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I need a guy with clean OS Windows 7!
NOTE: You have only one attempt for our experiment! If you are using Virtual Machine than make Snapshot to return the condition. If you are using real device, you have only one attempt!

 

I found the following:

.NET Framework 4.x cannot be verified and installed at first installation. Once you failed on first run, any next installation will be completed successfully. This is problem for any .NET Framework 4 except one version - .NET Framework 4.5.2 work successfully without any fail!

I hope someone to confirm the issue! I checked left overs during the first install, but can not find the responsible key for success. Definitely it is not in the registry, because I returned all. It is somewhere in files leftovers, I have a little list of changes.

 

Links for your tests:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/deployment/deployment-guide-for-developers#redist
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/deployment/deployment-guide-for-developers#redistributable-packages
http://lietc.com/wiki/net_framework
https://www.askvg.com/what-is-microsoft-net-framework-download-links-for-all-versions-inside/

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I don't remember with which version it started but sure  4.7.2 need internet to verify the file, otherwise he says he can not check the file. The last pure offline installer I have is 4.6.1

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10 minutes ago, Togijak said:

I don't remember with which version it started but sure  4.7.2 need internet to verify the file, otherwise he says he can not check the file.

 

No matter online (web) or offline full installer - with enabled internet connection there is failure for first installation. The only one first installation

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9 minutes ago, BTJB said:

 

No matter online (web) or offline full installer - with enabled internet connection there is failure for first installation. The only one first installation

Yes but @Togijak is right with 4.7.2 will give error on every launch if we arent connected to internet

@BTJB so if you are trying to fix this you gonna have to fix the first launch problem and also the network check bceause if there is not network you wont be able to install 4.7.2 no matter how many times you launch it.

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4 hours ago, BTJB said:

there is failure for first installation

If this is true your OS must be mixed up, in that situation I would do a new clean installation from a original MS ISO. I am a win 7 user from the beginning and installed it sure more than 100 times at this time and never had such a problem. The only idea I have is that it could be a memory problem. For example the .NET Framework 4.7.2 Final-x86-x64-AllOS-ENU has around 70 MB but if you extract the exe file the resulting folder has 2,14 GB

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2 minutes ago, Togijak said:

If this is true your OS must be mixed up, in that situation I would do a new clean installation from a original MS ISO. I am a win 7 user from the beginning and installed it sure more than 100 times at this time and never had such a problem. The only idea I have is that it could be a memory problem. For example the .NET Framework 4.7.2 Final-x86-x64-AllOS-ENU has around 70 MB but if you extract the exe file the resulting folder has 2,14 GB

 

No. You must listen me carefully. I am installing all kind of net frameworks without problem. The only problem I found is the first launch! The first launch always fail. Any next installation work fine! So, if there is no problem with any version, than reason is not limited space, not disabled network! The only problem is first installing on clean Windows 7. If there wasn't attempt to install, it will fail. If there was attempting before, than it is in good condition to install and complete successfully without any error! You are able to install the same version to the end of Windows 7 live! You are unable to install the new different version. If you try once, you are done to install on next time.

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Harry DS Alsyundawy

alternative, u can use original iso msdn from latest build 20180801

 

Microsoft original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700

##Microsoft Windows® 7
#Language: EN_US (en_us) {English}
#Operating System Type (OS): 64 bit
#Operating System Type (OS): 32 bit
#Size: *******
#Format: ISO (*.iso)

==================================================================================================================
#Microsoft Original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 #Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700 x64
Direct URL's for download:

#Ultimate x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/1/9/5195A765-3A41-4A72-87D8-200D897CBE21/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_ULTIMATE_x64FRE_en-us.iso
#Professional x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/3/06365375-C346-4D65-87C7-EE41F55F736B/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_PROFESSIONAL_x64FRE_en-us.iso
#HomePremium x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/A/8/EA804D86-C3DF-4719-9966-6A66C9306598/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_HOMEPREMIUM_x64FRE_en-us.iso

==================================================================================================================
#Microsoft Original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 #Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700 x86
Direct URL's for download:

#Ultimate x86: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/E/6/1E6B4803-DD2A-49DF-8468-69C0E6E36218/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_ULTIMATE_x86FRE_en-us.iso
#HomePremium x86: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/D/A/EDA6B508-7663-4E30-86F9-949932F443D0/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_HOMEPREMIUM_x86FRE_en-us.iso

#Note:
#################################################################
Major version: 6
Minor version: 1
Build number: 7601
Build revision: 24214
Lab string: win7sp1_ldr_escrow
Build time: 2018-08-01 17:00:00
Family: Windows 7
Source type: Public release
#################################################################

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9 minutes ago, BTJB said:

You must listen me carefully

 

and you should try to think logically. For example = if the first time the extraction is incomplete for any reason the extracted files will not be deleted and on next try this already complete extracted files would be skipped.

 

that was my last answer

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1 hour ago, Togijak said:

 

and you should try to think logically. For example = if the first time the extraction is incomplete for any reason the extracted files will not be deleted and on next try this already complete extracted files would be skipped.

 

So what is the point to extract two parts one by one if there is not enough space for the second one? I am thinking logically of course. And why no one tried my offer? Just get your VM and install for 20 minutes original Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x86 in my case) and have fun. :) 

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@BTJB

 

please notice that I have two VMs, one with Win 7 x 64 and one with Win 7 x86 and in both was a Net .NET Framework 4.7.2 installed also without your problems

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49 minutes ago, Togijak said:

@BTJB

 

please notice that I have two VMs, one with Win 7 x 64 and one with Win 7 x86 and in both was a Net .NET Framework 4.7.2 installed also without your problems

 

Have you tried .NET472 installation on fresh clean Windows 7 installation? Let me know please! Just try again with new releases, Microsoft may changed something silently.

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4 hours ago, BTJB said:

Have you tried .NET472 installation on fresh clean Windows 7 installation? Let me know please! Just try again with new releases, Microsoft may changed something silently.

 

Tested it on my standard Windows 7 Ultimate and Pro VMs, clean installs with nothing else, not even updates.  I downloaded and ran the .Net472 offline installer on both without any problem.  Installed and finished normally.   (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4054530/microsoft-net-framework-4-7-2-offline-installer-for-windows)

 

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7 hours ago, BTJB said:

Have you tried .NET472 installation on fresh clean Windows 7 installation?

 

t9ZCcHn.gif what a stupid question = from now on you are on my ignore list (you're the best example that my statement "the problem is usually about 15.748031 inches in front of the monitor" is correct)

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For limited space the error code should be 5100

 

Part of my log error example:

[2/25/2019, 11:55:5] Action complete
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Signature verified, verifying signer
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPBE6B.tmp - Signature verified successfully for netfx_Full_x86.msi
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5] C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPBE6B.tmp Signature verified successfully for netfx_Full_x86.msi
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Signature verification succeeded for netfx_Full_x86.msi
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Download succeeded at attempt 1 of 4 for http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=11324&pver=netfx&sbp=Net472Rel1&plcid=0x409&clcid=0x409&ar=03062.00&sar=amd64&o1=netfx_Full_x86.msi using BITS
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5] Action complete
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]URL details = go.microsoft.com---/fwlink/---?prd=11324&pver=netfx&sbp=Net472Rel1&plcid=0x409&clcid=0x409&ar=03081.00&sar=amd64&o1=netfx_Patch_x86.msp&o2=enu&o3=netfx\fullrefreshisv&o4=net\netfx_Patch_x86.msp
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Downloading http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/ to C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\netfx_Patch_x86.msp
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Starting download attempt 1 of 4 for http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=11324&pver=netfx&sbp=Net472Rel1&plcid=0x409&clcid=0x409&ar=03081.00&sar=amd64&o1=netfx_Patch_x86.msp using BITS
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Log File C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_BITS.log does not yet exist but may do at Watson upload time
[2/25/2019, 11:55:5]Log File C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_BITS.log does not yet exist but may do at Watson upload time
 
