Karlston Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 The Global Privacy Control (GPC) explained in 500 words The Global Privacy Control (GPC) is a new initiative by researchers, several newspaper organizations from the United States, some browser makers, the EFF, some search engines, and some other organizations to improve user privacy and rights on the Internet. Summed up in a single sentence, GPC lets sites a user connects to know that the user denies the site the right to sell or share personal information to third-parties. While that sounds an awful lot like a Do Not Track header 2.0, it is designed to work with existing legal frameworks (and upcoming ones) such as the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) or the European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). How does it work? It all begins with a browser, extension or app that supports GPC. Currently, that means using a development version of Brave, the DuckDuckGo app for Android or iOS, or browser extensions by DuckDuckGo, Disconnect, EFF or Abine. Brave has GPC enabled and without options to turn it off, other browsers, apps or extensions may require users to enable it first. In the DuckDuckGo Privacy Browser app for instance, it is necessary to enable Global Privacy Control in the app settings to use it. For users, that is all there is to it. The browser, app or extension adds the GPC information to the data that is submitted during connections so that sites are aware of it. The next step depends entirely on the site that the user connects to. Sites that don't participate will ignore the header, and everything remains as if the Global Privacy Control directive does not exist. If a site participates, it will honor the request and make sure that user data is not shared or sold to third-parties. Will the GPC become something major? Do Not Track was launched with much hope that it would change online privacy to the better, but it turned out that it did not. In fact, it could even be used in fingerprinting efforts. There is a chance that the GPC's fate will be similar. Right now, support is limited to a few extensions, apps, a single desktop browser with marginal market share, and some sites that participate. While some of the participating sites are major, e.g. the New York Times, it is a very limited solution at the moment. Mozilla and Automattic (WordPress) are also spearheading the effort but have not made any implementations at this point. Even if these two companies, and maybe others, would implement GPC support, it would still require major Internet companies such as Google, Microsoft or Apple to join as well, and for legislation in other regions of the world to introduce privacy bills, to avoid GPC becoming a Do Not Track 2.0 effort. Tip: you can connect to the main GPC website to find out if your browser or app sends the information. The Global Privacy Control (GPC) explained in 500 words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 It's all CCPA because of its opt out both have bad weakness . California version is just a state law it not federally backed and there not really doing a good job enforcing it too much other stuff going on there. It's like you can buy weed in there state legal but in my state you will go to jail. GDPR only Big tech can afford it and they just put up a bunch of smoke and mirrors every time they complain .You cant use there sites unless you opt in so its mostly useless . And the ones that can't afford it just block the EU. I switched over to a vpn IP in the EU today 1st thing i noticed was it makes you opt in when went to Google not signed in it change the language to not English and 2nd thing i noticed was me being blocked by a USA site because of the GDPR. so i switch back to North America were they dont block sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Quote Brave has GPC enabled and without options to turn it off, other browsers, apps or extensions may require users to enable it first. In the DuckDuckGo Privacy Browser app for instance, it is necessary to enable Global Privacy Control in the app settings to use it. Tried the link with the latest vivaldi snapshot: Good news, GPC signal detected. Tried the link with the latest brave: GPC signal not detected. Tried the link with the latest waterfox classic: GPC signal not detected. Tried the link with the latest palemoon: GPC signal not detected. (linux x64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, mp68terr said: Tried the link with the latest vivaldi snapshot: Good news, GPC signal detected. Tried the link with the latest brave classic: GPC signal not detected. Its not legally biding no how it dont have any legal backing outside the state of California and the few things that have it. . Quote During the initial experimental phase, the GPC signal is not intended to convey legally binding requests; it is instead intended as way to test effective protocols for communicating and complying with user requests to stop the sale or sharing of their personal information. https://globalprivacycontrol.github.io/gpc-spec/#legal-effects its not working in Brave stable because they not enabled it yet it only in nightly https://brave.com/global-privacy-control/ DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials Desktop Browser Extension has it for all browsers but i doubt palemoon has it because they have very little support for addons.but you have to turn it on in settings . DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials Desktop Browser Extension Download DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials for Chrome, Firefox or Brave (we're still working on updating our Safari extension), or update to version 2020.10.2 or newer. Once installed, click the extension's icon in your browser's toolbar. Click the cog icon at the top right and select "Settings". In the "Global Privacy Control" section, enable the setting. Once installed, you can test whether the GPC setting is working by going to https://global-privacy-control.glitch.me/ and checking the "Client-side detection" section. https://spreadprivacy.com/announcing-global-privacy-control/ Working in Firefox. DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials Desktop Browser Extension gives Ghacks a C+ without it once it blocks 2 trackers from Google its upgraded to a B+ Nsanefourms gets a B upgraded to B+ once it blocks cloudflare tracking its hard to get and A because they need to know your privacy practices. The only sites that obey Privacy Essentials so far are mostly paywall sites so you need another addon