Karlston Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 HostsFileHijack : Microsoft Defender falsely reports you are infected if you try and block Microsoft telemetry and ads Editing your host file is one way to block Microsoft telemetry and Microsoft-delivered ads on Windows, and it turns out Microsoft is not too happy with it. The latest versions of Microsoft Defender for Windows 10 will detect if you are adding entries to your host file which would block Microsoft’s servers and refuse to allow you to save the file, claiming it is a severe security risk. In fact Microsoft will claim you are infected with “SettingsModifier:Win32/HostsFileHijack”, which a Google search reveals has caused several users to panic and believe they have a virus. e.g.: I do not have Malwarebytes installed, just Windows Security Defender complaining about SettingsModifier:Win32/HostsFileHijack. I also do not know if it’s related or not, but I got the popup right after launching the game SUPERHOT MIND CONTROL DELETE. I actually know what is the HOST file (a bunch of DNS to IP forwarding), so I was curious how the infection was modifying it which could give me information on what is wrong. So I “allowed” the threat via Windows Defender and strangely the file remained the same (with just the default 127.0.0.1 and ::1 to localhost lines). I then asked it to “clean” the threat again, and the HOST file content never changed. With Microsoft weaving Microsoft Defender ever more deeply into Windows, it does bring to mind the question of who actually controls the PC you are using. via WindowsLatest HostsFileHijack : Microsoft Defender falsely reports you are infected if you try and block Microsoft telemetry and ads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editing your host file is one way to block Microsoft telemetry and Microsoft-delivered ads on Windows, and it turns out Microsoft is not too happy with it. The latest versions of Microsoft Defender for Windows 10 will detect if you are adding entries to your host file which would block Microsoft’s servers and refuse to allow you to save the file, claiming it is a severe security risk.
straycat19 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 And now you know why previous versions of Windows will never die. People are worried about government takeover, they should be worried about Microsoft takeover, which is far exceeding that which Apple users have been subjected to over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 There are ways to live without m$soft or apple infecting our computers. Too much brain-washing by 'official' institutions so too few try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Quote Microsoft makes it difficult to disable Windows Defender on Windows 10 Our colleagues over at Deskmodder note that third-party software such as Defender Control should still work. Defender Control 1.6 working Windows Defender Disabled Win10 2004 build 19041.450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastrahl Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Like always, I'm pretty sure they don't know what they are speaking about. They flag telemetry, but it's a security feature about HOSTS file modification in GENERAL. Most AVs and security tools will alert for HOSTS file modifications, which is actually legit since it can seriously and stealthy tend you to phishing. If Microsoft wanted you to stop blocking telemetry, they could have easily bypassed HOSTS file blocking method by hardcoding IPs to reach for it. And no, HOSTS file isn't DNS to IP "forwarding" and the screenshot provides no information whatsoever about what actually tried to reach the file since it isn't showed at all ! It's an other layer 8 in the OSI model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Nastrahl said: If Microsoft wanted you to stop blocking telemetry, they could have easily bypassed HOSTS file blocking method by hardcoding IPs to reach for it. You likely meant "didn't want you to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 3:30 PM, Nastrahl said: Like always, I'm pretty sure they don't know what they are speaking about. They flag telemetry, but it's a security feature about HOSTS file modification in GENERAL. Most AVs and security tools will alert for HOSTS file modifications, which is actually legit since it can seriously and stealthy tend you to phishing. If Microsoft wanted you to stop blocking telemetry, they could have easily bypassed HOSTS file blocking method by hardcoding IPs to reach for it. And no, HOSTS file isn't DNS to IP "forwarding" and the screenshot provides no information whatsoever about what actually tried to reach the file since it isn't showed at all ! It's an other layer 8 in the OSI model. Ether security is built in the OS or it isn't people have been modding there host files for ages on Windows , MAC and Linux if it was not meant to modify it would not exist they would of replace it with something more secure . Or at lest make it tamper resistant were a layman could not modify it. And that part is true you can Hardcode IPs to get around host blocks but it never works with Firewalls like Windows 10 Firewall Control . False Positives is the oldest trick in the book to scare users , Malwarebytes flag the word Keygen so they changed the name of them. M$ spying crap is part of the reason ive not used windows 10 in 3 years . Microsoft also talked down on Windows 10 Firewall Control because it blocks telemetry out the box and can block there forced updates . The company you talking about don't have a very good track record , If they did maybe your M$ excuse would hold some merit. If they didn't care if you block telemetry they would give home and pro users a opt out like they do enterprise users then it would be no need for host blocks or firewall blocks !!! just like there never been a need for it on Linux unless you want block ads from the web but with using UBO i dont need to use host blocks at all. They the cause of people blocking it to begin with .I never trusted using host blocks because they can get around it i always used Windows 10 Firewall Control and really blocked it. That the problem with Anti-Trust laws in the EU they could care less about the consumer the EU Government is like M$ only business matters as long as business can achieve privacy its fine for them to use home users as lab rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 4:37 AM, straycat19 said: And now you know why previous versions of Windows will never die. People are worried about government takeover, they should be worried about Microsoft takeover, which is far exceeding that which Apple users have been subjected to over the years. If you didn't use windows to begin with you would not have to worry about a Microsoft take over . People use old windows tell they no longer 3rd party updates Windows 7 will pretty much die out as soon as it's no longer maintained by anyone just like what happen to Windows XP . They is no future in the past if your going to stay with Microsoft you may as well install Windows 10 now because in the long term the only alternatives is Mac , Linux or use a smartphone OS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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