Batu69 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hint: it's all because of higher disk and memory usage One of the changes that Microsoft is currently working on for Windows 10 is the complete removal of the Control Panel, as the company wants to transfer all configuration options to the new Settings screen, which not only looks and feels more modern and fresh but is also touch-optimized. Needless to say, not all are pleased with this move, so they wanted Microsoft to just leave Control Panel as it is and actually let them decide what's best for everyone. That's indeed a pretty good plan and it clearly sounds like what Microsoft should do with an operating system that's specifically developed to tackle users' needs, but there's a reason why the Control Panel and Settings can't live together in Windows 10. To go dark anytime soon In a short tweet posted today, Gabe Aul, chief of the Windows Insider program, explains that keeping both the CP and the Settings menu in Windows 10 would increase disk and memory usage in the operating system, and that's exactly the opposite of what the company is trying to achieve right now. “Having two separate implementations means more code complexity and disk/mem usage. Getting to one is leaner,” Aul posted. Many of the features that were previously available in the classic Control Panel have already been moved to Settings, so you won't find any desktop personalization options in there anymore, for example. Instead, Settings becomes the one destination for everything, on both PCs and tablets, and soon absolutely all Control Panel items should be moved here too. Right now, there's no timing for the complete removal of the Control Panel in Windows 10, but it will certainly happen at some point when this features transition comes to an end. It could take a while to do that, but it's pretty clear that the traditional Control Panel no longer has a place in Microsoft's Windows vision. @billybobjoe2211 @brandonleblanc Having two separate implementations means more code complexity and disk/mem usage. Getting to one is leaner — Gabriel Aul (@GabeAul) October 4, 2015Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 all of the settings available in control panel are not in the settings menu. if they did that then okay. but otherwise they are idiots for doing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmdew Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 they said "many" of the features and when "all" of the features are in the settings then they will close the CP; so they are not idiots yet....careful reading provides a lot of clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRiM Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 they said "many" of the features and when "all" of the features are in the settings then they will close the CP; so they are not idiots yet....careful reading provides a lot of clarityIndeed. just too many people jumping too many guns and making too many unfounded conclusions as far as Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmil Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 For now you can still execute "control.exe" at the command line. I supposed they'll eventually remove this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The main reason the control panel is going is, with Windows 10, it falsely implies to the user that he/she has some "control" over their Microsoft's OS install, PC, bandwidth, internet connection, updates, privacy,...M$ are just protecting themselves from litigation in case someone sues arguing that a control panel implies the existence of user control. Something named "settings" doesn't have that implication. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrovic Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 We wondered some time ago and concluded that Microsoft might kill the Control Panel completely with future updates to Windows. Today, it became official. Microsoft wants you to learn the new Settings app and forget about other PC management tools.Gabriel Aul, who is Vice President, WDG Engineering Systems at Microsoft and the spokesperson for the Windows Insiders program, confirmed today that the classic Control Panel is about to die in the future: @billybobjoe2211 @brandonleblanc Having two separate implementations means more code complexity and disk/mem usage. Getting to one is leaner — Gabriel Aul (@GabeAul) October 4, 2015This is bad news for all users who prefer to use the classic Control Panel and avoid using the Settings app. Personally, I find the classic Control Panel app faster, more advanced, more suitable for mouse and keyboard usability, and better organized than the Settings app. The Settings app is slower and requires more clicks or keystrokes to change anything because it is organized into categories and pages. It also requires more scrolling because of the touch-friendly design and many of the settings are simplified, so some advanced settings are eliminated. The Metro controls used in the Settings app are not at all friendly for mouse or keyboard usage and even the colors are depressing. The Settings app was acceptable for touch devices, but for classic keyboard+mouse users, it is a disaster. Also, it is a very dubious statement that having the classic Control Panel will cause additional disk or memory usage. User interfaces do not occupy disk space or tax resources, the underlying code and the components determine the resource usage. It is not clear how/why this controversial statement was made. The classic Control Panel mostly requires a number of ActiveX components (and their Class IDs) to be registered in the Registry, but those components are not running until you open the appropriate Control Panel applet. So it is unrelated to system resource usage. The next major update to Windows 10, Threshold 2, is expected in November 2015. The next build for Windows Insiders might be build 10559. It is not clear when exactly the Control Panel will be removed from Windows 10 but we do know that the new Start Menu already does not have any link to open it. Microsoft is making the Settings app so simplified that it is quite possible that advanced settings which the Control Panel carries will no longer be available in the UI of the Settings app. What happened to "Personalizaton" is a good example of such a change in Windows 10 RTM.Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakdan Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 MS is getting worse and worse, day by day. Eventually they will sink. