Windows XP dies final death as Embedded POSReady 2009 reaches end of life

[steven36]

After 17 years, support for the last Windows XP variant comes to an end. Because of changes coming to Windows Update, users have until July to apply final patches.

 

 

Extended support for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009—the last supported version of Windows based on Windows XP—ended on April 9, 2019, marking the final end of the Windows NT 5.1 product line after 17 years, 7 months, and 16 days. Counting this edition, Windows XP is the longest-lived version of Windows ever—a record that is unlikely to be beaten.

 

Other enterprise-targeted variants of Windows XP have reached end-of-life recently, with Windows Embedded Standard 2009 reaching end-of-life on January 8, 2019. Windows Embedded for Point of Service SP3 and XP Embedded SP3 reached end-of-life in 2016, while support for Windows XP Home and Professional SP3 ended five years ago, on April 8, 2014.

 

Despite the nominal end of support for Windows XP five years ago, the existence of POSReady 2009 allowed users to receive security updates on Windows XP Home and Professional SP3 through the use of a registry hack. Microsoft dissuaded users from doing this, stating that they "do not fully protect Windows XP customers," though no attempt was apparently made to prevent users from using this hack. With POSReady reaching the end of support, the flow of these security updates will likewise come to an end.

 

 

Facing facts, the death of Windows XP should be welcome at this juncture—ZDNet's Jason Perlow declared in 2017 that "If you're still using Windows XP, you're a menace to society," while the Australian Department of Defence only migrated the last of their systems off of Windows XP in February 2019.

 

Looking back: Migrating from Windows XP

 

In January 2014, Tech Pro Research surveyed TechRepublic members about their migration plans from Windows XP. The report (available freely here for TechRepublic members) found that 37% of respondents said they intended to continue using Windows XP.

 

Of those, 40% indicated that "It works, so there's no need to change," and 39% cited business-critical software with dependencies on Windows XP, a response that was more common among respondents from organizations with over 500 employees.

 

Of organizations that intended to remain on Windows XP, 42% of respondents cited security and malware risks as their primary concern, with 29% similarly concerned with a lack of continued patches or updates from Microsoft. Microsoft did go to the extraordinary step of patching Windows XP systems against WannaCry, deploying the update created for Embedded Standard and POSReady 2009, though 98% of WannaCry victims were using Windows 7.

 

Notably, 11% of respondents in the survey indicated plans to migrate systems to Linux, with 1% planning migrations to Mac OS X.

Where do you want to go today?

Microsoft undoubtedly would prefer Windows XP users upgrade to Windows 10, though attempting an in-place upgrade from XP to Windows 10 is likely a bad idea (and upgrading from POSReady 2009 to a consumer version of Windows is entirely unsupported). In 2015, TechRepublic chief reporter Nick Heath took a look at the lowest-spec systems you could install Windows 10 on.

 

If your systems are not connected to the Internet, it is possible to continue operating an out-of-support of system, though it's important to be wary about any devices—particularly USB drives—connected to the system.

 

It's unclear when Windows Update services for POSReady 2009 will be deactivated, if ever—minor issues such as expired certificates could impede the ability to install updates, though Windows 2000 could still connect to Windows Update as late as 2015, with some effort. Of note, Windows Update will require SHA-2 encryption support as of July 16, 2019 to continue receiving updates. It's probably a safe bet that Windows Update will continue to work normally until then, though guarantees are impossible. For current deployments, updating sooner rather than later is advisable.

 

Alternatively, the perennial Windows alternative ReactOS is still in active development.

 

For more, check out 8 strategies to keep legacy systems running, How PC/GEOS found a 5th life as an open source DOS shell, and how to install Windows 10 in a VM on a Linux machine, or for a deeper dive into TechRepublic's archives, check out "Microsoft bids adieu to Windows 98."

 

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[pedroj666]

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[Screen]

Finally! You have done your task and ran long enough XP, Now its time to die forever.

[pedroj666]

3 hours ago, Screen said:

Finally! You have done your task and ran long enough XP, Now its time to die forever.

 

It is time to rest in peace.
You worked for a long time without resting and for a long time you were considered by many the best operating system of Microsoft until the exit of 7 and 10.

[luisam]

Updating might come to end but I still need my XP dependent hardware so no way! I've been using XP for some time after 2014 without any security updates until I discovered POSREADY. So, until my hardware works, my XP will continue living in my computer.

[cosy]

That was the best OS ever made by MS, in my opinion, unfortunately money and greed  killed it

[mp68terr]

8 hours ago, steven36 said:

40% indicated that "It works, so there's no need to change"

Indeed... 5 units running XP. Connected to expensive specialized hardware-software suites. Why spending a lot of money to update hardwares/softwares that are calibrated and simply work?

Only m$oft and the IT/security departments would complain, not the users.

[luisam]

4 hours ago, cosy said:

That was the best OS ever made by MS, in my opinion, unfortunately money and greed  killed it

 

I have pre-installed Windows 10 running on my laptop and had not a single problem with it yet. Not even with 1809, which I downloaded in December.  So, using the proper computer, it is the best up to this moment.

The original release of windows XP was a disaster but It was soon improved with SP1 and the real breakthrough was SP2,  Another disaster was Windows XP 64 bits. I run it for a short time and had to remove it.

 

[cosy]

1 hour ago, luisam said:

Another disaster was Windows XP 64 bits. I run it for a short time and had to remove it.

 

The biggest flop from MS was the windows Millennium(windows Me)

I don't know exactly what and why they ever brought it out in the first instance

[steven36]

I'm glad  i figured out how to live without Microsoft .   I like owning my software  not it owning me,  I was a XP user for 10 years i still have a very old PC that has XP  on but i don't use it anymore  i stop using it in 2011 long before 2014 . The reason I switch to windows 7 back then because i was on a broad like this one and i bought into the hype my pals were telling me  so i upgraded my XP box witch was a new PC  to windows 7   and even it was a new Windows XP PC Windows 7 never ran good on  it  .

