Matsuda Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Microsoft has announced some changes in tow for its Edge browser as well, claiming that webpages will load and render "significantly faster" in the Fall Creators Update. The firm says that with EdgeHTML 16 in the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, it has enabled independent rendering for more sites, which boosts their performance. This has been done by adding full support for the following three types of elements: - "select" control - "canvas" element - certain "svg" elements This has lead to performance improvements in various scenarios including content processing, iterative operations, and scrolling via the rendering thread even when the main thread is busy. Transitioning rendering to a separate thread has also increased the efficiency on multi-core CPUs. The company states that this allows applications to effectively utilize their allotted frames in script-driven animations, which are present in complex visualizations and games. With EdgeHTML 16, Microsoft is also introducing independent rendering support for some SVG elements, such as Markers, Masks, and Patterns. As a result, sites which utilize these elements will load a lot faster in the Fall Creators Update. In addition, the introduction of independent rendering will also result in enhancements for 2D canvas elements. Microsoft says that its telemetry data showed that the presence of 2D canvas elements was the primary reason behind independent rendering being disabled on various websites. The firm claims that it tested EdgeHTML 15 and EdgeHTML 16 on two identical Surface Book devices, and the latter showed a 43% improvement over the other, thanks to independent rendering. Microsoft states that you can preview these changes and notice the improvements in "recent" Windows Insider builds, ahead of the general availability of the Fall Creators Update.Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Quote Websites will load 'significantly faster' in Microsoft Edge with the Fall Creators Update . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioHazard Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. I totally agree until then I won’t be using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. ( ... ) Agreed... 1+ 37 minutes ago, dcs18 said: ( ... ) Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — ( ... ) It never did it here - from XP times 'till now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. IE and Edge form a good customer base for Adguard program. But that aside, I agree with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virge Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Edge is bloatware and not portable, I use it to download Chrome then disable it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg334 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I use Chrome often but go to Edge occasionally also. Often times it takes Chrome forever to block all of the ads for a site which makes loading slow. Edge will load the same site fairly quickly because it just loads the site ads and all and doesn't have to take the time to block them. I don't like the ads at all either but a lot of the reason is because we are told that ads slow down your online experience. I use Chrome anyway because it is supposed to be faster with the ad blockers and its what my phone uses but It seems to me that loading ads on edge is quicker than waiting on ad blocking programs to block them in chrome at least to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Undertaker said: 10 hours ago, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. IE and Edge form a good customer base for Adguard program. But that aside, I agree with your statement. My reference was to 3rd party add-on support — you must be referring to the program, Adguard For Windows (does Adguard have a add-on for Edge and Internet Explorer?) There's no way for me to check, since Internet Explorer is locked-down on my systems at multiple layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Edge has been my secondary browser; nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvinxi Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, dcs18 said: My reference was to 3rd party add-on support — you must be referring to the program, Adguard For Windows (does Adguard have a add-on for Edge and Internet Explorer?) There's no way for me to check, since Internet Explorer is locked-down on my systems at multiple layers. Yes it has native adblock extensions. You choose. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/adguard-adblocker/9mz607gwkbs7https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/ghostery/9nblggh52ngzhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/adblock/9nblggh4rfhkhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/adblock-plus/9nblggh4r9nzhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/ublock-origin/9nblggh444l4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, dcs18 said: My reference was to 3rd party add-on support — you must be referring to the program, Adguard For Windows (does Adguard have a add-on for Edge and Internet Explorer?) There's no way for me to check, since Internet Explorer is locked-down on my systems at multiple layers. Yes, I was referring to the Adguard For WIndows Program. It supports both IE as well as Edge. Extension/addon-wise, Adguard is only on Edge but not on IE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 2:28 AM, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/ublock-origin/9nblggh444l4 ublock origin, we have the best ad blocker for Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Sylence said: On 8/19/2017 at 3:28 AM, dcs18 said: . . . . . . . advertisements, too — the problem with Edge (and Internet Explorer) when compared with Firefox, is not that of loading. In fact, Edge (and Internet Explorer) were already loading faster than Firefox on default settings — the biggest issue is a lack of a wide 3rd party add-on support which empowers other Users to tune-up their Firefox against ads. and to also customize it as per personal preference. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/ublock-origin/9nblggh444l4 ublock origin, we have the best ad blocker for Edge. There was this time when some of us (including me) would engage ourselves in a needless debate argument on the best ad. blocker — most of us have realized since, that best depends on not just the ad. blocker but more so; on the one who configures the ad. blocker (and other related stuff.) That been said, look forward to see a screenshot of the best example of ad. blocking on your Microsoft Edge — challenging sites for an ad. blocker would be Softexia or 2BaKSa (you can choose any challenging sites of your choice, though — they just need to be infested with advertisements.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If edge would have similar functionality as I.E. examples, favourites, Norton Vault, translator, Epson web print and also some other ad-ons I would give up on I.E. I.E. works, the it does not I have to occasionally sign out to get it working again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokain Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Edge is a really underrated browser (well not really it's a mobile app) that has made downloading chrome as soon as windows 10 is installed a much smooth experience compared to Internet Explorer. Also I love how it crashes every single time when I try and use it for more than 5min. It definitely hates modified windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BimBamSmash Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I don't need websites to load faster in this time and date. I care how safer and easier it is to use the browser; how easy it is to build add-ons for the browser; the verity of add-ons built for it, how much more I can gain with those add-ons without sacrificing performance and resource consumption. I want malware detection to be better; fraud and phishing to be taken cared of. I want it to be designed such that it makes me genuinely feel like I am in charge when it comes to privacy; when it comes to data collection, when it comes to maintaining my choice of default browser. By the looks of things though, MS marketing team believes folks like me are in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 For most part, websites loading faster is directly related to safety, privacy and ease of using the browser — areas where the (non default) Firefox is unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokain Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 dcs18 speaking the truth, remove all the garbage and bullshit like adblocking and gazillion of extensions, clear the cache and you got yourself the fastest browser regardless the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Well, the truth is . . . . . . . implement stringent policies and checkpoints that prevent garbage and bullshit from loading into the cache in the very first place so that the fastest browser continues to remain fast without having to remove or clear anything — the "prevention is better than cure" adage holds true for browsers (in fact more so.) Nothing plays a bigger role in such policies than a finely deployed ad. blocker — unless one lacks the capability to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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