Batu69 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The raids targeted people accused of posting threats, coercion and incitement to racism on social media, reports The New York Times. Germany is serious about cracking down on hate speech on social media. German police on Tuesday raided the homes of 36 people accused of hateful postings on social media, reported The New York Times. The posts reportedly included "threats, coercion and incitement to racism." The raids, performed by officers for Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office, mostly targeted people accused of political right-wing incitement but also included two people accused of left-wing extremism and one person accused of making threats based on a person's sexual orientation. The Federal Criminal Police Office and Germany's Federal Ministry of the Interior didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. "The still high incidence of punishable hate posting shows a need for police action," said Holger Münch, president of the Federal Criminal Police Office, according to the Times. "Our free society must not allow a climate of fear, threat, criminal violence and violence either on the street or on the internet." In April, Germany's cabinet approved strict new standards that would force social media sites like Facebook and Twitter to regulate fake news and hate speech. The draft law calls for sites to delete at least 70 percent of inappropriate and illegal posts within 24 hours of their postings. If they fail to comply, they could be fined as much as €50 million ($53 million). The draft law is now being debated by German officials. Article source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Germany don't have no freedom of speech , In the USA hate groups can get a permit to rally , If the cops would come to peoples house over this in the USA they would be sued in a court of law. It just shows peoples ignorance in the EU . Lets hide the fact people hates in hopes it will go away while the problem is boiling and very much alive . After all Germany tried to hide what there government did when Hitler was in power and he was one the biggest racist that ever existed . It should be the sites that do something about it and the Government should not have to get involved . But were it's legal in the USA there not really breaking any laws on these sites witch are USA based. There is no such thing as a free society, you're free tell you break one of there laws and laws are forever changing. I bet people in Germany have been posting stuff like this on the internet like people in many other countries do every since they made the WWW and this week in 2017 they decide to try too stop it now and people will just go underground with it and it don't solve the problem or make it go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steven36 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 In the states it's the businesses job to protect itself against this kind of thing at work you could be fired and lose you're job but what you believe or say is you're own business at home. YouTube has took down raciest videos and banned them and things in the past to protect there own interest . The EU has been threatening the USA Tech giants along time that they were going to sue them for not taking down these post and what happens these sites want take down these post because of freedom of speech laws in the USA . So Gremany are going sue there own people if they don't like it why don't they put blocks up on these sites like most of the EU does the TPB? After all it's the sites fault that they allow it . People are going to hate regardless if you stick them in jail or not if you stick them in jail then they just kill each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 hours ago, steven36 said: If the cops would come to peoples house over this in the USA they would be sued in a court of law Actually, that depends. If you physically threaten me online I can have you arrested for that. It is the manner and way the threat is communicated that determines whether a law has been broken, and even then laws in all states are not the same. So the situation could exist that person 'A' threatens person 'B' who lives in another state. The threat is not illegal in person A's state but is in person B's. If reported to police they could issue a warrant and extradition for person A to be tried for violating the law in person B's state. There could also be violations of federal law involved, in which case it would be the FBI or USMS knocking on the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togijak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 5 hours ago, steven36 said: Germany don't have no freedom (of speech) When you hold your mouth and accept everything the state does living in Germany is OK, but if you need freedom, is living in Germany like living in prison. Accept all the government activity or better leave this fucking country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 hours ago, straycat19 said: Actually, that depends. If you physically threaten me online I can have you arrested for that. Really that has nothing too do with freedom of speech though .. 1st off you have know who the person is you're dealing with real info and then you would have to prove it in a court of law witch is not always easy to do and they may not even rule in you're favor.. if it was people would just make up stuff to take people they don't like too court. I seen people try to frame one of my friends up onetime for something he didn't do and I overhead what this guy said over the public airways and i let my friend subpoena me to court also one other guy came on my friends behalf that overhead it too and we got it threw out of court because he was running his mouth saying how he was going get even with my friend , blah blah, blah and I never had meet him before. Supreme Court: Online Threats Aren't a Crime Unless You Really Meant It http://gizmodo.com/supreme-court-online-threats-legal-as-long-as-you-dont-1708190038 Quote In a closely watched decision that weighs the protection of free speech against protecting people from online abuse, the Supreme Court today ruled in favor of people being scary dicks on the internet. The Court overturned the conviction of a Pennsylvania man, Anthony Elonis, whose Facebook tirades about murdering his estranged wife, an FBI agent, and schoolchildren landed him in prison. Elonis published a disturbing series of Facebook posts Come on man get with reality this is the internet and I have seen some really nasty trolls on the internet who have been threatening people for years , they have a sickness and it's not really nothing you can do.. Quote With a few exceptions, the free speech provisions of the First Amendment bar federal, state, and local governments from directly censoring the Internet. The primary exception has to do with obscenity, which does not enjoy First Amendment protection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_States#Deleting_Online_Predators_Act_.28DOPA.29 most censorship laws that ever passed in some states are to protect children and not grown ups and it's a good thing someone has to protect them ... I think the state you live in is one of few states that even have such online harassment laws for grownups and the last time i checked there is 49 more states and this not a federal law. But 49 states have laws to protect children from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Frau Merkel, search for hate speech on the posts of the countless Jihadi killers & rapists inside Germany! Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togijak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 @pc71520 nobody is saying that that "online hate speech" was OK and personally I am against political right-wing but in Germany you can be arrested for ideas in your brain if you are stupid enough to talk about. A other sample for german law is that you will be arrested if you share this books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 22/6/2017 at 3:41 PM, Togijak said: in Germany you can be arrested for ideas in your brain if you are stupid enough to talk about. The "hate speech" theory is just a tool to suppress reactions against illegal immigration. European Muslimization in excess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pc71520 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Togijak said: ZIP it, do Not react, and let the New World Order execute its plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 joke in germany ww2 dentist out of business as no person dare open mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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