Nima Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm well aware about Romney's party policy. But what if Romney was different then what we think him as? What if Obama's aggression will ultimately lead to war? What if many of Obama's actions was only because of elections coming? I know this is all speculation, but Romney would wreak havoc is also a speculation unless we see him performing on stage. Obama is better for the world, but he is bad for the internet. Internet doesn't matter in front of real world situations, but I don't like Obama's real world tactics either. There was a reason why the surveys showed them 51:49 percent. Both of them had their goods and bads. Also, I personally feel he has had some actions that I will never accept. Hence I wanted change. I can't see him another 4 years. Few things can be fatal if he continues to do them and doesn't change things. O.T. What do you think about Iran's nuclear policy and it's stance? :) You are right, but these are not acceptable reasons to choose Romney, both parties' plans might change, even Obama's action might lead to a new war, we all do not know, and we should decide based on their actions in past, Obama's work in last 4 years were good, at least, far better than Bush's, and based on his works in last period, we think that he has higher chance to manage the country better than Romney; but yes, these are all speculations. Iran's nuclear policy has gotten a little bit complicated recently, the fact is that Iran does not have plans regarding using this feature for military reason as far as I know, I mean nuclear bomb and related things. They say that we told this many times to IAEA, on the other hand, IAEA says that Iran does not report correctly and regularly of what are they doing exactly in related facilities, in the other side of the world, Israel says that Iran is working on nuclear bomb and we should destroy it as soon as possible with or without help of USA or UK, at the same time, we all know that many countries are also working on using this for military reasons without anyone accusing them, for example USA or Russia (North Korea is an exception). Some says that they do not want we have atomic energy, even for peace. Their problem is not Iran's nuclear program, their problem is the whole country's governmental system, not directly religion, but the country itself and it's situation in middle east and most important, it's resources for oil. I'm not into politics and do not like it at all, so I can not comment wisely on such these discussions and the things I said are only my personal opinion and what I heard and saw and might not be the same as truth. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted November 7, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 7, 2012 @Ambro: Two things. I'm worried about poor Bradley Manning, for which the law you mentioned has been specifically passed. This can might well can be used against Julian Assange.And Obama's ghost writers. He is a great speaker, but I've heard endless number of times about his ghost writers. I'm sure all the public excitement only comes from the words of good writers.@Nima: True.Either way, atleast we get some hints on the ground reality. Honestly, your one paragraph makes more sense than almost couple of years of news I've heard and read. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted November 7, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nothing is visible here. I can only see a small dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 That's a valid point. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 IMO, the one compelling reason that spearheaded Obama's victory was the Osama Bin Laden slaying - this is something that no news channel highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Most of the forums I read on when politics becomes the topic, a heated bitterly argument would surely be the end point.But here, I see the most intelligent and mature people discussing the issues in a friendly-brotherly tone.Most opinions here makes more sense than the ones I heard on the news coming from analyst/commentators/politicians.If only all of you are the leaders of the world, then world peace would not just be a dream but a soon reality.Then, I see a world sharing not only this planet for everyone to live on, but also resources, technology and files (as in file-sharing).That if one president, will not share his copy of the file/game, ex. diablo III, he would be facing real war against all nations in the world. hehe! ;)I'm tired of wars happening based on oil resources, territorial boundaries and trade disputes. This would be a change. hehe!And sorry for trolling here. haha! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Most of the forums I read on when politics becomes the topic, a heated bitterly argument would surely be the end point. But here, I see the most intelligent and mature people discussing the issues in a friendly-brotherly tone. Most opinions here makes more sense than the ones I heard on the news coming from analyst/commentators/politicians. If only all of you are the leaders of the world, then world peace would not just be a dream but a soon reality. Then, I see a world sharing not only this planet for everyone to live on, but also resources, technology and files (as in file-sharing). That if one president, will not share his copy of the file/game, ex. diablo III, he would be facing real war against all nations in the world. hehe! ;) I'm tired of wars happening based on oil resources, territorial boundaries and trade disputes. This would be a change. hehe! And sorry for trolling here. haha! :D You got yourself a great heart my friend. The reason I try to make more sense is because I try and see life for what it is now days: one huge information war. When I talk about infowars.com, I'm not just saying it for no reason whatsoever, Im saying it because infowars SAVES lives. Ignorance can get a person killed and I don't know about you (seems your on the right path though) but I truly understand the concept of "Knowledge Is Power". We are all leaders, if not then we might as well just give up. Being a leader is about a persons attitude. We can take charge of our lives and a global raising of freedom will be the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myidisbb Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 dkt27 im glad im not the only one that notice the internet being under attack by barry. and to think the world poll said they prefer barry :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted November 8, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 8, 2012 dkt27 im glad