Comodo Web based AV scanner

[spasserfan]

Comodo now offers an online AV scanner build on the upcoming CAVS3 (Comodo anti virus/spyware) engine:

http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/scan/avscanner.html

[sirbeta]

Why do all these online scanners require IE?

[spasserfan]

Why do all these online scanners require IE?

Maybe because it is all those using IE that needs it :P

Post in wishlist on the Comodo forums to get compatibility with other browsers. Also remember that this has just been released, and I am sure that Comodo will add support for other browsers later

[spasserfan]

Just read on the Comodo forum that they are already working on supporting other browsers

[box]

Why do all these online scanners require IE?

Maybe because it is all those using IE that needs it ;)

Post in wishlist on the Comodo forums to get compatibility with other browsers. Also remember that this has just been released, and I am sure that Comodo will add support for other browsers later

That's a good one.

[Donkeyhootie]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

[leland]

When I tried CAVS2 which has never left the beta stage it was only good at killing my machine. I guess that means when we use the internet based version it will kill their server?... Anyway, it looked good the short time I was able to run it, but when I booted up the machine the next morning it would not boot; even after uninstalling it in safe mode. For once System Restore did come to the rescue! Maybe the online version is a way for them to debug before releasing something that buggy to users. At least I would hope so.

Leland

:D

[spasserfan]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

You are wrong. At the moment this is only capable of detecting malware, the removal option will come later and will be free. The CAVS3 will also be able to clean your PC when it gets released.

As for the $39, that is if you want an expert from comodo to remotely clean your computer (it is a human that does it not an AI), you also get a PC tuneup by an comodo expert (optimizes your computer to make it faster) and 27x7 LIVE chat with the experts to help you when you need it. You do not have to pay this to use any of their software, only if you want what I just wrote.

[shought]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

You are wrong. At the moment this is only capable of detecting malware, the removal option will come later and will be free. The CAVS3 will also be able to clean your PC when it gets released.

As for the $39, that is if you want an expert from comodo to remotely clean your computer (it is a human that does it not an AI), you also get a PC tuneup by an comodo expert (optimizes your computer to make it faster) and 27x7 LIVE chat with the experts to help you when you need it. You do not have to pay this to use any of their software, only if you want what I just wrote.

That's cheap 39 dollar for a whole year? I don't believe that... A professional like that makes 39 dollar in 2 hours!

[spasserfan]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

You are wrong. At the moment this is only capable of detecting malware, the removal option will come later and will be free. The CAVS3 will also be able to clean your PC when it gets released.

As for the $39, that is if you want an expert from comodo to remotely clean your computer (it is a human that does it not an AI), you also get a PC tuneup by an comodo expert (optimizes your computer to make it faster) and 27x7 LIVE chat with the experts to help you when you need it. You do not have to pay this to use any of their software, only if you want what I just wrote.

That's cheap 39 dollar for a whole year? I don't believe that... A professional like that makes 39 dollar in 2 hours!

If you click the link you can read what you get: http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/avs...re-removal.html

• Award-winning Comodo Firewall Pro Software
  
• 1 PC TuneUp -- Optimize your computer's performance & memory
  
• 2 Virus Removals - Complete Computer Cleaning
  
• 24x7 Live Chat Support
  
• Professional installation & default Firewall configuration
  

The firewall is free anyway, so actually you do not get that for those $39 :D

[shought]

Hmmmm, then I have to believe it. :D Well it seems like a hell of a good deal for people who don't know shit about computers. Only 24x7 live support for 39 dollar seems like a hell of a good deal!

[spasserfan]

Hmmmm, then I have to believe it. ;) Well it seems like a hell of a good deal for people who don't know shit about computers. Only 24x7 live support for 39 dollar seems like a hell of a good deal!

You are damn right, but it fits with Comodo vision, I think the only reason why this isn't free is because it is too costly to pay experts 24x7 answering questions by an indefinite number of users (professional or novice). I guess this filters all those out that actually does not need the service, but might ask questions just because it is free (if it were, I know I might just have done that ;) , but I guess their forum would also be a good place to ask :D ), on the other hand the $39 compensate a little for the money Comodo spent on making the expert available.

Actually Comodo is very honest why they offer their products for free (or services for almost nothing like the above or Trustconnect ,the latter because of the very costly server capacity needed to run the trustconnect service)

Here is why Comodo offer products for free (source ):

Ok – so now you must be wondering – "What's the catch? If these products beat comparable solutions from the "large" software companies - why offer them for free?"

Well we are offering them for free because, as a Certification Authority, our revenue comes from the online business community.

