The AchieVer Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Huawei Suspends the Development of Windows Laptops The executive order signed by US President Donald Trump in mid-May blacklisted Huawei and puts a ban on the company’s use of products developed by American companies. These products include both software and hardware, so as a result, Huawei can no longer install Android and Windows on its devices. While the Chinese tech giant has already started the development of its own operating system to replace both Android and Windows, the universal platform isn’t yet ready, and Huawei has no other option than to delay certain projects. As a result, the company has recently decided to put the development of new laptops on hold, as per a report from Digitimes, mostly because it has no operating system to power these devices. Few specifics are available at this point, but it turns out Huawei has already communicated its decision to supply chain partners to helped bring these devices to the market. All of them were told to suspend deliveries, albeit this all looks to be just a temporary decision until Huawei solves the problem of not having an operating system for its PCs. Huawei OS ready for Chinese debut in the fall On the other hand, given that some devices might be delayed, they could eventually be canceled for good, as their technical specs may no longer come in line with the existing market demand when they are ready for launch. Needless to say, Huawei remains completely tight-lipped on everything regarding its methods of dealing with the US ban, even though the company originally said it would be fully prepared for such restrictions. According to people familiar with the matter, Huawei’s operating system is expected to be finalized this summer and then installed on smartphones launching in China in the fall. The international debut of the OS is projected to take place next year, but it’s not clear at this point if it’s fully prepared for PCs or not. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisam Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It took Microsoft YEARS to develop Windows 10, having as a base all previous versions. So they didn't start form zero, they actually had Windows 8.1, 8, 7 and even XP as previous experience. Can Huawei develop an OS starting from zero? Remember, they can't use Windows as reference! I guess, no, on short time. My logical choice would be LINUX! Is can't be subject of blacklist and for most practical reasons, it can be used for any purpose. Final users can always reinstall Windows and drivers for Windows can be provided by Huawei. Well, just my idea. I have no intenton to buy Huawei products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 With a working linux-based system, why moving to win os/drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisam Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 7 hours ago, mp68terr said: With a working linux-based system, why moving to win os/drivers? Users might be interested in a dual windows / linux sytem. Still there are some important applications running under windows and without a linux equivalent or as powerful as the one running from Windows. Anyway, it's just some personal reflection, I don't believe Huawei is really interested in my suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequi Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 If Windows 10 is anything to go by, maybe it's best if Huawei starts from zero. ;) Win 10 still has bugs and vulnerabilities from the Win 2000 era that haven't been fixed and seem to be included in each new release, maybe because no one can understand the original code anymore or maybe it's deliberate. So Huawei could easily build a new OS (they have billions of dollars and some of the best programmers in the World). And use Linux as a stop-gap in the meantime (which also has/had age-old bugs nobody bothered to check, except the NSA). I'd buy a Huawei laptop, if it was cheap and reasonable quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, luisam said: Users might be interested in a dual windows / linux sytem. Still there are some important applications running under windows and without a linux equivalent or as powerful as the one running from Windows. Anyway, it's just some personal reflection, I don't believe Huawei is really interested in my suggestions! Google seems scared as far android is concerned , Them making there own fork and Google not getting any money from it . As far as desktop OS open source has React OS witch can install windows programs and such . you can install windows in a vm on Linux and use a PCI passthrough and run any apps or games almost as fast as if you was in booted up windows so there would not be no reason to boot in windows. https://forum.level1techs.com/t/play-games-in-windows-on-linux-pci-passthrough-quick-guide/108981 They got Steam now on Linux that can play 1000s of windows games . And your right that's your personal opinion because there is no apps on windows that's important to me because i don't Game but you can run many windows games in Linux or use a windows vm but i don't even use wine and I have windows 8.1 on my other partition but i don't ever really use it in the last 2 years , i done ween myself off windows . Android have way more users than windows meaning they over a billion people who don't need windows at all everything is going in the cloud from games , encoding ,video editing etc. With the cloud you can do all that on a smart phone or any OS , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 If this is a problem at all, then