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A Finnish company called Viralg is emerging with claims to have a high-powered new way of stopping unauthorized file trading on peer-to-peer networks.

The company, which took the top prize at a recent Finnish emerging-technology competition, says it has been working with BMG Finland to protect local music releases on file-swapping networks for more than a year.

The company's method involves piggybacking on modern file-swapping networks' ability to download from several sources at once. It mimics the digital signature of a desired song, movie or game, and then adds junk data into the download stream, corrupting the file.

The technology "mixes together files in P2P networks in a way that the illegal downloader will end up downloading useless garbage instead of real music, movie or game content," the company said in a press release outlining its technique. "Our...technology is capable of destroying already-shared functional files from peer-to-peer networks."

The company is entering an anti-P2P market that has already contributed much to clogging the biggest networks, such as Kazaa, with numerous "spoofed" files and decoys, making them much more difficult for the average person to use.

Companies such as the Loudeye-owned Overpeer have worked with record companies, movie studios and game companies for several years to protect files on the network. Loudeye claims that it can offer a 99 percent level of effectiveness in protecting its clients' files.

Viralg makes the same assertions, saying its technique is more effective than past versions. It has not divulged details about its service but says that it can artificially mimic the digital signature, or "hash," of valid files on a network so that the peer-to-peer client can't distinguish between the junk and good data.

The company is keeping a low profile for now, though it is seeking international clients and investors. Viralg's marketing director declined to give the names of the founders or executives, or to reveal the size of the company.

Finnish business reports have said the company is led by managing director Jaakko Happonen and founder Juha Natunen, and that its current clients include a "global game console producer," as well as local music and movie producers.

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This is such bullshit.

Now what:

1. Create an anti-anti-p2p tool?

2. Start a whole new type of secure network that blocks such activities?

3. Hope they screw up someone's copyrighted material with their program and they sue the shit out of them and try to shut them down?

4. Develope a way of securely tagging the files as 100% real?

5. Kill them all!?

such as Kazaa, with numerous "spoofed" files and decoys, making them much more difficult for the average person to use.

Thats why we have the fake analysis feature now! *BITCHES!*

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hmm, they can create junk to fool even the hashes? Damn, i thought this only worked for the old kazaa hashes.. <_>

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Is it even possible to change a file in mid-stream from one user to another?

I know myself and others use verifieds to determine legit files, but this sounds somewhat unreal :D

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Hmm, they also say that it "is capable of destroying already-shared functional files from peer-to-peer networks."

Wtf is that possible. That would mean u would have ot have access to modify their files and replace them with fakes good enough to bypass the hash marks and shit. :D ;)

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i think they're saying they're ganna flood other P2P networks with fake sources like they did kazaa. but instead of changing the file, they simply have the client say "yes, this fake file has the same hash as the requested file" (when it actually doesn't) :D

i dont know what the hell happened to our legal system, but, i know for a fact if that was me making apps for attacking networks (and not some RIAA/MPAA puppet) i would be in jail by tommorrow. one of these companies need to grow some fucking balls and sue those ass wads, would make a good counter suit for the Grokster/Sharman case ;)

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Companies such as the Loudeye-owned Overpeer have worked with record companies, movie studios and game companies for several years to protect files on the network. Loudeye claims that it can offer a 99 percent level of effectiveness in protecting its clients' files.

So they the companies might have to pay for them to protect thier files?

The company's method involves piggybacking on modern file-swapping networks' ability to download from several sources at once. It mimics the digital signature of a desired song, movie or game, and then adds junk data into the download stream, corrupting the file.

The technology "mixes together files in P2P networks in a way that the illegal downloader will end up downloading useless garbage instead of real music, movie or game content," the company said in a press release outlining its technique. "Our...technology is capable of destroying already-shared functional files from peer-to-peer networks."

Like I stated above, if they start corrupting tons of files they may end up fucking up someone's song, movie, or game who does not want this to happen. If they we're using P2P as a method of distribution and those assholes corrupted thier files, that could dramatically reduce the ability of thier content. By flooding the files with junk data that would alter the file and if they stated that thier file may be freely distributed with out modifications, THAT WOULD BREAK THE COPYRIGHT. Many people do use P2P for distribution legally because then they dont have to pay for hosting. Hopefully the screw up someones files that are protected and that person sues the living shit out of them and tryies to shut them down.

