Batu69 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 If you’re looking to grab Windows 10, there are a lot of versions to choose from: Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Enterprise, Windows 10 Pro, Windows 10 Mobile, etc. Now it looks like we can add a new one to the list: Windows 10 Chinese Government Edition. That’s not the real name – it’s called Windows 10 Zhuangongban, or “Windows 10 Specially-provided Edition” – but Microsoft really has made a version of Windows 10 for the Chinese government, according to a report in Chinese magazine Caixin. Ralph Haupter, Microsoft China’s CEO, told the magazine that through a joint venture with China’s CETC, Microsoft has already completed the first version of the specialized Windows version. This shouldn’t come as a major surprise, of course. Microsoft announced the deal and its intention to develop the China-specific software back in December. Quote Microsoft’s new Windows isn’t the only government-focused OS on the Chinese market. So what’s different about the Chinese government version of Windows? Haupter told Caixin that it features fewer of Microsoft’s consumer-targeted apps and services, while including more management and security controls, in accordance with the needs of China’s government. Haupter didn’t divulge exactly what’s been changed or how different the system looks from traditional Windows 10, but he did say that it retains the ability to run any Windows-compatible programs. Microsoft vs. Kylin? Microsoft’s new Chinese-government-specific Windows 10 isn’t the only Chinese-security-focused OS on the market. For years, China’s government has itself been funding and pushing the development of what is now called NeoKylin, a partially-Chinese-developed Linux fork. That software has finally started to see use in government circles in recent years, and a version is even being used to power China’s Tianhe-2 supercomputer. Can Microsoft beat out NeoKylin? On its face it might seem unlikely. But NeoKylin was itself partially foreign-developed, so neither OS is truly Chinese-made. And Windows offers the advantage of supporting a much broader range of software than Linux-based NeoKylin. Especially at Chinese state-owned enterprises, being able to use industry-standard software tools in Windows could give Windows 10 Zhuangongban a big leg up on NeoKylin. Article source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I have a feeling that this version is not only gonna be used by China's government.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Batu69 said: And Windows offers the advantage of supporting a much broader range of software than Linux-based NeoKylin. Typical Windows vs. Linux issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisam Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 As an "outsider" may I say that this version doesn't look me nothigh new. Actually, Windows has available THREE different "chinese" language packs: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese Hong Kong edition and Traditional Chinese Taiwan edition. I'm quite sure that by now these versions are quite extended in all China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/27/2016 at 11:28 PM, Batu69 said: And Windows offers the advantage of supporting a much broader range of software than Linux-based NeoKylin. 15 hours ago, pc71520 said: Typical Windows vs. Linux issue... Typical because most desktop software developers make software for the masses the masses dont be on Linux , More developers on MAC OSX than windows 7 because you have to use MAC OSX to make apps for IOS for the masses. The only people who try to make it look like competition is windows users because they have really nothing left to brag about unless you consider Microsoft losing 5% on windows in 2015 and not selling good since they made Windows 7 something to brag about and the fact most good programs on windows that Linux dont have cost money . Linux have most all of good free programs that windows have and many windows dont have at all. Quote Today in Linux news Stack Overflow published the results of their latest developer survey finding Mac OS X is more popular than Windows or Linux. http://ostatic.com/blog/kicking-korora-tumbleweed-report-os-x-over-linux Windows 10 is used less by developers than Linux, even to make software the reason being most legacy software on windows has been around for years nothing but minor code updates . I got bored of windows software updates way back in 2011 hardly anything new in years . Only a bunch of hype about how windows 10 will get this or that that the majority of people never want. And it dont matter if the Government of China buys windows 10 or not ..There civilians will just pirate it . Microsoft is disparate to brag about selling a few copies of Windows to some country that pirate there products more any other place in the world bar none. Something like 90% use pirate software .The people of china are like me they dont buy software . Wow a new version of windows 10 with China backdoors instead of NSA backdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Back to the OP Topic: On 26/3/2016 at 6:28 AM, Batu69 said: Windows offers the advantage of supporting a much broader range of software than Linux [or Mac OS X]. Therefore, Windows will still dominate among PC users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 4 hours ago, pc71520 said: Back to the OP Topic: Therefore, Windows will still dominate among PC users. 11 hours ago, steven36 said: UWP is Microsoft's answer to a troubling trend for the company. The focus of app development has shifted away from personal computers, where the popularity of Microsoft's Windows PC operating system gives the company a strong position, to more widely used mobile devices that run Apple Inc.'s iOS and Alphabet Inc.'s Android operating systems. Maybe if they convince developers to make apps for windows store they could have some real new development on windows but no one much is interested in making new legacy apps for many years on windows. If they have there way its going to become very much like Linux and you get all you're games and software though windows store only difference is they want developers to make one app that work on all there products . If windows 10 succeed the only Legacy O/S will be left will be Linux the way Microsoft is headed everyone will be using universal phone apps on there desktop . If they dont succeed and change everything over almost they will remain a boring platform that only has minor updates for software that was written years ago and hardly anything new ever again. Developers follow the money the money making new apps is on smart phone not desktop any more .You dont live in a world any longer were its just about desktop/laptop PC those days are way behind us . 