steven36 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 A week after recreational marijuana was legalized, cannabis supplies for medical users have almost vanished at one licenced producer. And stocks at others are thinner than they were a few months ago. Nanaimo, B.C.-based licensed producer Tilray had no medical cannabis available at mid-day Wednesday, though it had one oil for sale later in the afternoon. “It makes it pretty difficult,” says Tilray customer John Campbell, 72, of Owen Sound, Ont. “Where it leaves me is that I’ve got to find another source.” Campbell says he has suffered from chronic pain since surgery he had in 2009. He started by controlling his pain with fentanyl, but disliked it — “Fentanyl scares me. I’m totally scared to death of it.” His doctor switched him to hydromorph contin, and he has been gradually able to cut his dosage by over two-thirds by using cannabis oil, and hopes to cut it further. “When your body gets accustomed to a specific product, and you’re buying it from a specific company, it gets adjusted to it. To try to change over to another supplier makes it difficult.” As recently as August, Tilray seemed well-stocked with a selection of oil and dried flower. Tilray saw higher demand from medical customers in the leadup to recreational legalization, the company says. After it sent them e-mails warning them of a possible shortage, a rash of buying worsened the shortage. “We have received an unusually high volume of orders on Tilray medical cannabis products this month,” said spokesperson Chrissy Roebuck in an e-mailed statement. “In anticipation of a potential stock-out of whole flower, we proactively informed patients of this temporary supply interruption which resulted in an additional high volume of orders on oil and capsule varieties, as well.” In an e-mailed statement, Health Canada pointed to a sharp increase in licenced production capacity: 89 new facilities have been licensed in the last 16 months and another 179 allowed to expand. “The Government of Canada is committed to ensuring that Canadians who require cannabis for medical purposes have access to a legal and quality-controlled supply,” spokesperson Tammy Jarbeau wrote. “While there is no regulatory requirement for licensed producers to prioritize sales to individuals who require cannabis for medical purposes over non-medical sales, it is expected that they will do so. In fact, a number of existing licensed producers have committed publicly to doing so.” “There used to be a restriction on the amount you could purchase in a 30-day period, and that’s been removed. While that’s a good thing, because it did create supply uncertainty for patients, and that’s the reason it was removed, suddenly the buying levels doubled or tripled.” And it would be unhelpful to try to bring it back, she argues. “You’d be doing that on the basis of assumptions that patients would continue to buy exactly what they’re buying now in exactly the same quantities that they’re buying now, and that they’re not going to make a different choice. It can’t be done.” It’s legally possible for producers to import medical marijuana (they can’t import recreational marijuana). But Ottawa is unlikely to approve that because of uneasiness about the quality of the imported product, Fraser says. On Twitter, the company said it was hoping to restock by the end of October. Quote Our team is working diligently to expedite products to the store! We have additional whole flower, 10:10 Balance and 25:0 THC oil expected by the end of the month; High-CBD oil in early November! — Tilray Canada (@tilray) October 23, 2018 Quote We understand access to our products is paramount and our team is committed to ensuring the store is well-stocked with a diverse selection for patients to select from. We anticipate being stocked up as early as next week. Thank you for your patience. — Tilray Canada (@tilray) October 23, 2018 But buying up a large supply is only open to those who can afford it, Campbell points out. Quote “You’d have to have an awful lot of money to do that. When I purchase mine, I usually buy three bottles at a time. They don’t last a week, and that’s $269 for those three bottles. I’m on a limited income, and that’s quite difficult.” Other licensed producers seem to be doing better than Tilray, at least for now. Spectrum, Tweed’s medical division, still has a selection of gel caps, oils and dried flower, as does Aphria, though some of its strains are sold out. Aurora and WeedMD have a selection of oil and flower, as does Medreleaf, though many of its medical products are sold out. Maricann is offering two oils and a flower, down from three oils and two flowers on Oct. 12. “Legalization has opened the door for these companies, and they left the medical users in a place that was not anticipated or wanted,” Campbell says. Quote “They wouldn’t be in the business if it wasn’t for medical marijuana.” The solution is for Health Canada to approve more production facilities, Fraser argued. Quote “What they can do is help people get through this supply crunch by actually issuing some licences.” “There are five or six hundred applications for production facilities pending with Health Canada, and that number’s probably going to increase before it decreases.” Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Can someone tell me if roadside drug testing happens in Canada ? It does in my country and isn't very fair as any trace in your system is a fail with a ticket and loss of licence for repeat offenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, DonyMach1 said: Can someone tell me if roadside drug testing happens in Canada ? It does in my country and isn't very fair as any trace in your system is a fail with a ticket and loss of licence for repeat offenders Dont smoke and drive the test they have now only can detect it for like 3 hours. they dont have a test that works right yet. Quote The level of intoxication associated with a given THC blood concentration depends on many variables — how marijuana’s ingested, whether someone is a regular user, the level of THC in the dose, and whether they’ve ingested other drugs or alcohol. That makes it infeasible to set a single blood alcohol content (BAC) level as is set for alcohol, according to a new research paper. And, the paper says, because THC can spike and leave the bloodstream in less than three hours — despite impairment potentially lasting six to eight hours — a blood test taken an hour or more after a traffic stop may fail to identify impairment due to marijuana use. “There is no one blood or oral fluid concentration that can differentiate impaired and not impaired,” Marilyn Huestis, PhD, the paper’s co-author and former head of cannabinoid-related research projects at the National Institute on Drug Abuse, said in a statement. “If someone is driving impaired, by the time you get their blood sample, you’ve lost 90 percent or more of the drug. So, we have to change what we do at the roadside,” she said. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/difficult-to-develop-roadside-test-for-marijuana A urine test wont hold up in court , they can't prove you are impaired because weed can stay in your system for days .. So only they can give a blood test that only works for 3 hours. Quote The officer’s going to use that oral swab, [but] that’s not admissible in court, either, just part of their building probable cause [to make an arrest for driving under the influence of narcotics].” Shaw says. That swab is then analyzed by a handheld electronic device. And just like a breathalyzer, drivers have the right to refuse the saliva test, Shaw says – but police can get a search warrant to test you. If the driver is arrested, police will administer a blood test as well, which can be used as court evidence, according to Shaw. If they stop you and you have to take one if you have not smoke in 3 hours you will be fine . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, steven36 said: they can't prove you are impaired because weed can stay in your system for days Thanks for the info Steven here it doesn't seem fair as you have said it can take days to leave your system and any trace here is a fail...….. Fair enough if your doing the Cheech & Chong thing while your driving lol but for part time users and those who have a medical reason to take it you just cant legally drive here and that sucks for so many people just not fair .. Nice article by the way have a good day m8 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Hi @Dean213 hope your well brother how have you found the legalizing of pot in your area ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch234 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, steven36 said: they can't prove you are impaired because weed can stay in your system for days Exactly. As of now, there is only one test that has been approved by a judge. But lawyers are already saying they will challenge it in court. Not only that, the apparatus required is very cost prohibitive so police stations are already making it known they will not buy any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, DonyMach1 said: Thanks for the info Steven here it doesn't seem fair as you have said it can take days to leave your system and any trace here is a fail...….. Fair enough if your doing the Cheech & Chong thing while your driving lol but for part time users and those who have a medical reason to take it you just cant legally drive here and that sucks for so many people just not fair .. Nice article by the way have a good day m8 😁 Its the same as drinking and driving but more easy to pass if your not stoned or you could still be impaired six to eight hours but it want show up in your blood after 3 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I believe in the UK they have certain limits of intoxication for certain drugs that seems a fair way to approach this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, DonyMach1 said: I believe in the UK they have certain limits of intoxication for certain drugs that seems a fair way to approach this issue. There is no such thing as a test for weed like this yet Quote “There is no one blood or oral fluid concentration that can differentiate impaired and not impaired,” Marilyn Huestis, PhD, the paper’s co-author and former head of cannabinoid-related research projects at the National Institute on Drug Abuse, said in a statement. most people who some weed don't drive crazy to get stopped no ways its people who use benzodiazepines or opiates or alcohol that drive nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean213 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, DonyMach1 said: Hi @Dean213 hope your well brother how have you found the legalizing of pot in your area ? It’s excellent that Canada has legalized it - in my opinion it was about time! There was rumour that we have almost run out of marijuana - hope it’s not true though. I am very pro medicinal and recreational marijuana. Edit: OMG - I answered without noticing the topic...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch234 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Dean213 said: hope it’s not true though Nawww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 What are the drug driving limits? UK laws explained source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch234 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Its takes more µg of cocaine to get arrested than weed. Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, lurch234 said: Its takes more µg of cocaine to get arrested than weed. Go figure Only five times the amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, DonyMach1 said: Only five times the amount In the UK you need to wait 7 – 12 hours maybe a day, just depends if you smoke a lot .Legal Limit (Blood) Delta – 9 -Tetrahydrocannibinol (Cannabis) 2µg/L 1 puff can put you 9 times over the legal limit Quote How long do I need to wait before driving? As above, a single cannabis cigarette will cause an average peak concentration of 120 micrograms within 8 minutes. This will then drop rapidly over the following 4 – 6 hours, with a blood concentration of 2 micrograms expected to be reached within 7 – 12 hours.* Please note that there are no ‘accepted standards’ for measuring the elimination rate of THC. The above information is based upon multiple studies and scientific findings. http://www.drinkdrivingsolicitor.co.uk/drug-driving/cannabis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 In my country testing for cocaine only started in Jan this year prior to this many of my pot smoking friends ditched pot for cocaine because they could not get busted while driving to bad now.. Now we have another problem lots of people addicted to cocaine go figure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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