insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 My PC used to play these games spick and span when I had it but now it seems to crash my PC.Games:Half Life 2Black Mesa (Half Life Remake)Here's my PC:Windows 7 Ultimate x64AMD A4-53004 GB of RAMA few pictures from CYRI (Can You Run It)Black MesaHalf-Life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragdd Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 HiI suspect 2 possible suspects.- Check CPU and GPU temp when you play games.- But I think main problem is power supply unit that cannot give enough amperes on 12 volt line to videocard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 HiI suspect 2 possible suspects.- Check CPU and GPU temp when you play games.- But I think main problem is power supply unit that cannot give enough amperes on 12 volt line to videocard.What tools can I use? Also I'd like to add that Left 4 Dead which uses the Left 4 Dead Source base (2009) works like a charm regardless of the mode I am using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It feels like thermal issue. Check the thermal readings and also check your cooling gears whether they are working fine or not. The validity of the thermal paste may be expired, in that case you will need to apply new paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 HiI suspect 2 possible suspects.- Check CPU and GPU temp when you play games.- But I think main problem is power supply unit that cannot give enough amperes on 12 volt line to videocard.What tools can I use? Also I'd like to add that Left 4 Dead which uses the Left 4 Dead Source base (2009) works like a charm regardless of the mode I am using.You can use Core Temp for monitoring CPU temperature and GPU Z (with ASUS ROG skin :rolleyes: ) for GPU temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 It feels like thermal issue. Check the thermal readings and also check your cooling gears whether they are working fine or not. The validity of the thermal paste may be expired, in that case you will need to apply new paste.Hmm.. the guy who assembled this used the stock thermal paste that came with the APU. Its only been 5 Months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 What's the usual or what's the appropriate temperature for GPU and CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 What's the usual or what's the appropriate temperature for GPU and CPU?At normal usage below 500C for desktop PCs and at peak loads should not exceed 900C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It feels like thermal issue. Check the thermal readings and also check your cooling gears whether they are working fine or not. The validity of the thermal paste may be expired, in that case you will need to apply new paste.Hmm.. the guy who assembled this used the stock thermal paste that came with the APU. Its only been 5 Months.Thermal paste expires in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 What's the usual or what's the appropriate temperature for GPU and CPU?At normal usage below 500C for desktop PCs and at peak loads should not exceed 900C.Here's what I got, the GPU at maximum power rose up to 97 degrees Celsius (yes I can't do the symbols :( ) and the CPU went up to 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0veR Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Looks like GPU problem! 97°C is to much. When i play games my GPU max go to 70°C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 Looks like GPU problem! 97°C is to much. When i play games my GPU max go to 70°C.But, the GPU is IN the CPU? What do I do now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 But, the GPU is IN the CPU? What do I do now?Then the system isn't adequate for high graphics gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirri Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm not sure about Looks like GPU problem! 97°C is to much. When i play games my GPU max go to 70°C.But, the GPU is IN the CPU? What do I do now?I don't understand this... the GPU is IN the CPU. The CPU is attached to the main board but GPU can be integrated in the main board or attached in a VGA CARD.I agree with OveR 97ºC is very high. Be sure the fans are working properly. Time a go I've several hangs with my system and finally I discover that the fan attached to the VGA CARD was burned. Then I replaced it and it's working until today. A monitoring app can help you with this.BTW: I played HL2 in a system with less spec than yours (less CPU, less RAM, less GPU) without problems. I hope this may help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirri Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 But, the GPU is IN the CPU? What do I do now?Then the system isn't adequate for high graphics gaming.I think the system IS adequate. My system have lower specs and can run this game without hangs. The problem is "something" puts it's GPU at high temp. If the systems haven't enough ventilation then the problem appeared with playing videos, for example and it seems this is not happen.Best regards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avmad Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Are all your fans working? Make sure to clean out all the dust and gunk. Sounds like over heating, that will just shut off the pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 But, the GPU is IN the CPU? What do I do now?Then the system isn't adequate for high graphics gaming.I think the system IS adequate. My system have lower specs and can run this game without hangs. The problem is "something" puts it's GPU at high temp. If the systems haven't enough ventilation then the problem appeared with playing videos, for example and it seems this is not happen.Best regards... Do you have an APU too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0veR Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If you GPU is integrated in CPU then you must get better CPU cooler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mara- Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Those temperatures are very high. I'm not sure for your GPU, but for mine can go to 104°C max, and generality GPU can go hotter then CPU, but I would still check it out. I never sow my card near 90C. And the CPU is definitely high. It's should not go over 70. Fox example, my E8400 max temp is 72.4°C, so 80 is to much, and you're risking damaging your CPU. Check you fans for dust, and clean it thoroughly.Cheers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragdd Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 My advise, buy a better CPU cooler (like Zalman CNPS 9900 Max if it fits in you PC case and better thermal paste like Artic Silver 5).First remove old thermal paste with a cloth and some ether and then re-apply a rice grain of Artic Silver 5 on the CPU and with a credit card spread it over the CPU so it's even thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojet2011 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Bench the system with OCCThttp://www.ocbase.com/If this runs fine for an hour you will be okThere;s a littele bug @ the CPUTIN just disable otherwise you get a value of 127 oC;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 8, 2013 Administrator Share Posted July 8, 2013 For start, just try cleaning the PC and removing dust from it, including the CPU fans. Then see if it solves the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 For start, just try cleaning the PC and removing dust from it, including the CPU fans. Then see if it solves the problem.I did. All I got was a speck of dust in the fans, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanedown58 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 Bench the system with OCCThttp://www.ocbase.com/If this runs fine for an hour you will be okThere;s a littele bug @ the CPUTIN just disable otherwise you get a value of 127 oC;-)Did that. Both the GPU and the CPU lasted an hour with the GPU lasting 1 hr. 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Alright. Now you need to monitor your CPU uses when the system runs on fire. You can get the CPU uses by respective program in the Task manager. Look for the programs that uses the CPU more and post a screenshot (when your system is heating up) here too.Are you sure, your system isn't infected?You are running a repacked game - did you scanned it for infections before installing?What are your temperature readings while watching a full HD video without enabling GPU acceleration? Disable the GPU/hardware acceleration in your media player to run this test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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