Batu69 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Case “opened” against Microsoft, FAS Russia announces Microsoft’s problems in Russia continues, as the Federal Antimonopoly Service has decided to start an investigation against the Redmond-based software giant amid claims of unfair practices regarding antivirus software in Windows 10. Russian-based security company Kaspersky complained that Microsoft is abusing of its dominant position by forcing users to stick with Windows Defender in Windows 10, while also implementing changes that impact the adoption of third-party software. Founder Eugene Kaspersky explained that Microsoft has reduced the period of time the company offered to software developers for testing purposes from 2 months to 7 days, and this led to many security apps being flagged as incompatible and replaced with Windows Defender. The Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) is now investigating these claims, explaining that Microsoft might violate Part 1, Article 10 of the Federal Law regulating protection of competition. The law “prohibits actions (omissions) of an economic dominant with the dominant position that lead or can lead to preventing, restricting, eliminating competition and (or) infringing the interests of other persons (economic entities) in business activities or consumers at large.” Equality for all companies in Russia Russia says that it’ll look into accusations as it wants “equal conditions” for all companies doing business in the country. “Since Microsoft itself develops antivirus software - Windows Defender that switches on automatically if third-party software fails to adapt to Windows 10 in due time, such actions lead to unreasonable advantages for Microsoft on the software market. Our task is to ensure equal conditions for all participants on this market,” Deputy Head of FAS Anatoly Golomolzin explained in a statement. This isn’t Microsoft’s only problem in Russia, as the government has recently announced that it would ban LinkedIn, the service that Redmond purchased earlier this year, after it failed to move user data on local servers and comply with Russian laws. Furthermore, Microsoft is at the center of Russia’s push off foreign software, with President Vladimir Putin himself seeing the software giant as a main threat to national security, as he believes that products such as Windows and Office could be used by other governments to spy on the country. Microsoft hasn’t yet issued a statement on Kaspersky’s claim or on this investigation started by Russia, but we’ve already contacted the company and we’ll update the article when an answer is received. Article source Kaspersky vs Windows Defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Does anyone know where can buy the world best Russian computers? They are absolutely compatible with Kaspersky produced malware. I mean "Урал", "Искра", "ЕС1022", " ЕС-9051 ", " ПЭВМ ", etc. Important, none don't use Windows Defender. More about Russian computers: https://vk.com/wall-6777336_214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Strange not all antivirus have a problem with Windows 10 I been using NOD32 v8 and as long as i use prerelease updates it works just fine for over a year and NOD32 is at v10 now but v8 works just fine in windows 10 as long you update to the latest modules . I use too use Kaspersky years ago even back then there was tons of stuff it was not compatible with.. so I dont think it never has been truly 100% compatible with Windows. if you use a lot different software you most likely will have problems.. I even got BSOD from it back on XP and Ive not used Kaspersky since 2009 or something . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, steven36 said: Strange not all antivirus have a problem with Windows 10 I been using NOD32 v8 and as long as i use prerelease updates it works just fine for over a year and NOD32 at v10 now but v8 work just fine in windows 10 as long you update to the latest modules . I use too use Kaspersky years ago even back then there was tons of stuff it was not compatible with.. so I dont think it never has been truly 100% compatible with Windows if use use a lot different software. I even got BSOD from it back on XP and Ive not used Kaspersky since 2009 or something . You have understood the problem a bit wrong, should be known to everyone, that world must be comfortable with Russia, but not vice versa. Soon, you can see how Russia will begin to insist back Alaska and will protect interests of russians in US. I already saw a TV program about the indians who came from Siberia, so it means, they were Russians and their interest should be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 27 minutes ago, Kalju said: You have understood the problem a bit wrong, should be known to everyone, that world must be comfortable with Russia, but not vice versa. Soon, you can see how Russia will begin to insist back Alaska and will protect interests of russians in US. I already saw a TV program about the indians who came from Siberia, so it means, they were Russians and their interest should be protected. I dont care about Alaska they sold it too the USA in 1867 so of course the Native Eskimos use to be Russian but they been Americans 149 years ..The Native Americans they say came from ASIA does this mean the USA belong to China? Only people who that live in Alaska and US Environmental Protection Agency cares about that God forsaken place they wont even let us get the minerals out of the ground . They think they save world on peoples expense ..It dont do no good not to pollute what good do it do for USA not to pollute they just send the Jobs to ASIA were they have no laws and we lose jobs and still there's the same amount of pollution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Guess is that it is not good to talk about politics here, because if you get the time, watch for some time Russian TV channels - those that are intended for Russian people. Great if you're not required to use translations and subtitles. It is nightmare, how bad is the whole world, only Russia is like pink semolina, and only the North Korea is same good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Eugene is a smart man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisam Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Mr. Kaspersky's