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty6100 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's not a big deal, IMO. With SIB++, I can use both the old and new. It's not hard navigating the Windows 10 way with settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HX1 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 For a basic user who never attempts any changes to the system... and people who have no knowledge of their systems I would say that the basic settings would be fine. For me.. the Control Panel is a necessity. The only agreeable thing to me would be to change the settings app to properly represent the same capabilities in the Control Panel which means a complete overhaul of this are.. AND it better not be able to be corrupted the way some apps are now, with no available fix. That would include ALL options for configurability of the system in detail. Just my honest opinion. EDIT: Especially the Small Icons View Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 is normal, they are now working with diferent devices and they need an UI that can works in any of these devices without having to make double work, and that is XAML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Glad i went back to windows 8.1 were i can easy access it with my 3rd party start menu or using the charms bar :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 http://www.nsaneforums.com/topic/253187-this-short-microsoft-tweet-explains-why-control-panel-has-to-go-in-windows-10/?hl=control+panelThis is posted in the forum stop trying to up the number of posts you got by posting duplicates *FACE PALM*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It doesnt say doesnt say there getting rid of control panel specifically they said there keeping one which one nobody knows. I want to keep control panel Im used to the control panel users hate change thats why all users want to stick to control panel that and its realistic try to go to your job and say hey tom i need you to go to settings and flip a switch there going to be like settings you mean the control panel lawls. The word settings is for the most part a mobile word (Yea hey bill check something on your phone please go to control panel there going to say control panel you mean settings). They should keep tghe word control panel for windows without tablet mode and when your in tablet mode control panel changes to settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerglines Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 It's not a big deal, IMO. With SIB++, I can use both the old and new. It's not hard navigating the Windows 10 way with settings.They're planing to remove it completely, you will use just the touch optimized crap menu no more control panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigaspace Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 This is a change I'm not going to miss at all. Never liked the Control Panel, it has its own annoyingly different views (Category/Icons etc.), it is slow to navigate and its windows were always larger than they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Server Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Technology changes daily, go with it or be left behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALTAGY Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Now i know later i will use 3rd party control panel until i start to use 3rd party system :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212eta Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Then, M$ will kill Windows.Finally, M$ will kill itself. :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Technology changes daily, go with it or be left behindVery true but it don't always change for the good ..You take Vista for example when it came out most everyone had XP boxes that didnt work right for Vista and most programs were not even compatible so I stayed Windows XP for 10 years tell Windows 7 witch is just a improved version of Vista became stable after SP1 .We need someone to make a open source O/S that can run Windows Programs that's stable then everyone would leave Microsoft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALTAGY Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Technology changes daily, go with it or be left behindVery true but it don't always change for the good ..You take Vista for example when it came out most everyone had XP boxes that didnt work right for Vista and most programs were not even compatible so I stayed Windows XP for 10 years tell Windows 7 witch is just a improved version of Vista became stable after SP1 .We need someone to make a open source O/S that can run Windows Programs that's stable then everyone would leave Microsoft .Maybe Google is waiting the right time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Technology changes daily, go with it or be left behindVery true but it don't always change for the good ..You take Vista for example when it came out most everyone had XP boxes that didnt work right for Vista and most programs were not even compatible so I stayed Windows XP for 10 years tell Windows 7 witch is just a improved version of Vista became stable after SP1 .We need someone to make a open source O/S that can run Windows Programs that's stable then everyone would leave Microsoft .Maybe Google is waiting the right time :)They already have the Chromebook they say there great for people who don't care about programs and just likes to surf and stream ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212eta Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Also, see this THREAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyyahblah Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Im just curious about this .... if these morons have decided to remove control panel and replace it with settings app for basic tablet and iphone retards that don't know how to navigate a computer, how are we supposed to access certain things that are avialable only via control panel and can't via "Settings crAPP" ...Prime example, device manager ..... which is in control panel, so with that gone will device manager now be seperate? What about user accounts to adjust UAC/disable UAC and other user related settings? What happens to the action center or the system tab for quick access to system restore, or even programs and features option when you need to add/remove windows components and not a stupid "uninstall app" via the settings menu. How will we do the most basic of tasks like that?You mean we don't need device manager anymore? To check out system specs, look at or update drivers, look for yellow triangles and make sure our system is running ok? What's going to happen to DM? Is it going to be added to the SETTINGS APP?I wonder if these morons are thinking this through or are just coding this O/S on a fucking surface pro tablet without mouse/keyboard. I'd really like to know what the hell is going to happen to these "BASIC" CONTROL PANEL functions .... They assume no one uses the CP?Just terrible, there are tons of things I can’t do with the Settings app or at least haven’t found, a few examples are:-Show/Hide hidden files-Manage installed programs-Generally any of the Advanced System Settings like Environment handles, System Protection, Remote, Startup and Recovery settings, advanced Performance settings-Proper Power options-Administrative tools folder-Any meaningful network configurations, specifically NIC configurations like enable/disable IPv4/6, change DNS settings etc-Properly manage sound settings and devicesAnd I’m sure there’s much much much more, those are just from the top of my head the ones I use regularly, in the build I’m currently running none of the above are available properly in the Settings app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbingStorm Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Remember its not what you want, but what microsoft wants now that matters. :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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