aum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Starting with just two projects - Baetyl and EdgeX - but eventually all code will be shared behind Great Firewall A Chinese Git-as-a-service outfit named “Gitee” claims it has struck a deal with the Linux Foundation to mirror its projects behind the great firewall. In August 2020 Gitee announced that a consortium of ten companies and Open Source China had chosen it to provide the collaborative and open facilities outlined in China’s 2016-2020 Software and Information Technology Service Industry Development Plan. Gitee is now considered China’s de facto Git service. While it is not clear why Gitee got the gig over its rivals, it is known that China is not a fan of GitHub and has blocked it more than once on account of the free-wheeling commentary that can be found alongside code. Which brings us to this week when Gitee announced that it has formed a “cooperative relationship” with The Linux Foundation that will see the Foundation’s projects mirrored to the Chinese service. The collaboration is starting with just two projects - the edge computing project Baetyl and the industrial IoT edge computing framework EdgeX Foundry – but Gitee says over time it will mirror all Linux Foundation projects. Gitee’s announcement, processed by online translation tools, says the new relationship “demonstrates the Linux Foundation’s recognition of Gitee in the domestic open source industry.” The Register cannot, however, find a Linux Foundation statement about the relationship. We have approached the Foundation for comment and confirmation. ® Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 They use Linux in China too it's the Official China Mirror of Linux Foundation https://gitee.com/linuxfoundation Recently, the Linux Foundation and Gitee have reached a cooperative arrangement and will gradually setup official mirror repositories for many of the foundation’s projects in Gitee in order to ensure that developers in China can have local access to projects hosted in the Linux Foundation. This will help Chinese developers to participate in its open source community more fully. In the future, more Linux Foundation projects will establish official mirror repositories on Gitee with the eventual goal of having most all projects with mirror repositories in China. The first phase of the official mirror sites on Gitee is edge computing project Baetyl and the industrial IoT edge computing framework EdgeX Foundry. Baetyl Baetyl is an open edge computing framework of Linux Foundation Edge that extends cloud computing, data and service seamlessly to edge devices. It can provide temporary offline, low-latency computing services including device connection, message routing, remote synchronization, function computing, video capture, AI inference, status reporting, configuration ota etc. Repository link: https://gitee.com/baetyl EdgeX Foundry EdgeX Foundry is a standardized interoperability framework for the development of industrial IoT edge computing. It is deployed on edge devices such as routers and switches for various sensor or other IoT devices and provides plug-and-play functions. The system can then manage these device and then collect and analyze their data, or export it to other edge computing applications or cloud computing centers for further processing. Repository link: https://gitee.com/EdgexFoundry What is Edge Computing? Edge Computing is a distributed computing architecture that moves the computing of applications, data and services from the network center node to the edge node. Edge computing decomposes large services that were originally handled entirely by central nodes, cut them into smaller and easier-to-manage parts, and distributed them to edge nodes for processing. Edge nodes are closer to user terminal devices, which can speed up data processing and transmission and reduce delay. Under this architecture, the analysis of data and the generation of knowledge are closer to the source of the data, so it is more suitable for processing big data. About the Linux Foundation The Linux Foundation was established in 2000 to provide support to the open source community through financial and intellectual resources, infrastructure, services, activities, and training. At present, there are over 400 open source projects in the Linux Foundation, with a code value in excess of US$20 billion. Among them, there are many projects familiar to local developers in China such as Linux, Kubernetes, Node.js, Jenkins and Hyperledger. The Linux Foundation has more than 1,500 corporate members worldwide. In China, well-known companies such as Alibaba, Baidu, Huawei, Tencent and ByteDance are members of the Linux Foundation. The Linux Foundation’s choice to cooperate with Gitee demonstrates the recognition of Gitee in the open source industry in China. Gitee will also take this cooperation as an opportunity to actively promote the development of the open source ecosystem in China and international collaboration, to accelerate development of the local open source ecosystem, and to provide local developers a higher and broader open source communication platform. Source The project is is about a month in and it's all fine and dandy as long as it's something the Chinese Government allows there people to use