aum Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Rumors now flying about Project Latte Windows 10 users getting to run Android apps on their desktop is a rumor which broke earlier this week, and now we’re hearing further details of how Microsoft’s purported plans could pan out. Keep your salt shaker handy as ever with nuggets from the rumor mill, but Zac Bowden from Windows Central is one of the more reliable Microsoft sources out there, and he’s spilled a lot more info on how Project Latte – the apparent name for Microsoft’s great Android app scheme – could work. So yes, we now have a codename, ‘Latte’, and the idea is to provide Android apps via the Microsoft Store, with developers delivering them in the form of an MSIX (a type of Windows app package). That should facilitate Android software coming across with very little in the way of code changes needed – hopefully – which is obviously crucial when it comes to how many developers might make the effort, and Latte will seemingly be powered by Windows Subsystem for Linux under the hood. There’s also the apparent prospect that all this could come to fruition next year, so we might not be waiting long for Project Latte to be available. In fact, there’s a possibility it could go live with the second major update for Windows 10 in 2021 (with a reveal earlier in the year, of course). One of the sticking points could be Google Play Services support, which Bowden reckons is unlikely to be implemented with Project Latte, meaning that some key apps might not be delivered. Or if they are, they may be stripped of any Play Services components (working against that smooth and easy delivery to the Microsoft Store goal, with little work needed, as mentioned above – or potentially causing other complications). Question marks There are still a number of question marks over what kind of Android apps might make it across to Windows 10, then, and even though this project is apparently underway at Microsoft now, obviously remember this is just a rumor. And perhaps more to the point, it may just be experimentation – Project Latte may not work out, and might never see the light of day on Windows 10. Much the same as the previous effort, Project Astoria (or Windows Bridge for Android). That initiative aimed to do the same thing some five years ago, but ended up being canned (as the company switched its focus to universal apps). Right now, you can stream Android apps to your Windows 10 desktop using the Your Phone app, but that’s not quite the same as natively running them, of course, and the big stumbling block with that feature is that it’s only available for certain Samsung smartphones. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 They had Project Edison, Project Centennial, Project Astoria and Project Islandwood etc. already and they never went anywhere there been so much fluff from Microsoft and Windows Journalist its hard to believe anything they say tell you see it and what's the point unless they plain to bring back windows phone ? Maybe they want to do this because they making a Android phone to give the developers a place to work on Microsoft apps . But they will all be vetted by Microsoft and use Microsoft services and be in Microsoft Store and many Android apps won't work without Google Services and why would devs port phone apps to work with M$ services when even when they had there own phone devs would not make apps for it and they want be any way to remove ads? It will be up to the developers to port them and Microsoft has not had any luck with getting DEVS to do anything since they made Win32 . You can install Android without Google services but your limited to what apps you can use . Amazon has had there own version of Android for years and it limited on what apps you can use.Huawei try to do this for there own phones and it failed there selling there smartphone business because it no longer has Google Services . I think Windows Phone was one of the best phones OS ever made but without apps you dont have users and without users DEVs want make apps . And when you have a OS with fragmented apis like Windows has DEVS are only going to port apps to the one people use most and that's Win 32 api even Windows Subsystem for Linux lost potential . Google had a little success with it on Chrome OS but not much because it has a very small market share . Apple will most likely have success with IOS apps on MAC OS after some years but MAC OS needs these apps because most DEVS use MACS to make IOS apps and the difference is Google and Apple own the services these apps use. it would have to be fast and easy port or DEVs are going to treat it just like they do Windows Phone apps they hardly any DEVs left maintaining what little apps they have in Windows 10. Just more bloat and bugs based on a pipe dream .Microsoft been trying to figure out what to do with Windows store and UWP every since they lost the smartphone wars . They need to worry about making Windows 10 usable and stable they can't push out a small upgrade without having to hold it back so there users will stop calling it a piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Quote ... and Latte will seemingly be powered by Windows Subsystem for Linux under the hood ... Win10 running android apps through linux? 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mp68terr said: Win10 running android apps through linux? 🤭 Android Runs with Linux under the the hood so it's possible to do X86 but the problem is most Android apps are ARM now but some devs still do them for x86 But there this new Tech out for DEVS Run ARM apps on the Android Emulator . You can install Android Studio on Linux too. Google has a internal Micro kernel but its designed to run android . NT kernel is made to run windows apps . Subsystem for Linux is for developers and if they port Android to it will most likely be for developers. WSL is a pain to get working right even for DEVS just Google it and you will see so it's not something that would appeal to most Windows users they get upset when Windows 10 has bugs .It much more easy to just dual boot with some help from the Linux Community or just run it in a VM ATM. See here The new ARM-compatible Android 11 system images allow the entire system to run x86 natively and take advantage of virtualization technologies as usual. Mobile phones tend to have ARM processors; consequently, many C++ dependencies you might add to your app, like a camera barcode scanner library, are only compatible with ARM processors. This is a problem if you develop on a computer with an x86-based processor, as it would prevent you from running your app. Previously, if you wanted to get around this limitation and execute an app built for ARM on your x86 machine, you would have had to use an emulator system image with full ARM emulation. Due to the overhead of translating an entire system’s worth of ARM instructions to x86, emulator system images with full ARM emulation tend to run much slower than x86-based system images when run on x86 host machines. Additionally, emulator system images with full ARM emulation cannot take advantage of the hardware acceleration and CPU virtualization technologies provided by x86 processors. This technology should enable more developers to test with the Android Emulator. That said, we still recommend that developers publish both x86 and ARM ABI variants of their apps to achieve the best physical device performance and reach as many users as possible. Going forward, we plan to roll this technology out across a wider variety of API levels and ensure that it supports testing all use cases that a physical device would. Source: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/03/run-arm-apps-on-android-emulator.html If Android comes to Windows 10 like GNU Linux Dristros did it will be a calibration with Android OS . It want be just Microsoft.. if Linux DEVS didn't work with Microsoft they be no Linux images in there store but the one Microsoft makes. How many people install Android Studio on Windows to run Android ? Not many mostly only DEVS and Reverse Engineers DO most just use some shitty Android Emulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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