JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hello friends, I would like your help to create an optimized version of Windows for 10 netbooks with Intel Atom N450/N550, I have an old notebook makers desdes and wish I could use it, even if it was only to browse the Forum, showing images and rotate the Office also. I've tried to install on it almost all Windows versions available and 10 he is very slow, so as I don't have much knowledge of what can be cleaned windows image so that it continues to function without damaging the system itself, come here I humbly ask the help of Nsane. Below is the specs of my museum piece ... lol Intel Atom N450 1.66 Ghz processor 0.3 webcam Acer Crystal Eye Webcam Memory 2 GB DDR2 SO-DIMM SDRAM HD 160 GB HDD Memory Card Reader 5 in 1 Widescreen LED Backlit TFT-LCD Acer CrystalBrite Technology 10.1 "1024 x 600 native resolution Intel GMA 950 graphics card 10/100 Mbps Ethernet (RJ-45) Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n Thanks in advanced for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 what kind of windows was preinstalled on your laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, gipsy said: what kind of windows was preinstalled on your laptop? It comes with Microsoft Windows 7 Starter, but I don't like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, JeepWillys58 said: It comes with Microsoft Windows 7 Starter, but I don't like it... i see .win 10 won't be better\faster ...on that kind of hardware so as an advice-try win 8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Into this machine has been installed the Windows 10x86 Home (or x86 single language - no matter), but the 1.66 GHz processor and 2 GB DDR2 is too little, to even look modern web pages. If You want, try, but I'll not recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debebee Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just keep it on Windows 7 Pro.. Windows 10 will not work for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, gipsy said: i see .win 10 won't be better\faster ...on that kind of hardware so as an advice-try win 8.1. Thank you friend, But I ran him the Mr version Gandalf 'sWin10PEx86 and runs well, it's not a super machine, but it is possible to use without a lot of stress, but I don't know if it's possible to make a version as she optimized language pt-BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, JeepWillys58 said: Thank you friend, But I ran him the Mr version Gandalf 'sWin10PEx86 and runs well, it's not a super machine, but it is possible to use without a lot of stress, but I don't know if it's possible to make a version as she optimized language pt-BR. in your case better way is to install original US version (as i did) for not hv any issue with MUI. all above is personal opinion only. choose,decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trufpal Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Have you tried Win 10 v1607 LTSB? Non-LTSB are too bloated, no matter which versions you use. It's no surprise if they bogged down your machine. For the record, I've been doing some Win 10 install tests on VM with 2 GB allocated RAM. I've tested 1607, 1703, 1709 and LTSB. 1709 was by far the worst and feels slow and sluggish. LTSB was the best and it feels snappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Based on the kind of works you're planning on to do on your laptop you can use a lightweight Linux distro, you can do all kinds of basic tasks plus more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neofita Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, JeepWillys58 said: Thank you friend, But I ran him the Mr version Gandalf 'sWin10PEx86 and runs well, it's not a super machine, but it is possible to use without a lot of stress, but I don't know if it's possible to make a version as she optimized language pt-BR. Gandalf's PE is not a full OS, it runs all in RAM without any disk I/O W10 is too bloated for your netbook, at most you can try LTSB version Linux is the best option IMHO regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, trufpal said: Have you tried Win 10 v1607 LTSB? Non-LTSB are too bloated, no matter which versions you use. It's no surprise if they bogged down your machine. For the record, I've been doing some Win 10 install tests on VM with 2 GB allocated RAM. I've tested 1607, 1703, 1709 and LTSB. 1709 was by far the worst and feels slow and sluggish. LTSB was the best and it feels snappy. I already tried the LTSB too, but is very slow, so I ran the version of Gandalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, neofita said: Gandalf's PE is not a full OS, it runs all in RAM without any disk I/O W10 is too bloated for your netbook, at most you can try LTSB version Linux is the best option IMHO regards I know that Gandalf's PE does not load the system completely, but even by pressing the RAM it has better performance than the LTSB, there was no thought to put Linux. I wanna try a Windows version because who's going to use actually is my mother and she doesn't know anything about Linux windows only, but I'll take a look at this distribution that indicated, do you know if she has the Windows-like interface, or if you know of another that is easier for a user who has used Windows for almost 50 years does not find so different from what is used? Thanks in advanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trufpal Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, JeepWillys58 said: I already tried the LTSB too, but is very slow, so I ran the version of Gandalf. I'm sorry to say this. But if LTSB is very slow, then you are out of luck with Win 10. You should get better