dufus Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 PHE’s definition of the daily death figures means that everyone who has ever had COVID at any time must die with COVID too People living in England have become increasingly concerned in recent weeks, as Public Health England’s (PHE) figures demonstrate a relentless daily toll of more than a hundred COVID-associated deaths, several days a week. This is in stark contrast to the more reassuring recovery in neighboring regions (Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland), where there are days with no COVID-associated deaths whatsoever. One reason for this is due to a statistical flaw in the way that PHE compiles ‘out of hospital’ deaths data, rather than any genuine difference between the regions of the UK: ‘Linking data on confirmed positive cases (identified through testing by NHS and PHE laboratories and commercial partners) to the NHS Demographic Batch Service: when a patient dies, the NHS central register of patients is notified (this is not limited to deaths in hospitals). The list of all lab-confirmed cases is checked against the NHS central register each day, to check if any of the patients have died.’ It seems that PHE regularly looks for people on the NHS database who have ever tested positive for COVID, and simply checks to see if they are still alive or not. PHE does not appear to consider how long ago the COVID test result was, nor whether the person has been successfully treated in hospital and discharged to the community. Anyone who has tested COVID-positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures. By this PHE definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness. A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death, even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later. This is why the PHE figures vary substantially from day to day. For example, 16 new deaths were announced on July 6, but the following day, 152 were reported – today’s figure is 66. PHE data also confirms that more than 125,000 patients have been admitted to NHS hospitals for COVID, the majority being successfully treated and discharged. There are now fewer than 1,900 COVID patients in hospital. So, roughly 80,000 recovered patients in the community will continue being monitored by PHE for the daily death statistics. More and more people (who are mainly in the older age group) are being discharged to the community, but they clearly may die of other illnesses. This is why ‘out of hospital setting’ deaths remain constantly high, even though the Office for National Statistics data shows there have been fewer deaths than the five year average in the last three weeks, and NHS England data shows a moving average of 19 deaths per day in hospital. It’s time to fix this statistical flaw that leads to an over-exaggeration of COVID-associated deaths. One reasonable approach would be to define community COVID-related deaths as those that occurred within 21 days of a COVID positive test result. In summary, PHE’s definition of the daily death figures means that everyone who has ever had COVID at any time must die with COVID too. So, the COVID death toll in Britain up to July 2020 will eventually exceed 290,000, if the follow-up of every test-positive patient is of long enough duration. source Matt Hancock orders urgent review into daily death figures for Covid-19 in England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Well, i think it is international law that once you become a politician, you must surrender 89 percent of your brain matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennis Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 The stress induced on the population with all the negativity, gloom and doom perpetuation of the Covid illness is having a greater impact than the Covid itself. Stress, specifically distress, takes it's toll on everyone. It gives us high blood pressure and elevated heart rates. As the article suggests: It’s time to fix this statistical flaw that leads to an over-exaggeration of COVID-associated deaths. Yeah, statistical flaw. Believe that? If you do, PM me, I have a London Bridge to sell to you. Spiffy, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisPC666 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 since day one these "experts" from eeenglan are terrible at their statistics but so confident on claiming future "predictions" as if they're absolute and the rest of the world must heed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 the knew what they were doing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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