nir Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Microsoft's fall feature upgrade, released on Oct. 2, was pulled from distribution four days later. The company has yet to restart the release. Thirty-five days after Microsoft withdrew the Windows 10 October 2018 Update from all distribution, the Redmond, Wash. company has yet to restart delivery. The delay has no precedent in Windows 10 and has gone on significantly longer than instances in prior editions when updates, most of them security fixes, had to be pulled and then later re-released. Microsoft debuted the fall feature upgrade, also known as 1809 in the firm's yymm format, on Oct. 2. Four days later - Oct. 6 - it retracted the release by yanking it from the Windows Update service and warning users who had downloaded it to trash the disk image. The reason: Some users - Microsoft said 1/100th of 1% - reported that the upgrade deleted all files in several folders, including the important Documents and Photos directories. On Oct. 9, Microsoft told those who had installed the upgrade to stay off their PCs and to call a toll-free number for help in possibly recovering some of the deleted files. (Computerworld selected Oct. 6 as the start date for the delay because it was then that Microsoft halted dissemination.) The last word on 1809 was more than four weeks ago, when John Cable, director of program management in the Windows servicing group, told customers that bugs had been fixed. But rather than again putting the general public at risk, the company handed the re-release to those who had volunteered to test the OS by signing up with the Windows Insider preview program. And that's where it remains. Other pauses - Microsoft's term for stopping the upgrade - have been much shorter, with the company typically rolling out a re-release within a handful of days. For example, a 2008 security patch meant to plug a hole in Windows' implementation of Bluetooth was re-issued in nine days. Earlier that same year, Microsoft took eight days to come up with a rejiggered fix for a math bug a previous patch had inserted into Excel. And in 2012, Microsoft re-released Office 2011 for Mac SP2 (Service Pack 2) five days after pulling it from distribution. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrEzi Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Probably fixing the other bugs that were reported by insiders but ignored by MS... OR - integrating more of the Candycrush stuff into W10. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterupc Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 W10 1809 is the worst iteration I've ever tested as insider... damn, I grow old of filling problems in the Feedback Hub that never were fixed and that still remain in the new previews. They take no care about real problems but the most trending ones (suggestions for the most) that are filled in the FH. It's just dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, masterupc said: W10 1809 is the worst iteration I've ever tested as insider... damn, I grow old of filling problems in the Feedback Hub that never were fixed and that still remain in the new previews. They take no care about real problems but the most trending ones (suggestions for the most) that are filled in the FH. It's just dissapointing. the reason was explaind few weeks ago and was caused due Feedback Hub app does not had an option to specify severity of the problems reported, and due that some problems reported were not massive but were critical was unnoticed due low upvotes, but now they have implement an option to specify the severity of the problems reported, so now an important problem can be marked a critical and will not be ignored anymore, even if it does not have upvotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterupc Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 hours ago, SPECTRUM said: the reason was explaind few weeks ago and was caused due Feedback Hub app does not had an option to specify severity of the problems reported, and due that some problems reported were not massive but were critical was unnoticed due low upvotes, but now they have implement an option to specify the severity of the problems reported, so now an important problem can be marked a critical and will not be ignored anymore, even if it does not have upvotes. And that will resolve the problem? You can bypass that just filling a suggestion as a critical problem and the upvotes will grow like always... that's not a solution. They should filter the people who make a fuss over nothing and discard its posts. If someone applies for the insider program is for testing, not for fun... at least that's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, masterupc said: And that will resolve the problem? You can bypass that just filling a suggestion as a critical problem and the upvotes will grow like always... that's not a solution. They should filter the people who make a fuss over nothing and discard its posts. If someone applies for the insider program is for testing, not for fun... at least that's what I think. you can actully report comments with bad behavior, or fake reports, so it's just like a common bug tracker, except that you can't edit your previous reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 17 hours ago, SPECTRUM said: now they have implement an option to specify the severity of the problems reported, so now an important problem can be marked a critical and will not be ignored anymore, even if it does not have upvotes. The problem is that only professional testers know how to correctly assign severity. Windows Insiders are unskilled and unprofessional testers who don't use their Insider installs for day-to-day stuff and that's why they'll never replace the in-house professional testing teams that Microsoft sacked, starting the Windows update debacles. Queue tab colour changes and dark themes being rated as "critical". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Karlston said: Windows Insiders are unskilled and unprofessional testers who don't use their Insider installs for day-to-day stuff and that's why they'll never replace the in-house professional testing teams that Microsoft sacked, starting the Windows update debacles. Yes it started before windows 10 ever came out if you remember back in 2014 was they was pushing bad updates out on windows 7 and 8.1 when they released Windows 10 the next summer it was not suppose be released as a general public tell that fall ..It had been in insiders since Oct 2014 https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/10/windows-10-beta-now-available-to-download-time-to-test-the-new-start-menu/ And it was not meant to be released tell a year latter and they released it like 6 months after it was a insider and they were hardly any working drivers for it and they were fouling up pcs left and right to top that they tried to push it on Windows 7 and 8.1 to get a billion users and failed to make there numbers. It started out as a major foul up and 6 months has never been enough time for Microsoft to push out a stable OS . Look at Windows Vista . Quote Windows Vista occurred over the span of five and a half years, starting in earnest in May 2001, prior to the release of Microsoft's Windows XP operating system, and continuing until November 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista Windows 7 was buggy as crap when they 1st released it, it was just Vista with small changes Windows 7 review: 'New' OS is just Vista with small changes https://gcn.com/articles/2009/10/26/gcn-lab-review-windows-7-vista-by-another-name.aspx It Was not tell they Released Windows 7 SP 1 Mar 15, 2011 tell they got most of the bugs out of it .. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5842 It only took them almost 10 years to prefect the idea and Windows 8 /8.1 was pretty much trouble free then they went back too 2001 again. trying to be a bunch of brainiacs. I stayed on Windows XP tell right before Windows 7 SP1 came out in 2011 and installed SP1 the day it came out. They thought they could pull off another Windows 7 like they did Vista again with Windows 10 and improve upon Windows 8 and boy did they drop the ball on this one. It took them years to ever make a good OS Windows 98 was not any good it was not tell Windows 98 SE came out it became stable. Then there was Windows 2000 witch was the mama to XP it was and update of Windows NT. then there was Windows ME lol.... When XP came out it was malware and virus prone tell they fixed the Firewall in SP2 you would get infected in 20 mins using it. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/19/infected_in20_minutes/ The good, the bad, the kludgy: A brief history of Microsoft OSes https://gcn.com/articles/2009/09/14/windows-7-side-history-of-microsoft-oses.aspx 22 common Windows 7 problems 2009-12-04 https://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/22-common-windows-7-problems-solved-655655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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