Batu69 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Apart from giving its users more control over its features than any other web browser out there, another strength of Firefox is the browser's add-on system. Just like customization options provided by Firefox, add-ons give developers and users more freedom than any other browser out there (that is not based on Firefox code). The add-on system is under fire and big changes are upcoming, and not all of the changes are welcome by part of the Firefox community. Changes like the introduction of add-on signing, the multi-process feature Electrolysis, and concentration on WebExtensions will all impact the browser and the add-ons that are available for it at least on a temporary level. It is only natural that Mozilla wants to know how many Firefox users are actually using add-ons in the wake of the Electrolysis roll out. Quote We're interested in a few stats for e10s rollout: 1) what percentage of users have no addons at all 2) what percentage have e10s whitelisted addons 3) everyone else According to a report by Rebecca Weiss on Bugzilla, about 40% of all Firefox users don't have add-ons installed. Quote bcolloran just finished a cross-sectional analysis of users and estimated that approximately 40% do not have any addons installed at all. He said this is for all channels, but that release channel is not that different from the full population. The linked table cannot be accessed without requesting permission and it is unclear if permission will be granted if requested. According to Mrs. Weiss, the 40% value comes from all Firefox channels which would include development channels such as Nightly or Beta. What's clear is that these 40% won't be affected by the changes to Firefox's add-on system that Mozilla will launch in the coming months and years. That leaves 60% of users that may be effected depending on the add-ons that they have installed in their version of Firefox. Not all of those users will be affected considering that part of the add-ons available for Firefox are signed and compatible with Electrolysis. It would be interesting to know how many users are affected negatively by the switching on of Electrolysis and add-on signing. The question has been asked, but an answer has not been provided yet on Bugzilla. Article source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Even if its true and really know how accurate those numbers are and reason being some people don't like add-ons because they use extra ram . And a few addons with Electrolysis will work. Its going break so many of there best addons its not going to be funny. 50% of its users may as well switch to palemoon were at lest they can use a add-on with the old api or just switch to a Chrome type browser because Firefox keeps removing the only things it has going for it. Before its over with Edge would be a better choice Once they add Electrolysis to the ESR Firefox will be dead to me and i bet to many others too its a shame too I been using Firefox or a fork of it for 9 years for about a year i used Cyberfox because of there unwanted changes but starting with Cyberfox 43 it too has these unwanted changes so i switched to ESR versions of Firefox . Firefox ending up ringing the newyears in with like 5% marketshare there committing slow suicide and its already in ICU fixing to die . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty6100 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Not even ublock Origin? <gasp> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Trail Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I enabled e10s for some time and my addons continue to work fine, I'm not affected by the changes, so I welcome multiprocess in Firefox. I believe Firefox is moving in the right direction. It already has an adblocker built-in, it's just not currently enabled by default, only in private browsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Purple Trail said: I enabled e10s for some time and my addons continue to work fine, I'm not affected by the changes, so I welcome multiprocess in Firefox. I believe Firefox is moving in the right direction. It already has an adblocker built-in, it's just not enabled by default, only in private browsing. Keep thinking that once Firefox disables XUL, XPCOM, Addons many add-ons are going to break, many add-on developers have already stopped updating there addons over at GitHub they tell us there is no use to update something that Firefox is just going to break soon. Anyone that don't already make WebExtensions for chrome would have to re code there add-on to work with it and many simply want work as a WebExtensions API . Soon you will have the same type add-ons that work in chrome only if I wanted that id just use slimjet With Firefox 43 they broke one my add-ons already Add to search bar its already stated and 5% marketshare shows there not headed in the right direction in order to be headed that way they have be able to give chrome users some good reason too switch and chrome users already have WebExtensions. Copying Google chrome is not going to help the poor souls that runs Mozilla that don't have a clue since they got rid of there old CEO. Quote Timeline Firefox 43: Add-on signing enforcement in all Firefox versions. Firefox 44: Add-on signing cannot be disabled anymore in Stable and Beta versions. Firefox 46: The projected release version for Firefox Electrolysis (multi-process Firefox). Firefox 48: The projected release version for a stable WebExtensions release. It is unclear when classic features are deprecated. http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/23/mozilla-needs-to-focus-add-ons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namek Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, steven36 said: Keep thinking that once Firefox disables XUL, XPCOM, Addons many add-ons are going to break, many add-on developers have already stopped updating there addons over at GitHub they tell us there is no use to update something that Firefox is just going to break soon. Anyone that don't already make WebExtensions for chrome would have to re code there add-on to work with it and many simply want work as a WebExtensions API . Soon you will have the same type add-ons that work in chrome only if I wanted that id just use slimjet With Firefox 43 they broke one my add-ons already Add to search bar its already stated and 5% marketshare shows there not headed in the right direction in order to be headed that way they have be able to give chrome users some good reason too switch and chrome users already have WebExtensions. Copying Google chrome is not going to help the poor souls that runs Mozilla that don't have a clue since they got rid of there old CEO. http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/23/mozilla-needs-to-focus-add-ons/ I use Cyberfox right now, don't know for how long i'll use it. But Mozilla makes worse and worse decisions, one after another. And they want people to donate them. How can i donate to the project which goes downhill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sounds like another "Australis" moment for the (self-described) "champions of users' rights", Mozilla. Ummm... 40% use no add-ons means 60% do use add-ons. So Mozilla is going to potentially piss off 60% of its users? Wasn't Mozilla crying poor a few weeks ago and soliciting donations or they were going to go tits-up? Alienating up to 60% of their users when in financial strife is a damn stupid thing to do. Sometimes I wish they'd just leave the damn thing alone, and curb their anal need to keep changing things. And listen to their users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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