but if it not it will be ban from there git same as when stuff gets deleted from USA git sites . Most Git sites are Censorship as a Service Most recently seen on GitHub with Youtube-dl the source code to Youtube-dl is at Gitee but it not very useful for YouTube in China since Google services is ban in China . The generic extractor may work OK for some China streaming sites using it with something like XDM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 As far as the Linux Kernel china already has a Git mirror in Beijing this was made for China Jan 2020. https://www.kernel.org/beijing-git-mirror.html https://kernel.source.codeaurora.cn/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 chinese government is pathetic, they are afraid of people talking to each other, they block Github because it lets people comment on codes OMEGALOL 😆 " on account of the free-wheeling commentary that can be found alongside code." and linux foundation gave in to their demands which is more pathetic. they desparately are looking for a partner and who better than big brother china. they don't want capitalist Windows from the west xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 what you say is nonsense 22 minutes ago, Sylence said: and linux foundation gave in to their demands which is more pathetic. they desparately are looking for a partner and who better than big brother china. they don't want capitalist Windows from the west xD A bunch of nonsense Quote Microsoft has had a presence in China for more than 20 years, entering the market in 1992. Our founder, Bill Gates, had the foresight to establish an office in Beijing. https://news.microsoft.com/about-microsofts-presence-in-china/ Linux is not regulated by the USA Federal goverment like Microsoft is .Many Products made in China comes with Windows and other Software from the USA they capitalize on it just fine from what the USA Government allows . But when the US Government bans there Tech from doing business with them they have no choice but to adopt Linux . As far as I know all almost all Tech has adopted China and the ones that have not like Google wants too again . You want to rant about Linux having a virtual presence in China when Microsoft and Apple have had a physical presence 20 years there ? That shows what little you know about Businesses from the USA that make stuff over there because of there cheap labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Having presence in China is different than this matter, don't mix things up. China is specifically targeting Github to silence people and stop them from talking. and Linux jumped in and gave in to their demands instead. p.s childish insults don't get you anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Sylence said: Having presence in China is different than this matter, don't mix things up. China is specifically targeting Github to silence people and stop them from talking. and Linux jumped in and gave in to their demands instead. p.s childish insults don't get you anywhere. You act like Tech are not Businesses and they have standards when it comes to money. China Money spends just like USA Money does. Linux have more standards than most now with there new COC they will fire you for acting obscene or at lest make you go get behavior management therapy . They all gave into China 20 years ago if you want to do business you have no choice Microsoft make a Chinese version of windows 10 and XBOX for China they even showed them the source code . With Open Source people can make it themselves if they dont like the way it's made they can fork it. So what if Gitee is targeting GitHub ? So do Gitlab , Notabug and many others there nothing wrong with competition without it then you open up another can of worms antitrust lawsuits . I belonged to sites in Asia even China among others since 2007 many monitored by communist Governments they was no different than any other sites they had a set of rules you have to follow . When you go to a Git site you should be talking about the project in the topic your in , same as if you go to a warez site you should be posting and talking about warez .(There not social networks) conman sense really You think China should not have there own Tech and not use Linux like the west does ? Or they should use sites regulated by Governments in the west ? Your too late for this many Big Tech outfits from China belong to Linux Just like Microsoft and many others from the west belongs to Linux . China built the great firewall because they dont want there people mingling with people from the west unless it can be monitored by the CCP. The Linux Foundation has repos on GitHub for the west if they didn't like Microsoft they could move somewhere else .So no one is complaining but you and maybe the USA government. All the effort Microsoft and other Closed Sourced Tech Outfits spend making stuff for China is mostly in vain anyway only Government Regulated stuff is censored they have a open black market were you can buy anything from the west that is just like what we have. So nobody buys that stuff over there they buy imports. If you want to compare some company not giving into China to Linux it has to be a better example than Microsoft . --- The software giant has kept its business alive in the country by