claim sounds kind of phony. Only a moron shoul feel that one of the worst antivirus around, Windows Defender, represents any competence for a first line anti-virus As for Russian claims for Alaska, I feel they are rather fair a long as they agree with Hungary's own claims to recover the year 1490 borders when King Matthias, which included Romania, states of former republic of Yougoslavia, Slvovakia, Poland and part of Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 13 hours ago, Kalju said: Guess is that it is not good to talk about politics here, Dont bring them up and you want here my opinion on them 11 hours ago, luisam said: Mr. Kaspersky's claim sounds kind of phony. I fully agree about this part 11 hours ago, knowledge said: Eugene is a smart man If he was so smart his Antivirus would simply work with windows 10 like others do. i would not install this on my PC so i would not recommend it too no one else. if the rest of the world looked out only for there own interest Eugene would of never sold the 1st copy in the USA and they never would of been a Kaspersky USA . I dont see Microsoft looking for own interest really I use windows 10 and I'm not forced to use windows defender . So it looks like they making excuses this version eset dont make new versions of since right when Win 10 came out July 2015 work fine on RS1. Microsoft gives them months before they release a stable build into the wild it will be spring before RS2 come out of beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Well, one thing is clear, that no wise person would not do so or such a things. This is not the good and smart way, how to achieve success in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Kalju said: Well, one thing is clear, that no wise person would not do so or such a things. This is not the good and smart way, how to achieve success in business. Windows defender has been the most used antivirus for years now long before windows 10 1. Back when all these Antivirus was 1st made Microsoft didn't have one. 2. Windows Defender is free it's not better than the paid for ones , It's just most people dont buy security software and it's been that way every since i been on the internet . I started out with AVG free. 3. No matter what OS you must know how to develop on it ..Many people only know how to develop on windows because it's the most easy platform to develop on .. Most none of these developers don't know how to make security software for Linux even if it works on Linux it only detects windows malware not Linux malware so it's only good for servers that share files with windows. 4. Conman sense plays a bigger part than Antivirus do anyway. You need to educate yourself on how to prevent from getting infected in the 1st place. I install a realtime Antivirus just in-case and i do on demand with others it never finds nothing in years and I dont use them at all on Linux .Antivirus is way over rated to began with 5. It's a open software market regardless of were people live or there views love or hate Microsoft 1.5 billion people chose windows. no one else has made a desktop OS so many wants only thing that come close is for phones Android OS. If they dont like it invent something the world wants . only a small % of people use kaspersky to begin with the security software market is packed with competitors. 6. I bet you a 100 bucks Kaspersky new OS will never take the place of windows , Many have tried to make desktop OS to replace windows and many failed. I would love to have a new OS that works for more things than Windows but so far its just a dream . 7. A little less talk and a lot more action ..You can say windows suck tell you turn blue in the face , but if you never invent nothing anything better nothing ever changes . Microsoft has been sued or threatened for being a monopoly every since windows existence and they just get worse as time goes on, because its closed source and there is nothing you can really do expect invent something better witch no one seems to be able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 hours ago, steven36 said: Dont bring them up and you want here my opinion on them I fully agree about this part If he was so smart his Antivirus would simply work with windows 10 like others do. i would not install this on my PC so i would not recommend it too no one else. if the rest of the world looked out only for there own interest Eugene would of never sold the 1st copy in the USA and they never would of been a Kaspersky USA . I dont see Microsoft looking for own interest really I use windows 10 and I'm not forced to use windows defender . So it looks like they making excuses this version eset dont make new versions of since right when Win 10 came out July 2015 work fine on RS1. Microsoft gives them months before they release a stable build into the wild it will be spring before RS2 come out of beta. make me lol Kaspersky vs eset i think not ill never use eset no matter what people say for me Kaspersky much better then eset and u can get Kaspersky Anti-Ransomware free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, knowledge said: make me lol Kaspersky vs eset i think not ill never use eset no matter what people say for me Kaspersky much better then eset I used Kapesky 2006- 2009 , Avast from 2010-2014 , and NOD32 from 2014- present and for me it never mattered because I use Conman sense as well. just Avast had to many false positives and Kaspersky became to much trouble for me too fool with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/kaspersky-files-anti-competitive-complaints-against-microsoft.389901/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbingStorm Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I use nod 32 antivitrus9 on win 10 and it works fine.Runs with zemana antimalware too. On 13/11/2016 at 4:17 PM, steven36 said: 4. Conman sense plays a bigger part than Antivirus do anyway. You need to educate yourself on how to prevent from getting infected in the 1st place. I install a realtime Antivirus just in-case and i do on demand with others it never finds nothing in years and I dont use them at all on Linux .Antivirus is way over rated to began with I completely agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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