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i think they're saying they're ganna flood other P2P networks with fake sources like they did kazaa. but instead of changing the file, they simply have the client say "yes, this fake file has the same hash as the requested file" (when it actually doesn't) :D

i dont know what the hell happened to our legal system, but, i know for a fact if that was me making apps for attacking networks (and not some RIAA/MPAA puppet) i would be in jail by tommorrow. one of these companies need to grow some fucking balls and sue those ass wads, would make a good counter suit for the Grokster/Sharman case ;)

Good point. I think by mixing it all up with legit files, thier fake will show up as one of many sources for popular files. This starts a pyramid effect. If your downloading a file with many sources, one of them may be the corrupted file. So now a portion of your file is fucked. If you dont delete it, someone may download a corrupted piece from you and someone else. This will keep going on until the whole files is just a piece of corrupt data.

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Like I stated above, if they start corrupting tons of files they may end up fucking up someone's song, movie, or game who does not want this to happen. If they we're using P2P as a method of distribution and those assholes corrupted thier files, that could dramatically reduce the ability of thier content. By flooding the files with junk data that would alter the file and if they stated that thier file may be freely distributed with out modifications, THAT WOULD BREAK THE COPYRIGHT. Many people do use P2P for distribution legally because then they dont have to pay for hosting. Hopefully the screw up someones files that are protected and that person sues the living shit out of them and tryies to shut them down.

like i said, the shit's illegal, they're nothing but a bunch of spoiled rich hypocrits that think they can do whatever they want to prove a point. even if it screws up the hard work of millions of other legitimate users :D

Good point. I think by mixing it all up with legit files, thier fake will show up as one of many sources for popular files. This starts a pyramid effect. If your downloading a file with many sources, one of them may be the corrupted file. So now a portion of your file is fucked. If you dont delete it, someone may download a corrupted piece from you and someone else. This will keep going on until the whole files is just a piece of corrupt data.

i'm sure the devs could easily modify the hasing code to prevent that from happening. maybe a hash check for every downloaded 'chunk'? something for sure tho ;)

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I think thats why they stated "thier clients files". If the companies pay them to fuck up thier files on P2P, this would be legal. We'll have to wait for them to corrupt a non clients file. By the way thier taking, it appears that they plan to destroy all the files on P2P, and if they do I know someones gona grow some balls and file a lawsuit.

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its gunna be interesting to see the next form of filesharing. I mean, its sorta like the cat and mouse game right? Each one gets ahead for alittle bit and it just switches off. Kazaa and Nabster used to be #1 and look now. Its Bit torrent and edonkey. Everything is just shifting.

Bastards, i doubt they can really control or stop filesharing. :D ;)

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thier idea is illegal in usa federal law. most likely illegal in communist EU law too.

its the same thing as a DOS attack on a server or network. i believe its just a left wing elitist group trying to get money form the stupid riaa/mpaa. i wouldnt be surprise if one of the members of riaa/mpaa has a bribe kick back from this company. saddams and UN oil for food bribes and kickbacks.

its also called a type of spamming.

avg person and network will not be able to sue them.

do as dogg said in last option.

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:)

Since when was the EU commonunist?  :)

:)

western europe has been sliding towards communism for a long time. just look at how the EU was founded. not a government groups but a socialist workers group. they are anti freedom. a socialst government is a communist government. no difference. state own businesses and media controlled.

then there is the male organ on their coinage.

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western europe has been sliding towards communism for a long time.  just look at how the EU was founded.  not a government groups but a socialist workers group.  they are anti freedom.  a socialst government is a communist government.  no difference.  state own businesses and media controlled.

then there is the male organ on their coinage.

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congrats, you just won the crap talk award :)

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:) i thought i was stupid for a second

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Have you been smoking or something?

It is 4-20 ya know :)

Cool Beans

yah, it's Hitler's B-Day, time to celebrate. j/k (it is, seriously, tho) :)

4/20 is the funnest day of the year tho :)

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Have you been smoking or something?

he is not smoking anything, he is just listening to Fox news..... really they speak crap like that all the time :)

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