Uninstalling Paint will soon be possible

[Karlston]

Uninstalling Paint will soon be possible

Initially destined to be replaced with Paint 3D and shift into to the Microsoft Store; Microsoft will soon make it possible to uninstall Paint from Windows 10.

 

In the latest Windows Insider Build that was released to Insiders of branch 20H1; users noticed that Paint is no longer a system component, but an optional feature component.

 

The feature is evidently still in the early stages of development, as uninstalling Paint currently yields no effect in Build 18956.

 

Other changes to Paint in the Windows 20 May 2019 Update include accessibility improvements, as well as introducing the possibility of using the program with the keyboard.

 

While we can see the point of Windows Server not needing Paint pre-installed, I suspect very few users will take Microsoft up on their offer of ditching the much-beloved application.

 

 

 

Source: Uninstalling Paint will soon be possible  (MSPoweruser)

[BimBamSmash]

So much effort to retire this old gem. Either they are desperate to part with all Win32 apps, or they wish to push users to its successor, Paint 3D.

 

Paint 3D is a good respectable app. Lots of cool new features all around. But I think much of the new bits are of no use for an average user. Paint 3D is also unnecessarily complex (and often times frustrating) to use for basic doodling, quick annotations or edits. There was never the need to change it this much to justify the transition from win32 to UWP.

[steven36]

We just got a new one on Linux called Drawing It's GTK

https://maoschanz.github.io/drawing/

 

Kolourpaint has been around for years but it's KDE so it requires KDE dependencies

 

Microsoft Paint 3D is a refresh of Microsoft Paint it can still do what Microsoft Paint did and more.

 

Open Source web-based clone of Microsoft Paint

https://jspaint.app/

 

Microsoft Paint not really got no fixes since Windows 8 it as about as dead as gnome paint witch was last updated in 2010

 

On 8/15/2019 at 4:56 AM, BimBamSmash said:

There was never the need to change it this much to justify the transition from win32 to UWP.

 

It's not Linux were you can just change distros if you don't like something they do .  it's a close source app on closed source OS so they don't have justify anything they do they never have had too, they may feed you a line of BS to try to sell you on using it  but as far there apps is concerned they can not ship them, put in there store or anything they want they own it not you and if you don't like it  your free to use a win32 alternative not made by Microsoft like paint.net!  It   will be more dead once it goes in that store  people are naive if it not for 3rd party app devs refusing to develop on UWP  win32 would be dead if it were up to Microsoft  if they could get enough DEVs on board Windows would become another locked down OS like MAC OS is what they were pushing for and the end of windows software piracy  .It's more anti consumer bullshit that's about control.

 

 

 

 

 

[Kalju]

If something will made worse again, cannot rejoiced.

[steven36]

18 minutes ago, Kalju said:

If something will made worse again, cannot rejoiced.

What has there ever been to rejoice about with Windows 10 the OS is so bloated  and full of crap 90% of users never use that if they wanted to do the world a favor the make and architect iso and let you only install the apps you use. Everything Microsoft makes someone makes it better . They the only OS were more people use a 3rd party browser more than the ones that ships with , 1st thing people do is use IE or EDGE is to install Google Chrome Or Firefox .

 

They have free paint in the cloud no need for such apps , If you was a artist you would be using more advanced apps than paint .You know they was going change the name again sooner or latter it been around Windows 1.0 it started out as licensed version of ZSoft Corporation's PC Paintbrush then in Windows 3.0  they changed the name to Paintbrush then Windows 95 they changed the name to Paint . They been reinventing the wheel  with that app for almost 34 years now.

[dhjohns]

MS Paint just works.  It is easy with hardly a learning curve.  I have checked out Paint 3D, and don't have the patience to figure it out.  Sometimes less is better as in Notepad for example.

[steven36]

45 minutes ago, dhjohns said:

MS Paint just works.  It is easy with hardly a learning curve.  I have checked out Paint 3D, and don't have the patience to figure it out.  Sometimes less is better as in Notepad for example.

Have you ever tired Paint.net ? they also making wordpad were you can uninstall it .I never used paint in all the years i been on Windows . They so many things Microsoft made baked in  that people liked that have better alternatives that they have removed since Windows 7 like Media Center  ,  Classic Games  etc.  On Linux i have Kodi  witch can do way more than  Windows Media center could , also i have classic games  only the ones i want . Always on Windows they give you no real choice in the matter it comes with things you don't use .  On Linux you always had Arch and others were you build your OS from scratch , Now even Ubuntu even has were you do a minimal bare bones install. Everything on Linux can be uninstalled and purged  it may not boot up if you remove the wrong thing but still it can be uninstalled .

 

I use to use Windows Media Player and IE way back in the early  2000s XP days but technology evolved at a really fast pace  with 3rd party devs while Microsoft baked in stuff stagnated that i really had stopped using there apps by 2007 . I used  EM Editor , Firefox , BS Player , Zoom Player then Potplayer  and now i use SMPlayer  And the only answer Microsoft could come up with is UWP walled garden for updated apps is one of the many reason  i left windows .