performance with Win 7/8 or Linux as some people already suggested here. If you want to try Linux, check Linux Mint MATE. It's one of the most beginner friendly distros out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go0gle Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Try this; Windows Enterprise LTSB 2016 64bit - 2018.04 - SystemCore - LIteOS made by LiteOS, size only 1,4 GB. https://litewinos.blogspot.se/2018/04/windows-enterprise-ltsb-2016-64bit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, trufpal said: I'm sorry to say this. But if LTSB is very slow, then you are out of luck with Win 10. You should get better performance with Win 7/8 or Linux as some people already suggested here. If you want to try Linux, check Linux Mint MATE. It's one of the most beginner friendly distros out there. I'm grateful for your willingness to help and everyone else too, I'm going to take a look at Mint and download the iso for install and see if it fits. Once again I appreciate your help mate! 8 minutes ago, go0gle said: Try this; Windows Enterprise LTSB 2016 64bit - 2018.04 - SystemCore - LIteOS made by LiteOS, size only 1,4 GB. https://litewinos.blogspot.se/2018/04/windows-enterprise-ltsb-2016-64bit.html Thanks for the help mate, I'm going to access the link to see how it is, you know whether it is possible to add the language pack pt-BR, as my hand speak only Portuguese. Thank you for your help and for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepWillys58 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, go0gle said: Try this; Windows Enterprise LTSB 2016 64bit - 2018.04 - SystemCore - LIteOS made by LiteOS, size only 1,4 GB. https://litewinos.blogspot.se/2018/04/windows-enterprise-ltsb-2016-64bit.html Did you know if it has another local to download, because the Mega turned crap and how the file is divided into several parts he doesn't allow you to download without creating a mess of user account. In my opinion these types of file servers are a real garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2004 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Stick Windows Xp Pro sp3 on it.. will be better than windows 10.. faster at least.. can be run on 2 gb of memory.. or Windows 7 ultimate and turn off half of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debebee Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 If all you want to do is Browse the web and do MS office, I don't see any advantage doing to Windows 10 on low-specced hardware.. As I said, Windows 7 will still do the job for you.. or any light Linus Distro (e.g. MINT XFCE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecarion Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just to be clear, you don't have any hardware ? At this moment, you can't buy (or borrow) one new SSD (and perhaps at least add 2 Go for the RAM) ? Because that's true you PC is very old (or too limited). In that case, you can try to (re)build a light W10 but it's might be complicated. Are you a little familiar with any tools (dism, NTLite, MSMG toolkit, etc) ? To give a few examples : remove Cortana, Defender, etc disable service such as defragsvc, WSearch, etc etc Because if you really want to keep W10 that's the only way. Unless you find and trust the release build by a team ? Good luck because there are plenty of choice (and that's true also about Linux (TrueOS, Debian, Lubuntu, etc, etc, etc). PS : No I won't advice PowerShell (because that's right, it has never work fine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 14 hours ago, JeepWillys58 said: Memory 2 GB DDR2 SO-DIMM SDRAM The only Microsoft OS that would run on a 2 GB RAM without constipation is Windows XP (or earlier.) A much better idea would be to ensure a total config of at least 4 GB RAM so that you can run LTSB with some deal of comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoopenstein Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I have one of those. I put an extra 1GB ram in it. Windows 7 Starter edition was poo. That's probably why the things never caught on and sold. I did the Windows 7 Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. Took about 15 minutes to upgrade. It's much better and didn't seem to slow it down. If you can restore to original, PM me if you're interested in Anytime Upgrade (it still might work). I'd do that and try to install dual boot system with Linux Mint (32 bit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ecarion Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Indeed, that's true and it's also another bad point for W10. It was a far better by the past. Because one update (under W7 and W8) didn't need a huge time (despite a SSD, count at least 30 minutes and sometimes it could be worst with W10))... The speed to download was improved over the time. But at the contrary, the process to install any update is very long (shutdown the PC then reboot might be a better idea sometimes). Recently Microsoft has made a promise to improve it. Finally they learned ? Because the last update (april 2018) was very fast. PS : In the case, I won't advice to upgrade the OS (to give one example, it might be a bad idea if you want to replace W10_version1607 by W10_version1803). Because sometimes it's just buggy (and I definitively rather to proceed one clean (re)installation (from the iso)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nOkialpha Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 if you willing to learn and want to create your streamlined version of windows then read this thread created by @zavana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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