to get around there paywall. But it dont do no good because sites like NYT uses Google adsense cross site tracking if they obey it but Google dont you still need something to block Google tracking. So sites joining it it's more PR than anything because they still paid from Google tracking you. You can see all this with DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials Desktop Browser Extension. Abine Join Privacy Essentials and when you go to Abine DDG blocks Olark tracker. so they have 3rd party tracking too. they use Olark for live chat it tracks you like most chat software does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 hours ago, steven36 said: Its not legally biding no how it dont have any legal backing outside the state of California and the few things that have it. . Indeed, without legal backing it's kind of useless. In point of fact I was simply referring to the article stating 'Brave has GPC enabled and without options to turn it off', nothing there about the nightly version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 hours ago, mp68terr said: Indeed, without legal backing it's kind of useless. In point of fact I was simply referring to the article stating 'Brave has GPC enabled and without options to turn it off', nothing there about the nightly version. The Info about Brave is at Brave it's just a 500 word article it only cover the basics from the GPC homepage . Just because Brave has it upstream does not mean Martin Brinkmann uses Brave or even went to company who join website to see what they say .Also lots more info on GPC at GPC's github page. Brave’s Implementation of the “Global Privacy Control” Brave is currently testing an implementation of the GPC proposal in our Nightly desktop and Android beta channels, and expect to implement it in our iOS browser as the proposal goes through the standardization process. And it's not kind of useless it's completely useless . There no way to tell what a site does with your data they can say they don't sell your data but still be selling it because it's all been encrypted , You never know there selling your data tell they get caught . Example of Google selling data Google's 'secret web tracking pages' explained https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49593830 Google Says It Doesn’t 'Sell' Your Data. Here’s How the Company Shares, Monetizes, and Exploits It. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and Example of Google selling data to the police and people protesting and not doing any good Google cashes in on law enforcement data requests https://www.axios.com/google-law-enforcement-data-requests-fees-056fdce8-cc61-496a-8f86-5f884d5fb4ab.html Growing group of more than 1,666 Google employees is demanding Google stop selling its technology to police departments, TechCrunch has learned. June 22, 2020 https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/22/google-employees-demand-company-stop-selling-tech-to-police/ Google giving far-right users' data to law enforcement, documents reveal https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/17/google-giving-user-data-authorities-documents-reveal Google is giving data to police based on search keywords https://www.cnet.com/news/google-is-giving-data-to-police-based-on-search-keywords-court-docs-show/ Ether you can charge them or you can give it to them for nothing heres why. Microsoft and the U.S. Department of Justice have asked the Supreme Court to drop a case that has pitted the two against one another since 2013. The software giant and the DOJ agree that the lawsuit is irrelevant now that Congress has passed the CLOUD Act, which clarifies the federal government’s authority when requesting user information held by U.S. tech companies overseas. https://www.geekwire.com/2018/microsoft-doj-ask-supreme-court-dismiss-case-involving-customers-overseas-data/ Examples of facebook Facebook's data-sharing deals exposed https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46618582 Facebook-Cambridge Analytica data scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal Examples of how GPC partners trough opt in , out out and even no choice At the same time, DuckDuckGo is not a nonprofit. It’s a business. The company says it makes money through advertising and affiliate revenue, such as sponsored links (syndicated through Yahoo!) that appear above search results. DuckDuckGo also gains income through affiliate programs with Amazon and eBay. And DuckDuckGo vows to make money while protecting user privacy at the same time – making it a natural fit for Apple Maps, which operates under a similar principle. https://searchengineland.com/why-duckduckgo-matters-313408 there really no such thing as Yahoo ads anymore they belong to Oath , Oath cut a deal with Microsoft so all these ads are Microsoft Ads. If dont want ads on DDG you have to go into there settings and opt out or use a adblocker. There better than most because they a opt out but they still better ones like Searx . NYT uses Google AdSense on top of having a soft paywall they try to force people to pay but i can get around it and many others https://www.wordstream.com/adwords-vs-adsense Only way to block is adblockers Brave Browser caught adding its own referral codes to some cryptocurrency trading sites https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/06/07/brave-browser-caught-adding-its-own-referral-codes-to-some-cryptcurrency-trading-sites/ This is opt in it's still better than most because it's opt in but it would be better if they did not fool with rewarding people with cryptocurrency in order to make money there better ones like ungoogled chromium. All these companies depend on some forum of ads , The vendetta these sites have against Big Tech really is not about privacy it's got to do with business and sites like Google keep them small and they never can grow up and be Big like Google or even close. They another movite besides privacy behind this and it's just a pipe dream unless they pass some kind federal privacy laws passed in the USA . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, steven36 said: ... does not mean Martin Brinkmann uses Brave or even went to person who join website to see what they say ... Brinkmann (the author of the article for those who did not check the source) is a journalist, as a journalist he should report true facts. If he does not know about brave than he should not write about it. Thanks for the numerous links/examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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