complying with strict local laws, despite the communist nation’s wide-reaching censorship. Microsoft arrived in China in 1992 and opened its largest research and development centre outside the United States. It now employs around 6,200 people in China. The ubiquitous Windows operating system is used in the vast majority of computers in China—despite Beijing promising in recent years to develop its own operating system. The company’s success has a downside, however, as its software is widely pirated. The important Chinese market, which is very restrictive for foreign firms, represents a drop in the ocean of Microsoft’s business, accounting for barely 1.8 percent of its turnover, president Brad Smith said at the beginning of the year. Microsoft’s Bing is one of the few foreign search engines operating in China—although it is far behind its local competitors Baidu and Sogou, which dominate the market. Bill Gates Microsoft founder Bill Gates has long embodied a model of success in the eyes of many Chinese people and his books are bestsellers in the country. President Xi Jinping visited the company’s headquarters on a state visit to the US in 2015, where he met with Gates and his wife. Today, as the head of his humanitarian Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the 64-year-old has the prestige of a head of state in Beijing Censorship and control China censors all subjects considered politically sensitive in the name of stability, and internet giants are urged to block unwanted content online. Refusing to comply with Beijing’s strict demands, American giants Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube, as well as Wikipedia and several other foreign media, are blocked by China’s “great firewall”. Microsoft, however, operates its professional LinkedIn network in the country by complying with the draconian censorship rules through a local joint venture. Skype and Teams, its other two big platforms, are also available in China. It’s not all smooth sailing though, with Bing temporarily taken offline last year, prompting speculation the search engine had been blocked by censors. Video games In 2000 Beijing halted the sale of all consoles because of their alleged negative effects on the “mental health” of young users, although they remained available illegally. After the ban was lifted, Microsoft in 2014 was the first foreign firm to break into the video games market in China with its Xbox One console. Windows In , 2003 China has signed up for Microsoft's new Government Security Program (GSP), giving the Chinese government access to the source code of Microsoft's Windows operating system software, Microsoft said Friday. The agreement was signed by Microsoft and the China Information Technology Security Certification Center.Mar 3, 2003 Also in 2014, the Chinese competition authorities opened an anti-monopoly investigation against Microsoft and its Windows software. Around 100 inspectors raided the group’s offices in four Chinese cities, confiscating files and questioning employees. When President Xí Jìnpíng visit the U.S. in 2015 of all places he visit Microsoft lol. Since China don't make Microsoft much money and they been there for over 20 years an they only turn over a measly 1 .8 percent of profits they have done way worse than 90% of the others from the USA there they may as well leave are you mad that Linux can make money from China but MS never could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 @steven36 it's about banning free speech, Linux community did a silly and pathetic move by accepting their demands. Github stays strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Sylence said: @steven36 it's about banning free speech, Linux community did a silly and pathetic move by accepting their demands. Github stays strong You don't have free speech on private sites even though platforms have protection against what people say . Your only allowed to say what they allow within there rules and what fits there agenda . It's like if you visit someone's home and they don't allow you to talk about certain things or a certain way they have a right to kick you out . It's Same as in a private work place you dont have freedom of speech talking to much can get you fired even. Rules that apply in public don't apply in private in the USA. That's why some in goverment wants to take there protections away . Once side fells they not doing enough to censor the internet and the other feels like there biased toward them . But both sides wants to take it away and be able to sue them based on what you say. But unless you live in the USA the 1st amendment don't apply to you just like the 4th one don't .The NSA is only legally allowed to spy on people outside USA. When the Riaa took down YouTube-DL they was citing German law and use a USA DMCA to take it down but the guy that make it is in Germany. So USA law don't apply to him. Other countries can already sue sites for not censoring there platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Still amazed how pathetic Linux foundation jumped in, not considering freedom of speech and gave in to China. people talked a little in Github, so what, made China so scared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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