humble3d Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Half of people believe fake facts Around 50% of us are susceptible to believing we’ve experienced fictitious events, University of Warwick research finds False memory study included over 400 people Raises questions around the authenticity of memories used in forensic investigations, court rooms. Misinformation in the news can create incorrect collective memories, affecting behaviour and attitudes of society. Many people are prone to ‘remembering’ events that never happened, according to new research by the University of Warwick. In a study on false memories, Dr Kimberley Wade in the Department of Psychology demonstrates that if we are told about a completely fictitious event from our lives, and repeatedly imagine that event occurring, almost half of us would accept that it did. Over 400 participants in ‘memory implantation’ studies had fictitious autobiographical events suggested to them — and it was found that around 50% of the participants believed, to some degree, that they had experienced those events. Participants in these studies came to remember a range of false events, such as taking a childhood hot air balloon ride, playing a prank on a teacher, or creating havoc at a family wedding. 30% of participants appeared to ‘remember’ the event — they accepted the suggested event, elaborated on how the event occurred, and even described images of what the event was like. Another 23% showed signs that they accepted the suggested event to some degree and believed it really happened. Dr Wade and colleagues conclude that it can be very difficult to determine when a person is recollecting actual past events, as opposed to false memories — even in a controlled research environment; and more so in real life situations. These findings have significance in many areas — raising questions around the authenticity of memories used in forensic investigations, court rooms, and therapy treatments. Moreover, the collective memories of a large group of people or society could be incorrect — due to misinformation in the news, for example — having a striking effect on people’s perceptions and behaviour. Dr Wade comments on the importance of this study: “We know that many factors affect the creation of false beliefs and memories — such as asking a person to repeatedly imagine a fake event or to view photos to “jog” their memory. But we don’t fully understand how all these factors interact. Large-scale studies like our mega-analysis move us a little bit closer. “The finding that a large portion of people are prone to developing false beliefs is important. We know from other research that distorted beliefs can influence people’s behaviours, intentions and attitudes.” Scientists have been using variations of this procedure for 20 years to study how people can come to remember wholly false experiences. Source: University of Warwick Research Reference: Alan Scoboria, Kimberley A. Wade, D. Stephen Lindsay, Tanjeem Azad, Deryn Strange, James Ost, Ira E. Hyman. A mega-analysis of memory reports from eight peer-reviewed false memory implantation studies. Memory, 2016; 1 DOI: 10.1080/09658211.2016.1260747 http://www.warwick.ac.uk/ http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/09658211.2016.1260747 http://sciencebulletin.org/archives/7958.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, humble3d said: Misinformation in the news can create incorrect collective memories, affecting behaviour and attitudes of society. Propaganda same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 "Fact" - it means "reality" and it cannot be any way fake or wrong. Reality is reality. But we have such a proverb. "If you want that somebody believes, you must to lie." - The truth does not believe anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kalju said: "Fact" - it means "reality" and it cannot be any way fake or wrong. Reality is reality. Semanticshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics Stay on earth 36 minutes ago, dufus said: Propaganda same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 52 minutes ago, Kalju said: "Fact" - it means "reality" and it cannot be any way fake or wrong. Reality is reality. But we have such a proverb. "If you want that somebody believes, you must to lie." - The truth does not believe anyone. There's another quote saying: " Hate lies, even in quotes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1 hour ago, dufus said: Propaganda same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 4 hours ago, humble3d said: Half of people believe fake facts Only half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the gas aggressively targets the muscles and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced. When sarin is used in a highly populated area, it usually leads to the deaths of thousands of people. So why are the White Helmets apparently handling bodies without any concern for their skin? https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/ Here good fake story who believe this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxyquestor Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 This is precisely how all 'false flag' operations work. If the media uses enough 'factual' spoken repetition, and adds the same images - again, with extreme repetion, to 'back it up,' it's stunning how most people can be made to believe lies are true. There are still an enormous number of people in the U.S. who believe - with unshakeable faith - that Iraq and Sadam Hussein had something to do with 9/11, and nothing - no facts, no words - can or will change their minds. The same is true about the false flag 'ship attack' that they used to put us into Vietnam. Once people truly believe something happened, something called 'cognitive dissonance' sets in: in order to justify the acts done because of the false flag, their minds HAVE to continue to believe it, or have to admit that they were lied to by their government, and the media (who they were raised and conditioned to trust implicitly), and that with their belief, they allowed their government to destroy innocent people, and thus are complicit in the acts committed; and to admit this would destroy their faith in these