Karlston Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Windows could run natively on new Apple M1 chip – if Microsoft lets it Apple VP says Windows and Macs could work ARM in ARM (Image credit: Microsoft/Apple) In a recent interview, Apple's VP of software engineering, Craig Federighi, revealed that Microsoft's ARM version of its Windows operating system should be able to run on the new Apple M1 chip natively, but the possibility of Windows running on a MacBook would "really be up to Microsoft." Federighi raised the remarkable possibility in an interview with Ars Technica about the new Apple silicon, which has just been introduced on the latest MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac Mini. Microsoft and Apple have spent the better part of three decades dealing with compatibility issues, but the prospect of Windows running on a new M1-powered MacBook makes perfect sense. Microsoft has already developed a version of Windows 10 for ARM, and the Windows-on-ARM project has made considerable strides in recent years – though there are still plenty of shortcomings at the moment that have yet to be ironed out. At it's core though, ARM is ARM, whether it's in the Lenovo Flex 5G or the new MacBook Air, so Windows should have no problem running on Apple's new Hardware. The only question, as 9to5Mac points out, is whether Microsoft will allow it to happen. Microsoft's current license for Windows 10-on-ARM doesn't allow it to be used on Apple machines since they aren't preinstalled on them and the company has been rather quiet when asked about running Windows in Boot Camp mode on an Apple system. Windows on a Mac? Don't hold your breath Whether the issue comes down to the bitterness of the long-time rivalry or some technical reasons likely pale in comparison to the financial implications of running Windows 10 on a MacBook. After staying out of the hardware game for a long time – apparently learning its lesson with the Zune – Microsoft has been muscling its way into the hardware space with their very popular Microsoft Surface line of products. An obvious competitor to the MacBook line from Apple, Microsoft is ironically in the same place that Apple was back in the 90s when Bill Gates outmaneuvered Steve Jobs to make Microsoft Windows the dominant operating system in the personal computer marketplace by licensing it out to third-party PC manufacturers. Microsoft also clearly has plans for ARM as well, especially with the impressive performance gains and power efficiency achieved by the M1. It is much more likely to want to replicate Apple's success in its own hardware rather than piggy back off Apple's products with some kind of licensing deal. Windows could run natively on new Apple M1 chip – if Microsoft lets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If it's to run win10, looks better to get a rather cheap pc than a rather pricey mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The only option for now is to use Parallels Desktop, but if and only if they released a version which compatible with the Apple Silicon chips. Or, another viable option is to get Intel based Macs (even if it's 2nd hand one) which can still use Boot Camp and can run Windows apps via Parallels Desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 "Windows could run natively on new Apple M1 chip – if Microsoft lets it"... "use Parallels Desktop"... "get Intel based Macs"... Still don't get why one would get a mac to run win on it. Design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, mp68terr said: Still don't get why one would get a mac to run win on it. there's many reason for that. https://everymac.com/mac-answers/windows-on-mac-faq/why-run-windows-on-intel-macs.html https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-install-windows-mac/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, zanderthunder said: there's many reason for that. Had a look at both links. The 1st (Dec. 2006) says "From reviewing a variety of forums and blog comments, it seems that many Mac users are not interested in installing Windows. Those that are interested tend to commonly state the following reasons:" gaming, win-only apps, testing. Again, links are about using win on a mac, not really about getting a mac to run win on it. Wondering if some forumers are in this situation. The second link (Jan. 2020) points out the main question though: are macs the best computers for win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 18 hours ago, zanderthunder said: The only option for now is to use Parallels Desktop, but if and only if they released a version which compatible with the Apple Silicon chips. Or, another viable option is to get Intel based Macs (even if it's 2nd hand one) which can still use Boot Camp and can run Windows apps via Parallels Desktop. It want be able to run Native Windows even if they get it working in there Beta version it would be Windows ARM , When Apple demonstrated the prototype version of Parallels Desktop at WWDC 2020 they showed they had Linux ARM working in a VM not Windows ARM. Windows ARM like you said is only going to come out on OEM to get a copy of it would have to be pirated . Crossover 20 will run Windows x86 apps in M1 Macs without using windows . What would you call a Pirated Windows ARM on A MAC a HackinWindows 10? Quote According to the company, a new version of Parallels Desktop, which will be able to run on Macs with an M1 processor, is already in active development. Corel noted that the prototype software package for Apple computers with ARM chips was demonstrated by the Cupertino-based company back during WWDC 2020 when it launched a flawlessly working Linux virtual machine. Since then, the company has been gradually increasing the software functionality, preparing for the imminent launch of its release version. Were does that say anything about its going to run Windows? They only say Linux . since Microsoft ported most of there apps over to Mac OS already , like Office , Outlook , Teams and Skype , etc . Adobe also has mac apps for everything just like Windows has. Crossover will work out fine for what they dont have if your a gamer you want to stay clear of M1 Macs anyway or at lest have a extra PC to game on ,but you can do Game Streaming and run Games in Cross over on the New Mac . I got 3 PCs in here with me so if i had one of these new MACs i would just use a PC to do stuff it dont have , I have dual boot Windows and Linux . Apple will have VM soon alest for Linux ARM and M1 ARM Macs. If Parallels and VMware manges to get Win x86 running in a vm it will be with emulation like crossover have and it will be much slower than using native VM . VirtualBox has no plains to make one for M1 Mac . That the same reason they don't have VMs in Ipads and iPhones it can only be done as emulation . Croosover works OK in Linux but I don't know how good it is on the new MACs the video shows them playing a game not in full screen on Linux it works in full screen. Also to get Crossover working they had to install the beta version that is out for devs only so far, Big Sur 11.1 Beta that has improvements for rosetta 2 . Linux dont have very good Android emulation i tested different ones they all had caveats . Only it has good windows apps emulation with Crossover and Steam. In a few years once Apple gets all there stuff ported over to Apple ARM like there high end Macs they going to remove rosetta 2 and it want have anymore support for x86 Mac apps. Only way windows is ever run good on Apple M1 is M$ to supply images to use on ARM Chips . Since there going toward Windows as a Service and making Windows 10 Cloud OS that is Cross Platform there going sell as a service i don't see them allowing people to use Windows ARM on Mac unless they sell it as service . That one good thing about Mac OS it free with your hardware Apple support it as long as your Hardware is supported . it not sold at all . Just like Linux is free unless you want paid support . Apple makes a killing on Hardware so they can give you the OS .M$ is catching on By not making Images for there latest Windows versions leagl . Why would Apple expect M$ to make it legal to run there stuff on a MAC that means they would have to supply the drivers and everything? Apple never allowed you to use there OS legally on Windows PCs and Apple supplied the doggie drivers for Boot Camp for Windows to work on Intel based Macs ! Only version your going to get will be maybe Cloud OS if it dont fall trough were they can rent it to you as a service . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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