[2/25/2019, 11:55:15] Action complete
[2/25/2019, 11:55:15]C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPF853.tmp - Signature verification for file netfx_Patch_x86.msp (C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPF853.tmp) failed with error 0x800b0003 (The form specified for the subject is not one supported or known by the specified trust provider.)
[2/25/2019, 11:55:18]EvtNext failed with error: 4317
- - - 
Crypto API Events
[2/25/2019, 11:55:18] C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPF853.tmp Signature could not be verified for netfx_Patch_x86.msp
[2/25/2019, 11:55:18]No FileHash provided. Cannot perform FileHash verification for netfx_Patch_x86.msp
[2/25/2019, 11:55:18]Download failed at attempt 1 of 4 for http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=11324&pver=netfx&sbp=Net472Rel1&plcid=0x409&clcid=0x409&ar=03081.00&sar=amd64&o1=netfx_Patch_x86.msp using BITS
[2/25/2019, 11:55:25]Starting download attempt 1 of 4 for http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?prd=11324&pver=netfx&sbp=Net472Rel1&plcid=0x409&clcid=0x409&ar=03081.00&sar=amd64&o1=netfx_Patch_x86.msp using Http
[2/25/2019, 11:55:25]Auto detecting proxy information
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl failed with error: 12180
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Auto detection of proxy failed, try to retrieve proxy information via IE.
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Retrieving proxy information using WinHttpGetIEProxyConfigForCurrentUser
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Unable to retrieve Proxy information although WinHttpGetIEProxyConfigForCurrentUser called succeeded
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]WINHTTP_ACCESS_TYPE_DEFAULT_PROXY
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Session Created
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Connection Created
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]Request Created
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39] Action complete
[2/25/2019, 11:55:39]C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPF853.tmp - Signature verification for file netfx_Patch_x86.msp (C:\cf8d781e048937deb201356b248e8252\TMPF853.tmp) failed with error 0x800b0003 (The form specified for the subject is not one supported or known by the specified trust provider.)
[2/25/2019, 11:55:42]EvtNext failed with error: 4317

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Harry DS Alsyundawy

try this repacks

 

https://www.win-unattended.de/viewtopic.php?p=2554#p2554

 

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12 hours ago, Harry DS Alsyundawy said:

try this repacks

 

These repacks work fine. Fast installation.  But they are not original.

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On 2/28/2019 at 12:25 PM, Harry DS Alsyundawy said:

alternative, u can use original iso msdn from latest build 20180801

 

Microsoft original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700

##Microsoft Windows® 7
#Language: EN_US (en_us) {English}
#Operating System Type (OS): 64 bit
#Operating System Type (OS): 32 bit
#Size: *******
#Format: ISO (*.iso)

==================================================================================================================
#Microsoft Original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 #Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700 x64
Direct URL's for download:

#Ultimate x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/1/9/5195A765-3A41-4A72-87D8-200D897CBE21/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_ULTIMATE_x64FRE_en-us.iso
#Professional x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/3/06365375-C346-4D65-87C7-EE41F55F736B/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_PROFESSIONAL_x64FRE_en-us.iso
#HomePremium x64: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/A/8/EA804D86-C3DF-4719-9966-6A66C9306598/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_HOMEPREMIUM_x64FRE_en-us.iso

==================================================================================================================
#Microsoft Original ISO's Windows 7 With SP1 #Build 7601.24214.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.180801-1700 x86
Direct URL's for download:

#Ultimate x86: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/E/6/1E6B4803-DD2A-49DF-8468-69C0E6E36218/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_ULTIMATE_x86FRE_en-us.iso
#HomePremium x86: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/D/A/EDA6B508-7663-4E30-86F9-949932F443D0/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_HOMEPREMIUM_x86FRE_en-us.iso

#Note:
#################################################################
Major version: 6
Minor version: 1
Build number: 7601
Build revision: 24214
Lab string: win7sp1_ldr_escrow
Build time: 2018-08-01 17:00:00
Family: Windows 7
Source type: Public release
#################################################################

 

you missed one, Harry.  Professional x86/32bit

https://download.microsoft.com/download/C/0/6/C067D0CD-3785-4727-898E-60DC3120BB14/7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_PROFESSIONAL_x86FRE_en-us.iso

 

though these new win7 isos have both IE11 and .NET 4.7.2 already integrated, they also include a bunch of "telemetry" patches for win7 (ex. KB2952664, KB3150513, etc.) but they can be uninstalled afterwards

 

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