In fact, over the past seven years we've grown to become the world's second largest Certificate Authority for high assurance SSL certificates with almost 300 employees around the world thanks, in large part, to the online business community. These businesses can only grow if consumers feel safe surfing and shopping online. Unfortunately, in today's Internet environment, trust has eroded and so has online sales growth. We want to reverse that trend. The more people trust the security of the Internet the more they will shop online. The more consumers shop online – the more online businesses will be created. And there'll be more products and services we can sell to these growing businesses. More transactions means more need for "Trust" and Comodo is the company who is "Creating Trust Online".

That's why we developed these products for free distribution. So you will never, ever have to pay for renewals, auto updates or subscription fees (and we mean ever)!

So try it out. If you like it spread the word. As a Certification Authority, Comodo has a special responsibility to help protect consumers on the Internet. But we can do better with your insight and intelligence. Your input will help us come up with more and more ideas to make every PC safer. Like you, we're crazy about the net but not the fraudster nuts on it. And, so we're developing top line products every day to counteract every trick (of theirs) in the book.

So join the good fight and help us make the Internet truly safe for all users – from Grandma to the Grand Duchess of Poznon - by participating with us in our development efforts with your creative ideas, concerns and observations. We know they're valuable.

Melih Abdulhayoglu

President/CEO

Comodo

[Donkeyhootie]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

You are wrong. At the moment this is only capable of detecting malware, the removal option will come later and will be free. The CAVS3 will also be able to clean your PC when it gets released.

Good to hear this but why is it some deep dark secret?

Their help file says:

What Do I Do if a Threat Is Detected?

Comodo AV Scanner detects and lists any threats that are present on your system but is not capable of eliminating those threats from your system. If threats are detected you should take steps to remove them immediately.

Comodo offers the Malware Removal Service – a uniquely powerful combination of award winning software and professional remote assistance by security experts from just $39 per year.

I can't find anything that indicates that Comodo intends to eventually give away their removal service. Maybe I missed a message in the Comodo forum? Melih (Comodo's CEO) hints that removal will be added, but doesn't say it will be free. But I'm not privy to the secrets.

I just don't see that this does anything that a good AV doesn't do better at this point. !avast will find and remove rootkits as well as other malware for free for example. What more does CAVS do?

I already have software for tuning up my computer, even if I want to pay the $39.

Guess what I am saying is that this sounds OK for what it does, but it doesn't sound like a big deal or very useful to me. At least for now, you either have to know how to remove malware manually, or pay Comodo to do it. Am I wrong?

I'll wait for CAVS3 and the free removal deal, if it does more than a dedicated free AV scanner and remover.

[spasserfan]

Sounds like a lot of restrictions. Why not just use !avast or AVG with Comodo firewall? This is just a "scanner" not a "remover." It costs $39 a year for the removal service.

You are wrong. At the moment this is only capable of detecting malware, the removal option will come later and will be free. The CAVS3 will also be able to clean your PC when it gets released.

Good to hear this but why is it some deep dark secret?

Their help file says:

What Do I Do if a Threat Is Detected?

Comodo AV Scanner detects and lists any threats that are present on your system but is not capable of eliminating those threats from your system. If threats are detected you should take steps to remove them immediately.

Comodo offers the Malware Removal Service – a uniquely powerful combination of award winning software and professional remote assistance by security experts from just $39 per year.

I can't find anything that indicates that Comodo intends to eventually give away their removal service. Maybe I missed a message in the Comodo forum? Melih (Comodo's CEO) hints that removal will be added, but doesn't say it will be free. But I'm not privy to the secrets.

I just don't see that this does anything that a good AV doesn't do better at this point. !avast will find and remove rootkits as well as other malware for free for example. What more does CAVS do?

I already have software for tuning up my computer, even if I want to pay the $39.

Guess what I am saying is that this sounds OK for what it does, but it doesn't sound like a big deal or very useful to me. At least for now, you either have to know how to remove malware manually, or pay Comodo to do it. Am I wrong?

I'll wait for CAVS3 and the free removal deal, if it does more than a dedicated free AV scanner and remover.

Well CAVS3 is a fully functional AV software (actually it is antimalware software with built in BOClean functionality) and will be free CFP.

(...)

But CAVS 3 will be free right ? So I don't see any reasons not to have a web based scanner which can remove viruses.

of course.. removing viruses/malware is not easy for every malware.. we will have it in future.. (not too distant future)..

