Karlston Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Boeing test pilots determine crash was unavoidable if MCAS wasn't shut down in 40 seconds. Enlarge / A Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashed in October 2018 because of problems with a sensor and a failure of flight control software. The crew had little time to react, data shows. PK-REN, Jakarta, Indonesia In testing performed in a simulator, Boeing test pilots recreated the conditions aboard Lion Air Flight 610 when it went down in the Java Sea in October, killing 189 people. The tests showed that the crew of the 737 MAX 8 would have only had 40 seconds to respond to the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System’s (MCAS’s) attempts to correct a stall that wasn’t happening before the aircraft went into an unrecoverable dive, according to a report by The New York Times. by While the test pilots were able to correct the issue with the flip of three switches, their training on the systems far exceeded that of the Lion Air crew—and that of the similarly doomed Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, which crashed earlier this month. The Lion Air crew was heard on cockpit voice recorders checking flight manuals in an attempt to diagnose what was going on moments before they died. One of the controls—the electric stabilizer trim thumbswitch on the pilot’s control yoke—could temporarily reset MCAS’s control over stabilizers. The Lion Air pilots hit this switch over 24 times, buying them some time—but MCAS’ stall prevention software kicked in afterwards each time because of faulty data coming from the aircraft’s primary angle of attack sensor. Completely disabling MCAS’ control over the aircraft’s stabilizers would be the only way to overcome that sensor failure in the current software version. That requires throwing two additional switches on the console and turning a trim wheel on the console manually to re-establish manual control. The Lion Air crew would have had to accomplish this while dealing with a host of alerts, including differences in other sensor data between the pilot and co-pilot positions that made it unclear what the aircraft’s altitude was. As a result, the crew continued to fight MCAS’ attempts to push the nose down until the end. Boeing is in the process of getting a software patch for MCAS ready for approval by the Federal Aviation Administration that corrects many of the problems that led to the Lion Air crash and may have contributed to the Ethiopia Airlines crash. That update is expected to be issued by the end of April, and it includes a previously optional feature that alerts air crews when the aircraft’s two angle of attack sensors are giving different information (a “disagree light”). Piling it on While the 737 MAX is currently prohibited from carrying commercial passengers, airlines can still fly the aircraft to ferry them to other locations. Southwest Airlines has been moving its 737 MAX aircraft to an aircraft parking facility in California. But today, one of those aircraft had to make an emergency landing in Orlando shortly after it took off. The emergency this time wasn’t related to flight software—instead, it was because of an engine problem, according to a Southwest spokesperson. Source: Lion Air 737 MAX crew had seconds to react, Boeing simulation finds (Ars Technica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiliarou Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 In other words, Boing should face charges for unwilling homicide. This is a huge scandal... Why did Boeing and the FAA judged that it was not necessary to highlight and train pilotes about a system that can control the pitch and will automatically try to nose down to avoid (imaginary) stall, based on a single AOA sensor ?! And it even circumvents pilot intervention/correction if you don't disable auto trim + 2 more switches. It's like if a car/bus manufacturer would not show anywhere in their manual or standard training material a system that could accelerate or brake by itself without driver intervention. Or as if a cruise control was activated automatically without user intervention and this behaviour wasn't anywhere in the standard documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jogs Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yes they will be fined, a tiny amount compared to their huge sales and some money will go to some people's pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiliarou Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 In any case, they already took a hit in terms of reputation/trustworthiness from the public + share price fall. Let's just hope this changes the FAA and other certification agency (EASA) behavior, as missing such design/documentation flaws is unacceptable for a government certifying agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Clearly both boeing and the certification agency are responsible. According certificates for something that should not be certified might hide some kind of... 'pressure'. Let's hope that the investigations won't focus on boeing solely. This applies to other big companies and their associated certification agencies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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