im not the only one that notice the internet being under attack by barry. and to think the world poll said they prefer barry :( I didn't get that either. Kinda confusing about how 81% see Obama fit. Maybe because those people aren't directly effected by his (or more precisely his government's) actions. Or maybe they just don't care. Thinking about it, I saw no intensity of US elections here, unlike what we saw the last time. Everyone seemed, rather, disinterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 There was talks of voter fraud too....but that was all hush hush:http://www.infowars.com/voters-take-to-social-media-to-report-massive-vote-fraud/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 You got yourself a great heart my friend. The reason I try to make more sense is because I try and see life for what it is now days: one huge information war. When I talk about infowars.com, I'm not just saying it for no reason whatsoever, Im saying it because infowars SAVES lives. Ignorance can get a person killed and I don't know about you (seems your on the right path though) but I truly understand the concept of "Knowledge Is Power". We are all leaders, if not then we might as well just give up. Being a leader is about a persons attitude. We can take charge of our lives and a global raising of freedom will be the result. I agree with you and liked your post, especially the analysis you posted. A very short analysis but summarizes lots of information I used to find it hard to grasp. I don’t know if I’m on the right path, that is why I keep on praying to God and listening to you guys. Maybe my enlightenment will come that way and I could do my little part to contribute for that cause. But at the moment, I looked up to you guys exposing evil, fighting for freedom and standing up for others. I have great respect for you. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shought Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 As long as the discussion stays civilized this thread will remain open :)-----I myself think either way would have been terrible, but if I had to pick one it would be Obama. Some of the things Romney said, I mean... Facepalm to that.But still, the democratic system of America is terrible ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanon Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 As long as the discussion stays civilized this thread will remain open :) ----- I myself think either way would have been terrible, but if I had to pick one it would be Obama. Some of the things Romney said, I mean... Facepalm to that. But still, the democratic system of America is terrible ;) :stupid: I'm also not the one to say that Obama is the one President of the USA, but still, as far as puppets go, I too would also choose the one which performs better. I don't really think that anybody believed him the first time round that he would end all wars, c'mon, it's the backbone of America's industry! I think the second time round a mediocre Republican candidate would have beat him to a pulp. Staggeringly, they sent Romney, and he was, even for me as a strictly foreign observer, mostly clueless. Which brings me to the thought of an elaborate orchestration of Obama's victory. If you think of it, there were only so little ways he actually could win after the massive disappointment he caused. Yet, magically, it happened. The stars love Obama. :rofl: At this time I'd like to congratulate the people who write for him. I had a part-time job doing the exact same thing (though not for prominent political figures), and all I can say is, they are clearly masters of their craft. It takes a lot of skill to create an image of a man in front of the whole world, while that same world is watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 If only Ron Paul was elected instead. Mainstream media set a hoax out for the public for Ron Paul though, making loads of people think he could never make it simply by repeating over and over again, "Too bad he can't make it." Say something enough, people will start to believe it. So many people are in dire need to allowing their own minds to be receptive to new though challenging ideas in order to grasp the fuller spectrum of things. Learning never ends and understanding does not die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouchysmurf Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Ahh, if the world were perfect, I would be King, cloths would be illegal, (ever tried to fight naked?), and dumb ass copyright laws would not exist as they do now.But the reality is alot less dreamy. Yes, in the USA we DO get to vote for who we want...do we always agree? No, we do not.Do we ask ourselves.."Hey, what would the rest of the world think?"...no most of us do not.The bottom line is simple...We are not a very old country, in fact, very young compared to most others...But we do have that one thing that 3/4 of the other places do not have....FREEDOM.What ever you think, however you want to psychoanalyze it..that is simply that.Yes, we made mistakes, yes we will make more..you see, we are young. We have alot of time left to learn.Now, how old is your country? How free is your population? How long did it take for your people to enjoy liberties? What did that cost you?We had our dark history, where we murdered people because of the color of their skin...we out grew that crap.We had our poor choices, where only certain types of people and ONLY males made the choices for everyone else.We out grew that also.We too have religion, many types as it were, but we are not ruled that way either. I have seen how that goes...we out grew it too.So let me see....we have made ALL of your mistakes, and yet still picked our butts up out of the dirt and managed to carve out a decent life, all things considered.Yup, my country is filled with stupid people who do not know anything......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleudee Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I think it is good for him to have a second term in office, sometimes one term is not long enough to get all your policies working, the fruits may yet yield from the seeds sown in the last four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I think it is good for him to have a second term in office, sometimes one term is not long enough to get all your policies working, the fruits may yet yield from the seeds sown in the last four years. Obama gets 4 more years to fully wreck the planet Earth. Sometimes one term isn't enough time to royally fuck over everyone and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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