 hours ago, davmil said: Have had dozens of clients similarly raped in the last week. There is no 'off' button in certain scenarios. Saw similar screens in other languages. Users are puzzled how they suddenly have this situation. They certainly do not want this free upgrade NOW since it would trash their specialized applications. Microsoft needs to stop this. It's pure shit. Get your bloody finger out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Quote How Microsoft's tricky new Windows 10 pop-up deceives you into upgrading Microsoft's new trick to coax users into upgrading to Windows 10 relies on changing behaviors the pop-up's instilled since December. This morning, the unthinkable happened: My wife, an avowed PC user who long ago swore to never touch an Apple device, started shopping around for a Mac Mini. And it’s all thanks to Windows 10. Or rather, the nasty new way that Microsoft’s tricking Windows 7 and 8 users into automatically updating to Windows 10. I adore Windows 10, but I’ve long been a vocal critic of the heavy-handed tactics that Microsoft’s been using to force people into the upgrade, all to hit a goal of migrating 1 billion users to an operating system brimming with freemium services and ads. The annoying “Get Windows 10” pop-up began using deceiving malware-like tactics months ago, but it recently received an overhaul that seems purposefully designed to confuse users who have been wearily slogging through the nagging for half a year now. That nasty change trick resulted in my wife’s beloved Windows 7 PC being sneakily upgraded to Windows 10 this morning. Sure, she has 30 days to roll it back to Windows 7, but she feels so betrayed—like Microsoft forcibly removed her control over her own PC—that she’s strongly considering embracing the Dark Side and buying a Mac, instead. The change In December, the Get Windows 10 (GWX) pop-up changed its verbiage in a way that mimicked malware: The only immediate options were to “Upgrade Now” or “Start download, upgrade later.” An offer you can’t refuse! The wording changed slightly since then, but the only way to decline the upgrade has been the same: By clicking the X button in the GWX pop-up’s right-hand corner and closing the window. Quote On a Windows 8.1 PC. Mostly full screen pop-up. No clear “No thanks” button, just download Windows 10 now or later. pic.twitter.com/RRoaFMST9r — Brad Chacos (@BradChacos) December 11, 2015 Earlier this year, however, Microsoft pushed the Windows 10 download out as a Recommended update. That means anybody using the default Windows Update setting—as you should be!—automatically received the installation bits and a prompt to install the new OS, which again could only be refused by exiting via the X in the corner of the pop-up’s window. Last week, Microsoft altered the GWX prompt, as ZDNet covered. On the surface, it’s an improvement; the box clearly states when your PC will be upgraded, and even adds a (still small and easily skippable) line that allows you to reschedule or change the upgrade timing. So far so good! But here’s the icky part: The redesigned GWX pop-up now treats exiting the window as consent for the Windows 10 upgrade. So after more than half a year of teaching people that the only way to say “no thanks” to Windows 10 is to exit the GWX application—and refusing to allow users to disable the pop-up in any obvious manner, so they had to press that X over and over again during those six months to the point that most people probably just click it without reading now—Microsoft just made it so that very behavior accepts the Windows 10 upgrade instead, rather than canceling it. That’s gross. And if you don’t find that small link to reschedule or cancel the Windows 10 upgrade—or, say, if the pop up appears while you’re away from your computer—your system will begin the process at the scheduled time. In other words, your PC can potentially upgrade to Windows 10 without you asking it to or explicitly approving the upgrade. That’s gross, too. Fallout and prevention PC users are already up in arms over it, and rightfully so. By now, every existing Windows 7 and 8 user has seen and declined the Windows 10 update numerous times. By forcing out Windows 10 as a Recommended update and changing the behavior associated with exiting the GWX pop-up, Microsoft’s actively striving to push the operating system on people who actively don’t want it. Worse, these under-handed tactics are encouraging Windows 7 and 8 users to disable Windows Updates all together, which leaves their systems more vulnerable to attackers who exploit security flaws. Quote Why I completely disabled all updates on my laptop, right here https://t.co/UbMT4ckZpw — Peter Skerritt (@PeteSkerritt) May 22, 2016 That certainly stops Microsoft’s nagging, deceptive pop-ups, but I’d recommend installing the free GWX Control Panel tool instead. It lets you remove and disable the upgrade prompts all together—though it’s a shame that you have to resort to third-party tools to keep your operating system from hijacking itself. Update: Several users have also written me to suggest Never10 by famed security researcher Steve Gibson as an easier to use GWX Control Panel alternative. Again: I personally use and love Windows 10. It’s great! But deploying these dirty tricks only frustrates long-time Windows users who have very valid reasons to stick with operating systems they already know and love. And thanks to the deceitful new update, there’s a very high chance that my wife will be a new OS X convert by the end of the day. You may have ostensibly achieved another Windows 10 upgrade to pad your adoption stats, Microsoft, but you very well may have lost a lifelong PC user who swore she’d never switch to Apple. Which means that I might have to learn how to troubleshoot Macs. Dammit, Microsoft. Update: Here’s some user feedback after I received after tweeting about the issue this morning. Quote @BradChacos Work at a repair shop. So many customers called complaining about how they hit the “X” as usual and got upgraded to Windows 10. — Trevor Darby (@MakingTrevenue) May 22, 2016 @Tihusky Apparently this is what’s up; https://t.co/LYSThfO3uE — Rachel Wülfe (@AberdorkUnited) May 22, 2016 OMG THIS LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME THIS MORNING! https://t.co/ZMYRCXUi6U — Ashley (@tokenblackchick) May 22, 2016 @BradChacos @getwired Not because “Mac is better”, but because of the heady-handed Win10 tactics, and current shitshow of Win7 updating. — Jim Gaynor (@jimgaynor) May 22, 2016 @pcworld @BradChacos Of the ~10 offices i work at, 4 PCs upgraded last wk. We use w7, so had to roll them bk to 7. Old PCs, ~2.5hrs ea — Greg Uzelac (@GregRexUzelac) May 22, 2016 http://www.pcworld.com/article/3073457/windows/how-microsofts-nasty-new-windows-10-pop-up-tricks-you-into-upgrading.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 10 hours ago, Karlston said: It's not about being afraid to install it... It's about seeing no good reason to do so. It's about understanding the inherent flaws with forced updates. It's about realising the inherent problems with cumulative updates. It's about its immaturity. It's about the horrible blandness. It's about giving Microsoft way too much control of users' PC's. And finally, it's about seeing the vast majority of Windows 7 and 8.1 users not wanting it either. Even when it's free! +1 In addition to the above, the most revolting thing imho is the new license system! A license for the hardware not for the user? i don't know how microsoft succeeded making users "swallow" this!!! it's ok now while it's free and hardware has no problems, but what will happen after the grace period? Do i have to call microsoft everytime i change my hdd, sound card or video card? Those who never opened the case of their computer would disagree, but time will come when this license system will create havoc for the others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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