Bolt_Gundam510 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 by ErnestoOver the past weeks more and more Comcast users started to notice that their BitTorrent transfers were cut off. Most users report a significant decrease in download speeds, and even worse, they are unable to seed their downloads. A nightmare for people who want to keep up a positive ratio at private trackers and for the speed of BitTorrent transfers in general.ISPs have been throttling BitTorrent traffic for almost two years now. Most ISPs simply limit the available bandwidth for BitTorrent traffic, but Comcast takes it one step further, and prevents their customers from seeding. And Comcast is not alone in this, Canadian ISPs Cogeco and Rogers use similar methods on a smaller scale.Unfortunately, these more aggressive throttling methods can’t be circumvented by simply enabling encryption in your BitTorrent client. It is reported that Comcast is using an application from Sandvine to throttle BitTorrent traffic. Sandvine breaks every (seed) connection with new peers after a few seconds if it’s not a Comcast user. This makes it virtually impossible to seed a file, especially in small swarms without any Comcast users. Some users report that they can still connect to a few peers, but most of the Comcast customers see a significant drop in their upload speed.The throttling works like this: A few seconds after you connect to someone in the swarm the Sandvine application sends a peer reset message (RST flag) and the upload immediately stops. Most vulnerable are users in a relatively small swarm where you only have a couple of peers you can upload the file to. Only seeding seems to be prevented, most users are able to upload to others while the download is still going, but once the download is finished, the upload speed drops to 0. Some users also report a significant drop in their download speeds, but this seems to be less widespread. Worse on private trackers, likely that this is because of the smaller swarm sizeAlthough BitTorrent protocol encryption seems to work against most forms of traffic shaping, it doesn’t help in this specific case. Setting up a secure connection through VPN or over SSH seems to be the only solution. More info about how to setup BitTorrent over SSH can be found here..Last year we had a discussion whether traffic shaping is good or bad, and ISPs made it pretty clear that they do not like P2P applications like BitTorrent. One of the ISPs that joined our discussions said: “The fact is, P2P is (from my point of view) a plague - a cancer, that will consume all the bandwidth that I can provide. It’s an insatiable appetite.”, and another one stated: “P2P applications can cripple a network, they’re like leaches. Just because you pay 49.99 for a 1.5-3.0mbps connection doesn’t mean your entitled to use whatever protocols you wish on your ISP’s network without them provisioning it to make the network experience good for all users involved.”Customers on the other hand like to fully use their connection, and don’t agree that traffic shaping is the correct solution. One reader commented: “If you pay for an internet connection, that’s what you should get from your ISP — an internet connection. Not a connection that will let you browse the web and check email, but little else. If an ISP has issues with the amount of data a customer is transferring, then the ISP needs to address that issue with that customer, and not restrict every user in one class of traffic.”I guess this battle will go on for a while and I would advise Comcast users to try setting up a VPN connection to get around the traffic shaping, other users who find out that they are throttles might try BitTorrent encryption first, that seems to work quite well in most cases.More details about the Sandvine application can be found here..Source: Torrent Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Can Fix IT Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 These corporate monkeys are getting bolder, time to take away their bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargas Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 i have comcast and dont have any problems seeding, uploading or downloadingEDIT: Yet. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokerrr Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have Comcast. If i have a problem with them i can always go somewhere to get another connection. I don't think they will like that..losing their customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Gundam510 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 i have comcast and dont have any problems seeding, uploading or downloadingEDIT: Yet. . .I have Comcast. If i have a problem with them i can always go somewhere to get another connection. I don't think they will like that..losing their customers.yea YET it depends on what area you live in that depends i think they are trying it out and like Jokerrr said i don't think they will like that losing their customers. but they brought it apon there selfs when they are such a small company to tell you the truth they are such a small company compared in the world they are steping on the toes of hackers ever where and will be willing to do any thing to go around them if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¿§ick or §ane? Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 i use comcast, and it totaly cut off my downloads. but, i think i found a temp loophole. aresglaxy.sourceforge.net is a p2p client that does bit torrent also. it downloaded the torrents that nothing else would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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