Melih

[spasserfan]

When I tried CAVS2 which has never left the beta stage it was only good at killing my machine. I guess that means when we use the internet based version it will kill their server?... Anyway, it looked good the short time I was able to run it, but when I booted up the machine the next morning it would not boot; even after uninstalling it in safe mode. For once System Restore did come to the rescue! Maybe the online version is a way for them to debug before releasing something that buggy to users. At least I would hope so.

Leland

:frusty:

Sorry missed your post.

The reason why CAVS2 never left the beta state was because Comodo was disappointed with it and stopped developing it. Instead they started completely rewriting the program. One of the reasons why CAVS3 has not yet been released is because Comodo really wants it to be fully functional before release, and they are planning a very short public beta period before they release the final version. Actually you can already scan with the CAVS3 engine within CFP3 (under the defense+ tab --> scan my system).

[Donkeyhootie]

OK, thanks for the information.

As I understand it, somewhere down the line will be a free online malware detector and cleaner.

I'm still not clear on the advantage of doing it online rather than using a free standalone malware detector and cleaner like AVG or !avast.

[eBait]

I think when that software comes out and Comodo makes one pay-to-get-both package I am getting that software. Paid. I like how these people operate.

[spasserfan]

OK, thanks for the information.

As I understand it, somewhere down the line will be a free online malware detector and cleaner.

I'm still not clear on the advantage of doing it online rather than using a free standalone malware detector and cleaner like AVG or !avast.

[spasserfan]

I think when that software comes out and Comodo makes one pay-to-get-both package I am getting that software. Paid. I like how these people operate.

[Donkeyhootie]

Guys, I'm not being belligerent, but I'm not exactly a neophyte either. Chances are I was doing programming when you were in diapers. And I'm trained to do picayunish examination of claims of software and defense stuff.

I guess I'm just supposed to wait and see if the Comodo stuff is better than that which is already available?

No one has yet explained why the new wonderkin Comodo stuff will be better than what already exists.

I'm trying to make a differentiation. Why is Comodo XYZ better than what is out there already?

[spasserfan]

Guys, I'm not being belligerent, but I'm not exactly a neophyte either. Chances are I was doing programming when you were in diapers. And I'm trained to do picayunish examination of claims of software and defense stuff.

I guess I'm just supposed to wait and see if the Comodo stuff is better than that which is already available?

No one has yet explained why the new wonderkin Comodo stuff will be better than what already exists.

I'm trying to make a differentiation. Why is Comodo XYZ better than what is out there already?

Well that is quite subjective what you think is best, you will have to try out the software to what suits you.

Also check firewall test: http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php

As you can see it is among the best, and the bug causing Comodo firewall pro to fail those very few test has been corrected.

As for CAVS3 since it is not released yet, and it therefore has not been tested yet, I cannot answer on that.

But Comodo intend to be the best and the ones to set the standard, and therefore I am sure CAVS3 will be a great program too (just lokk at the quality of CFP3).

[Donkeyhootie]

Lots of spin, but the bottom line is that there is no advantage?

Sorry to be so terse.

[eBait]

The advantage is that it is legal to use for free at all times.

[spasserfan]

As eBait said it is a full version that is free for ever.

Further more it is actually the best firewall in the test, as you can see it reached level 10+ as the only product. This is because it was the only firewall to pass level 10, and therefore actually is the only firewall to pass all tests.

The difference between Comodo and other security companies is that they actually listen to their users and implementing new features as demanded (no bloat ware since new features are optional like defense+, so actually you can customize the software to suit your needs, without having to fill up your RAM with unneeded stuff). The users is actually a big part of development, of course they are not writing the the code for the software :P.

As a result of the above Comodo is in the front when it comes to development and protection.

[leland]

When I tried CAVS2 which has never left the beta stage it was only good at killing my machine. I guess that means when we use the internet based version it will kill their server?... Anyway, it looked good the short time I was able to run it, but when I booted up the machine the next morning it would not boot; even after uninstalling it in safe mode. For once System Restore did come to the rescue! Maybe the online version is a way for them to debug before releasing something that buggy to users. At least I would hope so.

Leland

:P

Sorry missed your post.

The reason why CAVS2 never left the beta state was because Comodo was disappointed with it and stopped developing it. Instead they started completely rewriting the program. One of the reasons why CAVS3 has not yet been released is because Comodo really wants it to be fully functional before release, and they are planning a very short public beta period before they release the final version. Actually you can already scan with the CAVS3 engine within CFP3 (under the defense+ tab --> scan my system).

Thanks for this information. I was not aware they were disappointed with it. I will give it another chance once they release the new version. However as I learned last time I will have a good backup first just to be safe.

Leland

;)