[dhjohns]

Yea I have tried Paint.net, but didn't care for it.  I just use Paint, and Photoshop when I have serious stuff to do.  I like the MS Solitaire collection as it saves my stats.  It also looks good.  For watching movies I find WMP or Movies & TV app more than sufficient especially with K-Lite Mega codec pack installed (without their "classic" player.)  I can install WMC if I choose, and I have.  It works well, and I can set it up with a Modern Interface, and have it play mkv files, mount DVDs, etc.  I also have the Windows DVD player installed.  So, I am fully covered without using too many 3rd party apps which I try to stay away from.  I don't like Firefox.  It has never suited me well, and I am glad since there are many security issues with it which have come to light.  I do use the new Canary Edge based on Chromium. 

[steven36]

23 minutes ago, dhjohns said:

Yea I have tried Paint.net, but didn't care for it.  I just use Paint, and Photoshop when I have serious stuff to do.  I like the MS Solitaire collection as it saves my stats.  It also looks good.  For watching movies I find WMP or Movies & TV app more than sufficient especially with K-Lite Mega codec pack installed (without their "classic" player.)  I can install WMC if I choose, and I have.  It works well, and I can set it up with a Modern Interface, and have it play mkv files, mount DVDs, etc.  I also have the Windows DVD player installed.  So, I am fully covered without using too many 3rd party apps which I try to stay away from.  I don't like Firefox.  It has never suited me well, and I am glad since there are many security issues with it which have come to light.  I do use the new Canary Edge based on Chromium. 

So the only change you really like in windows is EDGE  witch is nothing special just another port of Chromium. On Linux I have Brave witch is based on  Chromium and Chromium but i never have been able to get in habit of using a Chromium browser like the masses did I been using Firefox based browsers since Firefox 2 and i'm not really crazy about the new Firefox ether so i use Waterfox classic  . No wonder Windows only have a 35% OS marketshare now .

 

I stop installing Codec packs on Windows once I got a good PC that could handle playing HD well  . I use to use shark007 codec pack with MovieSpot  because it worked better because it used very little CPU back when using Windows 7 on a 1 gen atom . But now we have MPV  that can do the same thing without installing codecs. Back when I used WMP  early 2000s I was on dail up so i only used it to watch bootleg DVDs i made from rentals . While it's true you can install codecs and  WMP it will play anything it uses alot of  cpu compared to  all the others that don't need codecs so i never used it anymore.

 

[dhjohns]

40 minutes ago, steven36 said:

it uses alot of  cpu compared to  all the others that don't need codecs so i never used it anymore

I have a Ryzen 8 core, and 32 GB of RAM so CPU usage and RAM usage are pratically irrelevant to me.

[steven36]

2 hours ago, dhjohns said:

I have a Ryzen 8 core, and 32 GB of RAM so CPU usage and RAM usage are pratically irrelevant to me.

It dont matter how much ram people have there is some of us  don't like bloatware were called minimalist . I have a friend who builds there own gaming systems who encode Hevc witch takes tons of processing power and they don't install codec packs and use WMP  stone age bloatware . They use SMPlayer  and Staxrip. Its like i could use one my other PCs that have More RAM than my Dell mini do and use a player that uses more CPU  but why do it when I can use another app and it work just as good with a PC with less Ram and not fool with installing codecs ? Even if I switch on My other computer i'm going use what i use on my Dell mini because i hate bloatware and icky codec packs .

 

Even with Ryzen 8 core you can't do something as simple as play a 4k Disc back so you have to pirate

 

submitted 2 months ago by TheJenniferLopez

So currently it's literally impossible to playback ultra hd bluray discs if you don't have an Intel cpu, this is due to fact Intel uses proprietary SGX software that AMD doesn't have.

I'm praying with the latest ryzen refresh we're going to get some support for UHD blurays but wanted to ask if anyone had any information or confirmation? As this is a serious shortfall that currently hasn't yet been addressed by AMD whatsoever.

 

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Also playing videos back have more to do  with hardware acceleration and your graphics cards more than it do with RAM .  Most any PC that came with Vista or newer can play 1080p  x264  using very little to no ram at all .  But whats the point of using a player that uses  ram when playing videos take very little if you have the right card? WMP has unneeded processes that others don't have you can see it in the task manger, If your having to use ram to play a video back it means your   graphics card dont support  that  codec and/or res .Only thing 32 GB of ram would be good for is encoding 4k videos but still you would never be able to compete with people who do it in the cloud or it could help some if you had a shitty graphics card.  But why upgrade your cpu if you do ?

 

The state of needing 16 GB  on Windows compared to 10 years ago we did the same with 10x less RAM is really sad  , It's because of crappy app coding  and website building you even need it and it will be the death of PCs in the end.

 

User: my computer is slow

Developer: BUT LOOK AT ALL THE FREE RAM WE'RE REFUSING TO UTILIZE!

