dufus Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Here's What You Need To Remember: The APS is a select fire weapon, firing both semi-automatic and fully automatic, the latter at a rate of 600 rounds per minute on land. The rifle has a lethal range of about 100 yards on land. Underwater effective range varies due to the effect of pressure on the round. At 15 feet underwater it is thought to have an effective range of about 909 feet. The widespread use of combat divers, more commonly known as frogmen, led to the inevitable question: how do frogmen from opposing sides kill each other when they meet underwater? In response, during the 1970s the Soviet Union developed an underwater assault rifle, the APS, that is still used by Russia today. The unusual-looking weapon is so uniquely suited to fighting under the surface of the waves it rapidly degrades if used on land. The Soviet Union deployed large numbers of Spetsnaz commandos during the Cold War, direct action special forces troops with the mission of conducting deep strikes, diversionary operations, sabotage, assassinations and other operations in the event of war with NATO. The USSR had one Spetsnaz brigade of 900 to 2,000 troops for each of its fourteen military districts, plus an extra independent Spetsnaz brigade and air assault battalion. Spetsnaz troops were trained to infiltrate enemy territory over land, air and sea to reach their targets. Many of the target countries, including non-NATO nations as Finland, Sweden, and Japan, had long coastlines and were thus highly vulnerable to infiltration by enemy frogmen. The Soviet Union had a variety of mini-submarines that could operate in littoral regions, detaching themselves from mother submarines and quietly unloading frogmen off enemy coastlines. Soviet frogmen needed a weapon to ensure they could neutralize enemy frogmen underwater to complete their missions. Contrary to common perception, regular guns can indeed fire underwater. The main problem is that they are horribly inaccurate and their range is severely degraded passing through water. While frogmen still do carry conventional firearms, they are limited to combat on dry land. A handheld knife is a weapon that always works underwater, but the Soviets wanted a weapon that would overmatch anything an enemy frogman would carry to ensure their divers would go onto accomplish their mission. The Institute of Precise Mechanical Engineering in Izhevsk was given the task of designing an underwater firearm, and the result was the APS underwater assault rifle. Designed by Vladimir Simonov, the APS uses a gas piston like its land brethren of the time, the AK-74 assault rifle. Unlike the AK-74, it fires from an open bolt position to allow the barrel to fill with water. This is necessary to allow the ammunition to operate properly. The ammunition consists of 120-millimeter long 5.66-millimeter diameter steel bolts. The bolt uses the AK-74’s 5.45-millimeter casing but waterproof. Once fired, the bolt travels underwater in an air pocket created by the bolt’s flat nose, a process known as supercavitation. This, rather than the rifling of traditional guns, introduces stability to the round and some level of accuracy. The APS is fed from external box magazines holding twenty-six rounds each. The APS is a select fire weapon, firing both semi-automatic and fully automatic, the latter at a rate of 600 rounds per minute on land. The rifle has a lethal range of about 100 yards on land. Underwater effective range varies due to the effect of pressure on the round. At 15 feet underwater it is thought to have an effective range of about 909 feet. At 140 feet underwater, the APS’ maximum range is thought to be no more than thirty-six feet. The weapon has a self-adjusting gas system to ensure operation at various depths and to make sure the owner doesn’t have to constantly manually adjust as he swims into deeper or shallower water. The APS is a compact 24.17 inches with buttstock folded and 32.4 inches long with buttstock extended. Unloaded, it weighs a svelte five pounds, seven ounces. The barrel is 11.8 inches. Muzzle velocity for the 5.66 bolts is 1197 feet per second in the air. The APS is so specialized for underwater use it is not a very good land weapon. The lack of rifled barrel stabilization makes it inaccurate, with one source estimating useful accuracy is limited to just 50 yards—less than a quarter that of land assault rifles. Using the weapon on land also induces rapid wear of parts, as the weapon is used to water slowing down and buffering operation. The APS is an older design likely out of production, and Russia is reportedly seeking a replacement weapon. Meanwhile, the United States has never fielded an underwater assault rifle. This difference in priorities is a curious mismatch for two countries that maintain large numbers of SEALs/Spetsnaz/frogmen. Until such a replacement is fielded, the APS will continue to make Russian combat swimmers formidable adversaries underwater. source RUSSIAN UNDERWATER GUNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I thought underwater warfare was only a James Bond tale. I see no reason to shoot each other underwater too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 sadly , it,s big business ... and it is also real . Defense against swimmer incursions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Satellite Photos Suggest Russia Sent Trained Dolphins To War In Syria The Russian Navy’s marine mammal projects gained worldwide attention when a tame Beluga whale turned up in Norway in April 2019. That whale, nicknamed Hvaldimir, is believed to have escaped from a Russian Navy training program. There is another deployment of marine mammals that you probably haven’t heard about however. And this time to a war zone. Now evidence has emerged that the Russian Navy sent trained dolphins to support its war in Syria, deploying them to the naval base at Tartus in late 2018. I came across marine mammal pens in the water when viewing satellite imagery of Tartus. This is the port where Russia bases its submarines deployed to the war in Syria. Having seen similar enclosures at Russian Navy bases in the Black Sea and Arctic, it is clear what they are. The deployment is visible in historical satellite imagery, for example Google Earth, at 34°54'35.16"N, 35°51'46.46"E. I’ll provide the coordinates of each location so that you can explore for yourself. The dolphins would likely be used to counter enemy divers who might try to sabotage ships in the port. The marine mammals might also be used to retrieve objects from the sea floor or to perform intelligence missions. The dolphins in Syria likely come from a unit based near Sevastopol, Crimea, in the Black Sea. This base is at 44°34'53.12"N, 33°24'8.36"E. There is a possibility that the mammals involved were seals instead of dolphins, but I believe dolphins to be more likely. The enclosures appear smaller than some others used, however, suggesting their temporary nature The Russian Navy has deployed Beluga Whales to its special submarine base at Olenya Guba in the ... [+] H I SUTTON. INCLUDES MATERIAL © CNES 2020, DISTRIBUTION AIRBUS DS ALL RIGHTS RESERVED / PLEIADES SATELLITE IMAGERY | ACQUIRED THROUGH SHADOWBREAK INTL The other active Russian Navy marine mammal program is in the Arctic. There, Beluga whales and seals are trained. Hvaldimir the whale turned up in Norway at about the same time that the Russian Navy moved some whale pens to Olenya Guba submarine base (69°13'12.41"N, 33°23'4.72"E). This is where Russia’s spy submarines are based, including the unfortunate Losharik which suffered an incident in July last year. Beluga whales are larger and slower than the dolphins, but appears better suited to Arctic conditions. The agile seals are employed in counter-diver operations, similar to the dolphins are likely to be. Another base, closely related to the Olenya Guba one, is at 69°10'2.15"N, 33°28'39.77"E. And there is a breeding farm set up in 2017 at 68°49'8.53"N, 32°45'16.53"E, and another at 68°49'52.21"N, 32°48'20.94"E. We may never know exactly what the Russian Navy was doing with dolphins in Syria. They were only there for a few months, from September to December 2018, so it may have been a test. Or it may not have ended well. But there is no sign of the marine mammal programs slowing down. And the Hvaldimir incident in Norway occurred after the Syrian deployment, signalling that whatever happened in Syria hasn’t deterred the Russian Navy from moving its marine mammals closer to operational units. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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