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The FBI still hasn't unlocked Pensacola shooter's iPhones


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The FBI is "currently engaged with Apple hoping to see if we can get better help from them so we can get access to that phone."

 

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What you need to know

  • The FBI says that it still cannot access the iPhone belonging to the Pensacola shooter.
  • This was revealed at a House Judiciary Committee.
  • The FBI says it is still engaged with Apple to try and get access to the phones.
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The FBI is still unable to access the iPhones belonging to the Pensacola shooter, despite their best efforts and overtures to Apple.

As reported by Bloomberg: FBI Director Christopher Wray told a House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, February 5. According to the report:

 

*-- The FBI has reconstructed an iPhone belonging to the shooter behind the December Naval Air Station attack in Pensacola, Florida, but still can't access the encrypted data on the device, Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday.

 

The disclosure came at a House Judiciary Committee hearing in response to questions from Republican Matt Gaetz of Florida. Wray said the FBI is "currently engaged with Apple hoping to see if we can get better help from them so we can get access to that phone." About a month ago, the U.S. government asked Apple for help unlocking a pair of iPhones belonging to the shooter. * U.S. Attorney General William Barr and President Donald Trump have also demanded more help from Apple in the case. The Cupertino, California-based company has said it gave the FBI cloud data related to the iPhones, but has insisted that it won't build a backdoor around encryption to access information on its devices.

 

Whilst it won't help the investigation, this is comforting news for privacy and encryption. The FBI's feud with Apple over the Pensacola shooter's iPhone has been extensively covered both here and in the wider media. The moral of the story seems to be that Apple can't assist the FBI, it won't assist the FBI, and it really shouldn't assist the FBI. At least not in the way the FBI is asking, by creating a back door to iOS encryption. Apple has already turned over gigabytes of data relating to the case that it does have access to.

 

This revelation does, however, cast doubt on previous reports that the iPhones in question, an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 7, can be unlocked by existing third-party methods, and that the FBI doesn't actually need Apple's assistance in gaining access.

 

 

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zanderthunder
12 hours ago, steven36 said:

This revelation does, however, cast doubt on previous reports that the iPhones in question, an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 7, can be unlocked by existing third-party methods, and that the FBI doesn't actually need Apple's assistance in gaining access.

I thought in the past FBI can get access to these locked phones through Israel's Cellebrite company, since 2016?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-30/fbi-said-to-work-with-israel-s-cellebrite-to-crack-iphone

Also in the past, they are also engaged in using Greykey by Greyshift , but only works up to iOS12.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3268729/apple-appears-to-have-blocked-graykey-iphone-hacking-tool.html

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6 hours ago, zanderthunder said:

I thought in the past FBI can get access to these locked phones through Israel's Cellebrite company, since 2016?

As far as i know they still never  got into the Sutherland Springs shooter's phone ether

 

After 2 years FBI still trying to crack Sutherland Springs shooter's phone

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"It's hooked up to a number of different devices which automatically continue to try to get into the phone. That's been going on 24 hours a day since Sutherland Springs, and we still cannot get into that phone," Combs explains. He says access to that digital data is key in kidnapping, child pornography, terrorism and mass shooting attacks.

Source: https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/after-2-years-fbi-still-trying-to-crack-sutherland-springs-shooters-phone

 

So i dont think there always successful  none of  that matters as long as Apple want help them by putting a back door in the phone . If it was easy why would they want a backdoor? :lmao:

 

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Apple stood its ground and said it wouldn't create a backdoor for iOS but would help as much as it could without crossing that line.

Source: https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/05/fbi-apple-pensacola-case-update/

 

If they ever get there way and the U.S. Goverment  gets known backdoors  that would be the death of  made in the USA software  sales  overseas  . I dont use much  proprietary stuff no way . I never owned  a Apple device  , they for people that have more money than they have sense the reason they so many iPhones in North America the Internet provider lease to own them they dont  flat out pay for them  they just charge  them so much a month for them on there internet bill  they never get them paid for because as soon as it's almost paid off they trade it in for a new one and redo the lease. I'm not a sucker i dont need  the internet everywhere I go. If I'm away from home my dumb burner cell phone works fine  to make phone calls.

 

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