 

[dhjohns]

Well I have rarely seen a bluray, and don't have a player.  Also, RAM is built to use, and the more RAM used the faster the software is.   My personal preference is to use what Windows has already, and use as little 3rd-party software as possible.  I function very well like this. ❤️

[steven36]

13 minutes ago, dhjohns said:

Well I have rarely seen a bluray, and don't have a player.  Also, RAM is built to use, and the more RAM used the faster the software is.   My personal preference is to use what Windows has already, and use as little 3rd-party software as possible.  I function very well like this. ❤️

They are people on Linux who is the same way , Me being a  software tester and retired software uploader  I find letting OS developers make my choices for me boring . I've not been were your at since i was a noob . They a whole world of stuff you be missing out on if you let the people make choices for you. If every one was like you they would be no need for Software sites like Nsanedown because everyone would use the same old baked in boring stuff.  The only reason windows have so much software to chose from is because they was a demand for it. No demand means  all the devs go to other platforms .

[dhjohns]

6 minutes ago, steven36 said:

If every one was like you they would be no need for Software sites like Nsanedown

If everyone were like me Nsanedown would still be in existence because  I do test software, run 3rd-party software, and write code.  I have a drive dedicated to portable apps, and my own apps. 

 

[steven36]

1 minute ago, dhjohns said:

If everyone were like me Nsanedown would still be in existence because  I do test software, run 3rd-party software, and write code.  I have a drive dedicated to portable apps, and my own apps. 

 

You just said you wasn't like the rest  make up your mind . I still have Windows 8.1 and i have a dedicated drive for portables . But every since 2015 and Microsoft acting stupid i don't care just like most of us that used XP and Windows 7 don't care anymore .  I use to boot 2 versions of Linux and Windows 10 but the more I use Linux the less anything Microsoft does matters to me I'm sure Mac users , Android users  and IOS users fell the same way . 

 

Anyone who really gets involved in helping out in the warez community burns out , most leave  because using cracks and things is chasing a pipe dream they break lol , since i switch to Linux my apps no longer break they just work because the coded to work for free out of the box not reversed to just prove a point.  After your work gets ripped off , you see people making money off your hobby and people you offer support to for free and people just use you it becomes were you get sick of it . This site was founded by a guy reversed and he didn't even want the site no more so the community saved it. The other site i use to upload on nobody could save it because the person who owned it would hand it over to the community he paid for it all and would not take a dime from his members and something happen to him and that was the end of it.

[dhjohns]

It is a shame you feel that way.  I always try to stay at the latest Windows release, and I think MS is doing very well.  If I upload code for free, and someone rips it off, I take that as flattery.  Anyway, I only use Windows.  I have tried the rest, I like Windows the best! ❤️

 

[steven36]

18 minutes ago, dhjohns said:

It is a shame you feel that way.  I always try to stay at the latest Windows release, and I think MS is doing very well.  If I upload code for free, and someone rips it off, I take that as flattery.  Anyway, I only use Windows.  I have tried the rest, I like Windows the best! ❤️

 

They doing well but not with Windows there not that why they there OS market-share is only 35%  and PCs not sold good  for 7 years sites like Nsane had to make a mobile section  for uploads and things . I have friends who been only on Android  for many many years that started out when i did on PC . I told people about the change many years ago and they may of thought i'm crazy  but i was right. It's a Google world outside of the Enterprise and Microsoft is just living in it. They are more of a services company that sell things to business  more than anything else now.  They have more Linux users on there cloud than Windows users now.

[dhjohns]

The Windows 10  market share is just shy of 39%.  Not the entire Windows market share.  PCs aren't  selling as well as they used to.  Many Millennials only use a pocket device for computing needs, so a mobile device section makes good sense.  You are right.  It is a Google/cloud world.  MS is adapting.  The cloud is really the future of  computing.  It certainly does make MY  life easier!  

[steven36]

1 hour ago, dhjohns said:

The Windows 10  market share is just shy of 39%.  Not the entire Windows market share.  PCs aren't  selling as well as they used to.  Many Millennials only use a pocket device for computing needs, so a mobile device section makes good sense.  You are right.  It is a Google/cloud world.  MS is adapting.  The cloud is really the future of  computing.  It certainly does make MY  life easier!  

windows 10 market share dont mean nothing because it's just desktop marketshare other than Mac and Linux there just competing with themselves  they over 4 billion users on the internet and in 2017 M$ said  Windows all versions had  a billion users they   use to have 1.5 billion users before  and that was 2 years ago now its most likely even lower now.

 

Satya Nadella says there are only 1 billion Windows users, down from 1.5 billion?

https://mspoweruser.com/satya-nadella-says-there-are-only-1-billion-windows-users-worldwide/

 

If you look at the all the OS market as a whole 35%  before they made windows 10 they had 51%

 

 There are 4.39 billion internet users in 2019, an increase of 366 million (9 percent) versus January 2018. With  more than one million new users every day.

https://wearesocial.com/blog/2019/01/digital-2019-global-internet-use-accelerates

 

Windows keeps shirking and the internet keeps getting new users everyday

 

[dhjohns]

OK, your stats reflect mobile data also.  When you only consider desktops then Windows usage is much higher.  When we are speaking of Paint (which is a Windows desktop app) I feel we should only be using desktop statistics  in our arguments.