organizations, so they choose instead to believe the lie. In spite of all the facts showing how the 9/11 attack could not possibly have happened the way the government insisted it did (and, again, the media - who were clearly complicit in the lies), based on the laws of physics, the limits of the aircraft supposedly used, the lack of any engine parts or wings at the Pentagon, and the existence of an easily-obtained plan called "Operation Northwoods," written years earlier, describing exactly this kind of operation (including all the details), in order to accuse Castro of shooting down a U.S. passenger jet, as an excuse to invade Cuba, they will absolutely refuse to believe that their government would both lie about such a thing, or kill 1400 civilians. Again, "cognitive dissonance." To admit that the people you trust would do such a thing would destroy their lifetime of trust - so they choose to believe the lie that was used to destroy Iraq - who had nothing to do with it. I always wonder why people will buy a story that their logic should tell them can't possibly be true - but it worked, and has worked, hundreds of times throughout history. You have to keep your eyes wide open, and your brain flexible enough to hold two opposing ideas without choosing either as fact, until you can find enough actual data to back one or the other up - or decide that neither is true. For most human beings, this is nearly impossible, especially if one version conflicts with a previously-held belief of long standing, or would make them afraid, insecure and uncomfortable. The above post is an excellent one, and the logic of seeing that there are no gloves being used, no evidence of feces, and that there are 'offical uniforms' being worn by people whose faces can't be seen, are not proof that this didn't happen - but if you add in the fact that our military-industrial complex WANTS to start an action against Assad, it begins to lean toward another 'false flag.' These types of operations are the reason I have no trust in those in charge - follow the money, and it always leads you to the truth - or rather to the lies masquerading as the truth. Good post on this study, OP. The movie (a remake of one made in 1967) "Manchurian Candidate," starring Denzel Washington, goes into a lot of detail on the research of memory control and mind programming, while still managing to be riveting. Our intelligence services have become so good at creating a completely false reality, that it is hard to know the difference. All of our best qualities, and all of our psychological weaknesses, are continually being used against us. Project MK Ultra was the basis for everything they are now doing, and many of these files have finally been declassified - it's a project very worthy of researching, and explains so much about our world taday, and the dream we are walking around in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, galaxyquestor said: Spoiler This is precisely how all 'false flag' operations work. If the media uses enough 'factual' spoken repetition, and adds the same images - again, with extreme repetion, to 'back it up,' it's stunning how most people can be made to believe lies are true. There are still an enormous number of people in the U.S. who believe - with unshakeable faith - that Iraq and Sadam Hussein had something to do with 9/11, and nothing - no facts, no words - can or will change their minds. The same is true about the false flag 'ship attack' that they used to put us into Vietnam. Once people truly believe something happened, something called 'cognitive dissonance' sets in: in order to justify the acts done because of the false flag, their minds HAVE to continue to believe it, or have to admit that they were lied to by their government, and the media (who they were raised and conditioned to trust implicitly), and that with their belief, they allowed their government to destroy innocent people, and thus are complicit in the acts committed; and to admit this would destroy their faith in these organizations, so they choose instead to believe the lie. In spite of all the facts showing how the 9/11 attack could not possibly have happened the way the government insisted it did (and, again, the media - who were clearly complicit in the lies), based on the laws of physics, the limits of the aircraft supposedly used, the lack of any engine parts or wings at the Pentagon, and the existence of an easily-obtained plan called "Operation Northwoods," written years earlier, describing exactly this kind of operation (including all the details), in order to accuse Castro of shooting down a U.S. passenger jet, as an excuse to invade Cuba, they will absolutely refuse to believe that their government would both lie about such a thing, or kill 1400 civilians. Again, "cognitive dissonance." To admit that the people you trust would do such a thing would destroy their lifetime of trust - so they choose to believe the lie that was used to destroy Iraq - who had nothing to do with it. I always wonder why people will buy a story that their logic should tell them can't possibly be true - but it worked, and has worked, hundreds of times throughout history. You have to keep your eyes wide open, and your brain flexible enough to hold two opposing ideas without choosing either as fact, until you can find enough actual data to back one or the other up - or decide that neither is true. For most human beings, this is nearly impossible, especially if one version conflicts with a previously-held belief of long standing, or would make them afraid, insecure and uncomfortable. The above post is an excellent one, and the logic of seeing that there are no gloves being used, no evidence of feces, and that there are 'offical uniforms' being worn by people whose faces can't be seen, are not proof that this didn't happen - but if you add in the fact that our military-industrial complex WANTS to start an action against Assad, it begins to lean toward another 'false flag.' These types of operations are the reason I have no trust in those in charge - follow the money, and it always leads you to the truth - or rather to the lies masquerading as the truth. Good post on this study, OP. The movie (a remake of one made in 1967) "Manchurian