this is a very serious problem for Microsoft, but not for Huawei. But do you really think Huawei should start from scratch? Who did these Microsoft products developed, who did it? Or do you really think the products of Microsoft are US products, developed by US developers, but not China developers which is in USA about 25% of all developers at all? Why always come all Microsoft products at first in two languages, ie in English and in Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kalju said: If this is a problem at all, then this is a very serious problem for Microsoft, but not for Huawei. How is a problem for Microsoft other than the same old problem they had all along they cant sell Windows in China ? Because everyone pirates it Same problem they have here at Nsane! Regardless if Huawei makes Windows devices are not Microsoft got like a 100 vendors . China is not the only place the USA make computers they make them all over the world , they have plants in other parts of ASIA and other countries too. It don't matter to Microsoft if it made in China or if it made in Taiwan as long as they get there cut. i never seen a Huawei PC here in the States in my life much less own one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 @steven36 Everything is right, but so far Taiwan is officially part of China. They still have no independence. And, for example, I have not yet had the opportunity to have any computer that does not label "Made In China", "Made in Taiwan" ... Also my current DELL is "Made in China", etc... Even Microsoft Office has always been labeled "Made in China". In fact, it is a matter of the market for 5G networks and not anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kalju said: @steven36 Everything is right, but so far Taiwan is officially part of China. They still have no independence. And, for example, I have not yet had the opportunity to have any computer that does not label "Made In China", "Made in Taiwan" ... Also my current DELL is "Made in China", etc... Even Microsoft Office has always been labeled "Made in China". The USA or Twain don't see it that way . Did you know that these outfits don't really make PCs no more they just have plants were they put them together in the USA , China , etc. Who makes Dell, HP, Toshiba, Acer, Apple laptops? Have you ever wondered who makes that laptop you own? Well, wonder no more, because I’m going to tell you. Many people, and understandably so, believe that Dell, HP, Toshiba, Apple or Acer make their own laptops. This actually is not true. In fact, they don’t even design them in most cases. There are three main Chinese ODM (Original Design Manufacturers) manufacturers and one smaller manufacturer that design and make them for all five. Compal Electronics Inc, based in Taipei, Taiwan, designs and manufacturers laptops for Dell, Toshiba, HP (Hewlett-Packard) and Acer. They currently manufacture 45% of all Acer’s shipped laptops. 50% of Dell’s outsourced notebooks come from Compal. In June they recorded sales of $43 Billion according to their posted sales reports. Quanta Computer is the world’s largest designer and manufacturer of notebooks. Quanta is headquartered in Taiwan, with factories in several continents. 25% of all Acer notebooks are made by Quanta. If you look on their notebook product page, you may recognize the basic design. It is also not well known that Quanta Computer is now manufacturing the Apple MacBook Pro laptop computer. In June of this year, Quanta Computer recorded sales of a whopping $62 Billion. Foxconn in Taiwan is the manufacturer of Apple’s MacBook and iPod nano as well as the Sony Vaio laptop. Foxconn has also has some orders from Dell and HP . https://www.npinc.ca/who-makes-dell-hp-toshiba-acer-apple-laptops/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 But that's exactly what I've been talking about all the time. And what You think, to whom is it the worst, if they will no more make and will not develop Microsoft products? Yes, they nay loss some work places, but what will Microsoft lost? The biggest loss to them is the loss of reputation. And that has already happened. You can even see that Microsoft is no longer able to release its products for a long time on previously announsed time, a huge number of errors in every new release and problems are always during last 4 years. Then the joining Google, ie the introduction of Linuks, as well as the introduction of Apple/Google Browser (ie Safary/Chrome), because IE does not work long already, Microsoft own Edge have never worked etc. They made their own new new browser called Edge during 8 or 9 years, but still not work. Then they take Google browser... It's big joke. It is no more Microsoft, it is soon fully Google product. Only a few Microsoft tags/labels remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Kalju said: But that's exactly what I've been talking about all the time. And what You think, to whom is it the worst, if they will no more make and will not develop Microsoft products? Yes, they nay loss some work places, but what will Microsoft lost? The biggest loss to them is the loss of reputation. Maybe back in the Steve Ballmer days they would of cared but Microsoft really not sold much Windows since Windows 7 , there bread and butter is there services now witch they are doing better than they ever did before when Windows was selling good. Google not losing nothing ether because there playstore is blocked in China so they make not making any money off Android in China no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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