1.O/S Windows 2. O/S iOS 3. O/S Android But the difference is even though windows holds the lead, but for how long? because no one much is buying PCs and /or windows for years but everyone buying smartphones for years, windows numbers are based on users not profit . Users that bought something years ago want earn you money again you must give them a reason to buy again and they been failing big time, in the end its not about what you want its about what the masses are buying and its all about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If Linux continues with a limited and/or poor support of software & hardware (i.e. drivers, compatibility etc.), users will still prefer other OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 hour ago, pc71520 said: If Linux continues with a limited and/or poor support of software & hardware (i.e. drivers, compatibility etc.), users will still prefer other OS. Linux has been growing every since windows 10 came out it has like 2 times as many users as before it came out. every day i read real people saying they made the switch regardless of what the Microsoft centered media says. Linux dont have nothing to lose its a really small market share and its small user base will remain . Microsoft is the only ones who stands to lose to the smart phones O/S . You cant take away something from something that dont have it . Only you can take away from those that already have it. Drivers and hardware for Linux are getting better every day with every new Linux Kernel that's released even Dell is starting to sell high end pcs with Ubuntu on them . Linux only has room for improvement . Windows only has the benefit of trying stay on top in a world were the majority were happy on XP . People are tired of change for the sake of change with more regression than improvement. With windows 10 came many Driver and compatibility issues go to any Windows help forum and read the zillion bug reports and see for yourself . Bugs were so bad in Windows 10 that Microsoft had to update its firmware in Microsoft Surface Devices and bugs are the reason there going to put off Redstone update 2 off for a whole year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compgen1534 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody feel like contacting WZor to leak this Win10 China Edition? Or if you know someone on Baidu Tieba that might do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 16 hours ago, steven36 said: Linux is a really small market share and its small user base will remain. Indeed, Linux was, is, and will always remain small when it comes to user base. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has often failed when it comes to hardware compatibility. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has often failed when it comes to software support. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has been so complicated that average users return to Windows and/or Mac OS. "PC users still prefer to have paid OS (i.e. Windows and Mac OS) than the free OS (i.e. Linux)." This is enough by itself to justify the failure of Linux when it comes to addressing the needs of average PC users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 41 minutes ago, pc71520 said: Indeed, Linux was, is, and will always remain small when it comes to user base. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has often failed when it comes to hardware compatibility. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has often failed when it comes to software support. It is not Windows and/or Mac OS fault that Linux has been so complicated that average users return to Windows and/or Mac OS. "PC users still prefer to have paid OS (i.e. Windows and Mac OS) than the free OS (i.e. Linux)." This is enough by itself to justify the failure of Linux when it comes to addressing the needs of average PC users. Why do you need too repeat yourself 3 times to try to justify using windows ? Linux users dont have a problem only the average user that that dont have the brains to figure out Linux has a problem. And really many distros come with way more than windows does pre installed even most kids could catch on to it really easy not very much has to be done via command line any more unless you just want to learn new things and learning is good for you, when people need to bow down to big money to use the internet i think about that song. some of them want to use you some of them want to get used by you some of them want to abuse you some of them want to be abused How do you tell people to install windows... with a straight face? Some people definitely love being abused. Big time. Last time I was on windows was like March 21st I really dont have to have to do the things i done on the PC every since 2001 I dont hate windows really , But I find many that dont use Linux when confronted with it . They put on there Windows excuse tee shirt and try to justify using windows to Linux users . If you was secure about using it with why do you need to justify it.? I have my reasons i use Linux but i dont need to justify it and im not even above using windows i do what I want when i fell like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batu69 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, steven36 said: some of them want to use you some of them want to get used by you some of them want to abuse you some of them want to be abused Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams Good song indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibranium Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Used by X or used for the purposes of X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november_ra1n Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Win10 Special Edition Is Now Windows 10 Zhuan Gong Ban Source: http://www.amaziness.net/win10-special-edition-now-windows-10-zhuan-gong-ban/ Translate to Chinese Simplified: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=zh-CN&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amaziness.net%2Fwin10-special-edition-now-windows-10-zhuan-gong-ban%2F&sandbox=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 On 29/3/2016 at 2:54 PM, steven36 said: How do you tell people to install windows... with a straight face? Some people definitely love being abused. So Windows users are abused, ah? No further comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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