 

So  i guess  Windows 10 would not run well on most XP boxes . I used Windows 7 for like 2 years and then I bought  new PC with Windows 8  and then one with Windows  8.1  both of them have had Windows 10 on them before but none of my computers have Windows 10 now , one of them only has Linux  and the other one i use most of the time  have Windows 8.1 and Linux  but i hardly boot into windows or do i  keep up with Windows updates anymore because i don't really use Windows i just have it because i can.  I never had to pirate windows it came with my PCs or Microsoft or a friend gave me a legit upgrade for free, But it's a never ending cycle  . Windows 7 don't even have a registry hack for updates it will get no 2 extra years support,  let alone many more years this gave XP. Microsoft learned from mistakes it made with XP  .   So the only people left on Windows 7 will be people who don't care  about updates,  the masses will be  on Windows 10 and the smart ones will use Linux  were they really own there software. and the madness will keep on rocking . tell one day something better than Windows takes it's place.

[debebee]

18 years is too long anyway.

 

if you had hardware that still works that long.. keep using xp on it.. don't expect it much from it except running old software.. 

[steven36]

On 4/10/2019 at 5:35 PM, teodz1984 said:

18 years is too long anyway.

 

if you had hardware that still works that long.. keep using xp on it.. don't expect it much from it except running old software.. 

They  still sell XP  boxes some new and some refurbished  here are reasons people would  wan't one.

https://www.lifewire.com/still-want-microsoft-windows-xp-3507051

 

I guess the last New XP i bought was 2010  just because it was in service  18 years don't mean  it that old  It just depends on when  you bought it and the kind of  hardware you have. My old Vista Box from  2010 with Windows 7 on can do anything i want with it , i use to use it for encoding videos . It had Windows 10 on it , i  rolled it back to windows 7 so i can upgrade to Windows 10 are put Linux on it, but i  can only use one PC at a time unless i'm encodeing or something  so i  don't even turn the internet on that one no more. Alot of XP boxes will work great with Linux  as long as it's x64  compatible  because x86 is getting harder to find with Linux . They made a lot of XP boxes back in like 2010 that  could run both. It has to be a very old XP box  with a cheap processor before you can't find something Linux with updates that will run on it.

 

[x3r0]

The main problem is always NOT about the software: it's the adaptability.

 

See how Android goes with almost new "cookies" is released every year, notice how long vendor can publish updated of their software based on it. It's now faster thanks to Treble... but not that fast. They take at least ranging from a month up to almost a year even more from the new "cookies" was released.

 

Now, the industries, plus their hardware, goes even slower to adapt new things.

 

TL;DR: take it from me, from point of view of industries, 18 years is very short time.

[debebee]

Even android is susceptible to force obsolescence... 

look how old phones and tablets... are not supported anymore 

eg chrome, Netflix, kodi

[erp-ster0]

On 4/10/2019 at 1:21 PM, steven36 said:

 Windows 7 don't even have a registry hack for updates it will get no 2 extra years support,  let alone many more years this gave XP. Microsoft learned from mistakes it made with XP  .   So the only people left on Windows 7 will be people who don't care  about updates,  the masses will be  on Windows 10 and the smart ones will use Linux  were they really own there software. and the madness will keep on rocking . tell one day something better than Windows takes it's place.

 

there's no need for a reg hack for win7 updates like with the "posready" reg hack for XP.

current win7 updates in MSU packages support all win7 editions including the embedded ones

[steven36]

1 hour ago, erp-ster0 said:

 

there's no need for a reg hack for win7 updates like with the "posready" reg hack for XP.

current win7 updates in MSU packages support all win7 editions including the embedded ones

 You will see what i'm talking about January 2020 

https://www.lifewire.com/windows-7-end-of-life-4161085

No more free  public updates after that only people who will get them .

1.  if you use Microsoft Azure  Windows 7 virtual desktop you will be able to get the  three years of Windows 7 extended support as part of the package at no extra cost.

2. If using Microsoft Azure is not an option, then the last option IT pros have at their disposal is to pay Microsoft for Extended Security Updates (ESUs). This is a service that Microsoft has offered in the past when one operating system is approaching the end of its extended support. Whether the continued use of Windows 7 is due to legacy support of a Line of Business (LOB) app or older hardware that can not yet be upgraded/replaced, ESU's provide an option to keep those systems up to date and secure.

Of course, this Windows 7 extended support comes with a price tag.

 

https://www.itprotoday.com/windows-78/windows-7-extended-support-costs-revealed

 

2 hours ago, teodz1984 said:

Even android is susceptible to force obsolescence... 

look how old phones and tablets... are not supported anymore 

eg chrome, Netflix, kodi 

Linux don't have such problems  because they very few machines that can't run one of the latest versions  many distros even work with a Pentium 4 with 1 GB Ram and run smooth . I bought my 1st Pentium 4 in 2002  As long as  you can update it to a new version the latest Kodi  can be installed and Netflix can be watched in Firefox . Intel and AMD  display drivers are built into the kernel  .  Even if  the Linux Foundation   was to drop  x86 someone else would most likely back port them with security updates because it's open source .  If you don't like something they do or they stop supporting  something you just fork it yourself.  The reason Ubuntu  and Manjaro are dropping x64 is because they don't get many installs on x86 anymore because if you bought a PC in the last 12 years it most likely was x64 , But other distros  specialize in x86  and old hardware many based on Debian .    That's the difference in  a proprietary OS  such as Microsoft or Google makes and Open Source Linux  . 

https://itsfoss.com/lightweight-linux-beginners/