Candidate," starring Denzel Washington, goes into a lot of detail on the research of memory control and mind programming, while still managing to be riveting. Our intelligence services have become so good at creating a completely false reality, that it is hard to know the difference. All of our best qualities, and all of our psychological weaknesses, are continually being used against us. Project MK Ultra was the basis for everything they are now doing, and many of these files have finally been declassified - it's a project very worthy of researching, and explains so much about our world taday, and the dream we are walking around in. A belief may be compared to a cistern plus a pipe plus a tap. The tap can be turned on, and the belief can influence the action, but neither happens without an additional stimulus. When a man is believing something, there must exist in him either appropriate words, or appropriate images, or, at the very least, appropriate muscular adjustments. Any of these, given certain additional circumstances(which correspond to turning on the tap), will produce action, and this action may be such as to show an outside observer what it is that is being believed; this is particularly the case if the action consists in pronouncing appropriate words. The impulse to action, given the right stimulus, is inherent in the presence of words, images, or muscular adjustments. To entertain an idea vividly and not act upon it is difficult. If, alone at night, you read a story in which a man is stabbed in the back, you will have an impulse to press your chair tight against the wall. Booth the actor (the brother of Lincoln’s assassin), on one occasion when he was playing Macbeth under the influence of liquor, refused to be killed, and chased Macduff murderously all through the stalls. It is unwise to read a ghost story just before walking through a churchyard at midnight. As these examples show, when an idea is entertained without belief, the impulse to belief is not absent but is inhibited. Belief is not something added to an idea previously merely entertained, but something subtracted from an idea, by an effort, when the idea is considered without being accepted. Another example is the difficulty that uneducated people feel about hypotheses. If you say, “Let us suppose so-and-so and see what comes of the supposition,” they will tend either to believe what you suppose, or to think that you are wasting your time. Source: Russell, Bertrand. Human Knowledge: Its Scope and Limits. the problem with today's world, is that the public media in EU and US is controlled by the zionist regime and some people from US. there are a lot of people in EU or US that feel this and feel that they're being lied to and know the truth, but they can't tell it effectively to a lot of people, because they don't have the control over the mass media. however, it's totally different in independent countries such as China, Russia and Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galaxyquestor Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 9:09 AM, dufus said: Semanticshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics Stay on earth Which Earth? The flat earth that everyone knew for hundreds of years was a 'fact,' or the round Earth, that we know today is a fact? The 'fact' that it was impossible for humans to fly using any device? Most people of the time when the Wright Brothers flew their first flight in was so astounding, that people had to see it before they believed it - and was for years afterwards insisted - even by scientists at the time - that it was impossible, and therefore was a hoax. There are thousands of examples of 'facts' that were later proven to be untrue - but the 'facts' that we believe (false or otherwise) SHAPE our reality, and if the facts that you have based your reality on are false, then your reality is also, to a certain degree, false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Exactkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitox Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, saeed_dc said: the problem with today's world, is that the public media in EU and US is controlled by the zionist regime and some people from US. there are a lot of people in EU or US that feel this and feel that they're being lied to and know the truth, but they can't tell it effectively to a lot of people, because they don't have the control over the mass media. however, it's totally different in independent countries such as China, Russia and Iran. the 1st part was interesting but the 2nd is very questionable, especially when coming from someone from a country known to deeply hate israel. just apply the quote you mentioned to yourself and you know that your analysis can be just as fucked as those you complained of. just because you are a jew doesn't mean you believe in zionism... i've step in on that article the other day, can you tell me if it's right or wrong?? https://tribune.com.pk/story/1374043/iran-cleric-says-bad-driving-sin-700-die-new-year/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 4 hours ago, flitox said: the 1st part was interesting but the 2nd is very questionable, especially when coming from someone from a country known to deeply hate israel. just apply the quote you mentioned to yourself and you know that your analysis can be just as fucked as those you complained of. just because you are a jew doesn't mean you believe in zionism... i've step in on that article the other day, can you tell me if it's right or wrong?? https://tribune.com.pk/story/1374043/iran-cleric-says-bad-driving-sin-700-die-new-year/ Son your entire life is questionable. I know that myself, and I never said all the Jewish people are zionist. I don't know where you got that lol. oh tribune.com? Yeah that's one of the sites known to spread bullshit, randomly read some of their news before about Iran, nothing surprising there, the same bullshit, Lies and hateful speech happen in article and they mix them with some facts and number, like that mentioned article, feed them to the people, and that's how they buy themselves reputation and make people believe whatever they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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