Reefa Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Quote A lawsuit that accuses Cloudflare of providing services to alleged 'pirate' sites has been expanded. In an amended complaint, adult outfit ALS Scan now seeks to hold hosting providers OVH and Steadfast Networks liable for infringement, alongside operators and affiliates of several image hosting sites. Faced with non-cooperative ‘pirate’ sites, copyright holders have begun targeting web services with demands for them to stop serving errant platforms. A lot of attention has focused on search engines, domain name registrars, and advertisers, who are frequently asked to do more to counter online piracy. This summer, adult entertainment publisher ALS Scan took it up a notch, taking legal steps to hold several third-party services accountable for the actions of several pirate sites “with no apparent function other than to display infringing [ALS] adult content.” In a complaint filed at a California federal court, ALS Scan targeted CloudFlare and the advertising network JuicyAds over image copyright infringement carried out by the users of pirate sites (full list below) they service. “The pirate sites would not be able to thrive were it not for third party service providers who provide valuable services to these sites,” ALS wrote. Last month, JuicyAds was cleared of any wrongdoing and the case against it was dismissed. However, Cloudflare is still a defendant and in an amended complaint filed earlier this month, other companies have now been dragged into the dispute. First up is well-known hosting provider OVH, which made the headlines earlier this month when it was targeted by police seeking to shut down private tracker What.cd. ALS Scan says that OVH (based in France and Canada) is responsible for providing hosting and related services to pirate sites. Also under fire is United States hosting provider Steadfast Networks. According to ALS, like OVH this Chicago-based company also hosts illegal sites, including “pirate” image hosting platform Imagebam.com. This is a very popular site indeed, currently ranked #680 in the world by SimilarWeb with more than 40m visits per month. According to ALS, Dolphin Media Ltd is the Hong Kong-based company behind an image hosting site operating from Imgchilli.net. Again, ALS characterizes this as a pirate platform but instead of Dolphin merely being the host, it’s claimed the company also owns and operates the service. Finally, ALS names Hivelocity Ventures as a new defendant. According to the adult outfit, Hivelocity hosts ‘pirate’ sites including namethatpornstar.com. “The pirate sites would not be able to thrive were it not for third party service providers who provide valuable services to these sites. These third party providers include hosts and content delivery networks,” the amended complaint reads. According to ALS, when Cloudflare learned of this lawsuit its lawyers contacted ALS offering to hand over the information it holds on the pirate sites in question, but only in exchange for a release of liability. While that doesn’t appear to have been granted, Cloudflare did begin to play ball. “Eventually Cloudflare identified the OVH Companies as the primary host of some of the sites in question,” the company adds, noting that despite “numerous notifications of infringement”, OVH has continued to provide hosting services to pirate sites. “On information and belief, the OVH Companies have failed to implement and enforce a repeat infringer policy,” ALS adds. US-based host Steadfast Networks is subjected to the same criticism. The company allegedly received numerous infringement notifications on which it failed to act, and has failed to “implement or enforce a repeat infringer policy by removing Imagebam.com from its servers.” In respect of ImgChilli and owner Dolphin, ALS has nothing good to say either. “This is no site like dropbox.com, however, which caters to consumers who want to share family pictures or personal oversize files. Instead, Dolphin offers to pay imgchili.net members $4.50 per thousand views of images uploaded to imgchili.net,” the complaint reads. “Dolphin is not offering to pay members money for page views of uploaded materials to encourage consumers to share pictures of their vacations. On information and belief, Dolphin provides monetary incentives to induce members to steal and upload massive galleries of infringing adult content.” In summary, ALS says that while some of the defendants may claim safe harbor under the DMCA, they do not qualify for its protections. “ALS denies that any would apply, but if they do, such safe harbors have been lost through ignoring red flags of infringement, ignoring actual notifications of infringement, failure to adopt and reasonably implement a repeat infringer policy and failure to accommodate, and interference with, standard technical measures,” the amended complaint reads. If successful, ALS is demanding actual damages of no less than $10m, statutory damages, disgorgement of defendants’ profits, trebling of damages, costs and attorneys’ fees, plus preliminary and permanent injunctive relief. The full list of the pirate sites in the complaint: Quote a. imgchili.net (Dolphin, Cloudflare, OVH) b. namethatpornstar.com (Hivelocity) c. slimpics.com (Cloudflare) d. cumonmy.com (Cloudflare) e. bestofsexpics.com (Cloudflare) f. stooorage.com (Cloudflare, OVH) g. greenpiccs.com (Cloudflare) h. imagebam.com (Steadfast) i. imgsen.se (Cloudflare) j. imgspice.com (Cloudflare) k. imgspot.org (Cloudflare) l. img.yt (Cloudflare) m. vipergirls.to (Cloudflare) n. pornwire.net (Cloudflare) o. fboom.me (Cloudflare) p. imgflash.net (Cloudflare) q. imgtrex.com (Cloudflare) source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bausch Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I don't get it. How could any of these services, including Cloud Flare, how could they be responsible? If I rent an apartment to somebody, and they use it for something illegal, they should be persecuted not me. These services now have the opportunity to either standup for themselves and their customers, potentially gaining more trust and business. Or they could throw their clients under the bus, and probably loose trust and business with other potential customers. A legal battle is not a picnic, but the judicial system should not permit trolling and bullying. Yes, content owners do have rights, but that does not mean they own everybody's behind to get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 52 minutes ago, Bausch said: I don't get it. How could any of these services, including Cloud Flare, how could they be responsible? If I rent an apartment to somebody, and they use it for something illegal, they should be persecuted not me. These services now have the opportunity to either standup for themselves and their customers, potentially gaining more trust and business. Or they could throw their clients under the bus, and probably loose trust and business with other potential customers. A legal battle is not a picnic, but the judicial system should not permit trolling and bullying. Yes, content owners do have rights, but that does not mean they own everybody's behind to get to it. That's not the law in most states. A landlord can be held responsible for maintaining a common nuisance if they rent to drug dealers and do nothing to alleviate the situation. In other words you are responsible for your tenants and for knowing what your tenants are doing on your property. In some states, your property could be confiscated by the state. You may think that is wrong, but in the end the property is yours and you are responsible for what takes place on it. As far as these services go, Cloudflare already started throwing their clients under the bus. I understand that there is a list of all Cloudflare clients that host illegal content that is going to be used to force Cloudflare to cease their business partnerships and then used to force the hosting services to remove the sites. I have a feeling in 10 years there won't be any sites hosting illegal content, that if you want to deal in those things you will have to do so through private FTP sites. Trolling and bullying, that's a unique way to state what a company can do to protect its property. The fact that it is totally legal is the point. If a site wants to host illegal content or links to illegal content, then they and their providers, hosts, whatever, are going to be bullied. Their is an old law still on the books called RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations), that was enacted to deal with the mobs of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, that has to do with conspiracy to commit a crime. The businesses hosting sites, providing protection, the site owners, and posters of illegal content could all be charged under this law. Especially since the first three are making a small fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Bausch said: I don't get it. How could any of these services, including Cloud Flare, how could they be responsible? If I rent an apartment to somebody, and they use it for something illegal, they should be persecuted not me. These services now have the opportunity to either standup for themselves and their customers, potentially gaining more trust and business. Or they could throw their clients under the bus, and probably loose trust and business with other potential customers. A legal battle is not a picnic, but the judicial system should not permit trolling and bullying. Yes, content owners do have rights, but that does not mean they own everybody's behind to get to it. yes, can't agree with you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I never liked Cloudflare but i understand why sites use them they use it to protect them from DDoS and its free or cheap plains . Cloudflare want protect a site if they have a warrant they will give anyone up and they keep logs but i read also Cloudflare provides services to protect those that do DDoS so they be burning the candle on both ends if this true. . places like ALS Scan look awful suspicious because these sites will still exist if they dont use Cloudflare they just will fave to find another CDN . I always suspected Hollywood of paying Hackers to DDoS warez sites even if they go after there host they will just keep looking tell they find one TPB is a good example and most resonantly Warez BB had find a new host .. 1 hour ago, straycat19 said: Trolling and bullying What is you're agenda here ? lol ..This site has warez and stuff and you preach love for Anti Piracy and Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 11 hours ago, steven36 said: What is you're agenda here ? lol ..This site has warez and stuff and you preach love for Anti Piracy and Hollywood. Just because a site has warez doesn't mean that people here use it or condone it. I never said I love Hollywood and am against piracy. If I did I would be a hypocrite. I just post information pertinent to the subject with factual information in the hope that someone will understand why things are the way they are and they need to live with it. It doesn't do any good to rant about something that can't be changed but could only be worse if all the laws were applied. So we should be lucky that we have what we do and can get away with some things for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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