Bram Cohen Says New uTorrent Mode is For Private Trackers

[Batu69]

The new 'Altruistic Mode' built into the latest release of uTorrent has been bemusing file-sharers who say they're already generous without a software setting. However, BitTorrent creator Bram Cohen informs TorrentFreak that the feature is aimed at private tracker users who don't want to get into ratio trouble, and it might have a future use too.

 

Last week, BitTorrent Inc. announced a new feature for its uTorrent and BitTorrent clients.

Altruistic Mode is an option buried away in the clients’ preferences that ensures that the downloader who enables it always maintains a share ratio of 2:1. In other words, if they download 1GB their upload will always be 2GB.

 

As subsequently highlighted, many enthusiastic file-sharers simply didn’t ‘get’ the point of the new feature.

By definition, keen file-sharers always try to seed more than they take, so often their ratios are higher than 2:1 already. Equally, those who don’t care about sharing wouldn’t bother enabling the new mode.

 

However, Altruistic Mode itself was developed and subsequently announced by Bram Cohen, the man who invented BitTorrent itself, so it must be useful – right? In discussions with TF, he certainly seems to think so.

 

“The reason for not just continuing to upload until the ratio hits 2:1 is that it won’t always get there. Sometimes a torrent is so overseeded that downloading a complete file guarantees you’ll get less upload than download, even if you keep seeding until the end of time,” Cohen explains.

 

“Almost all the people who are commenting on the public forums are torrent obsessives who already have put in the time and effort and gotten the permissions to get very high seeding ratios. Altruistic Mode is not for them.”

 

Great! So who is the mode designed for then?

“There are some sites with ratio enforcement which make it essentially impossible to get a positive ratio once you’re in arrears without Altruistic Mode,” Cohen explains.

In other words, the new mode is designed for people trying to maintain a decent ratio on private trackers, where site membership itself could hinge on being a good sharer.

 

Depending on site rules, any user can activate the mode and jump on any torrent, safe in the knowledge that their ratio will never get any worse and will only improve, which is perfect for building up a sharing buffer.

 

Cohen also took the time to address those who raised concerns over what would happen if too many people used Altruistic Mode. If everyone tries to upload twice as much as they download, the system breaks down, they argued.

 

“Of course it’s impossible for everybody to have a positive ratio. The people who run seedboxes, or who have super fast net connections, or special permissions to download early, can make it practically impossible for people who don’t have those things to upload more than they download,” he explains.

 

“Altruistic Mode is for those other people. Altruistic Mode is there so people who find themselves in an impossible ratio situation can simply start a whole bunch of things in Altruistic Mode and have a good chance of getting a favorable upload ratio.”

 

With that cleared up from Cohen himself, we’ll leave Altruistic Mode to do its magic. However, BitTorrent’s inventor may not be done with its development just yet.

“In the future I’m thinking of making a feature which downloads eventually but starts out in Altruistic Mode, so that people whose goal is to download the whole file eventually can help others stream it in real-time right from the beginning,” he concludes.

 

TorrentFreak

[RejZoR]

People still use uTorrent? It used to be micro, now it's a fat bloated blob. Transmission QT is so much better.

[straycat19]

Why they wanted to take a good torrent client and create an 'everything but the kitchen sink' program is beyond comprehension.  This is the failure of most good software that does one thing and does it well.  Everyone thinks bigger is better and I always remember the comments made by developers about PCs having huge drives and memory now so what difference does the size of their programs make.  Wish I had recorded that conversation, at the time I just thought they were a bunch of idiots, but it seems that idiocy is contagious.  It must spread through the Microsoft Developer Network. 

[steven36]

Fact is  most private trackers  don't trust new  uTorrent  at all,  most wants you too use a old version .. Some wont let you use new versions  at all  and ones that do  it's not supported  and  if something was too happen you be ban thats why so many still use outdated  uTorrent .  I like Transmission QT myself it has way less bugs than qbittorrent and no ads or unwanted crap like  uTorrent . 

 

[Ryrynz]

On 10/10/2016 at 1:44 AM, RejZoR said:

People still use uTorrent? It used to be micro, now it's a fat bloated blob. Transmission QT is so much better.

 
My installation directory is 4.6MB. Feel free to highlight where this "bloat" lies exactly.

 

On 10/10/2016 at 6:59 AM, steven36 said:

no ads or unwanted crap like  uTorrent . 

 

OML look at all those ads.. 

Easy to spout off about shit when you don't have a clue..
Yes you need to change a few things or download an appropriate config to get it this clean but this isn't exactly time consuming and is well documented on the forum.

[steven36]

4 hours ago, Ryrynz said:

 
My installation directory is 4.6MB. Feel free to highlight where this "bloat" lies exactly.

 

OML look at all those ads.. 

Easy to spout off about shit when you don't have a clue..
Yes you need to change a few things or download an appropriate config to get it this clean but this isn't exactly time consuming and is well documented on the forum.

It  use too be documented here you're  telling me I dont  havee a clue ? You  dont have clue   about me  is the truth. when i use to tell people how too remove the ads  here but since you  can just download a pro portable  from portableappz with no ads there's no need . You're  version still has the upgrade to pro ad.  you just have it were you can't see i it.  Pro version dont have that ad . The one i have is just  2.80 MB on my portable hhd it's pro  .  I also have TransmissionPortable  and qBittorrentPortable for windows.  Space is not  a issue  what I meant  by bloat  is  unneeded features no one wants .

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How to Remove Ads from uTorrent

Open uTorrent and go to Options > Preferences > Advanced. Here you will see a large list of flags for the app and a filter box. Search and disable the following filters:-

• offers.left_rail_offer_enabled
• left_rail_offer
• gui.show_plus_upsell
• offers.sponsored_torrent_offer_enabled
• sponsored_torrent_offer_enabled
• bt.enable_pulse
• gui.show_notorrents_node
• offers.content_offer_autoexec

Search the Above Filters one by one and set the value to- FALSE

 

 

When i  boot into Linux Transmission is pre installed in my distro  because Linux Dirtsos  are hosted  on torrent  as well  as direct  links it dont have to be configured  or need a pro version too get rid of  the ads its clean out of the box  I dont even have to install  it even.

 

 

  . utorrent dont have no version  for Linux  anymore since  Ubuntu 12.04 they never updated it for new distros  and since its closed source no one can fork it  .  There's too many opensource  clients  to worry about  the adware infested crap  . I only use torrent clients very much over on private p2p  . I use  debirder  for public p2p  witch gives me direct links 

 

And it still dont change the fact 
 

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Most private trackers have a whitelist of allowed clients. deluge, qBittorrent, uTorrent, Transmission and rTorrent are fairly universally accepted. Some trackers have blacklisted more recent versions of uTorrent because they previously included some malware.

Using an unapproved client, or spoofing your client is generally against the rules, and considered cheating, and a ban-able offense.

Don't auto-update your client. Most private trackers manually white-list new versions after testing. If you upgrade early, you won't be able to download/seed anymore.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/51ay9n/frequently_asked_questions/

 

[Ryrynz]

On 10/12/2016 at 4:27 PM, steven36 said:

It  use too be documented here you're  telling me I dont  havee a clue ? You  dont have clue   about me  is the truth.

Like you said, it's well documented on how to remove them, so why say they're a problem? All programs have features you don't use... 
You're honestly just nitpicking the most popular client used on the internet. If it was so bad it wouldn't have be used by millions, move along.
 

[luisam]

On 9/10/2016 at 8:09 AM, Batu69 said:

Altruistic Mode itself was developed and subsequently announced by Bram Cohen, the man who invented BitTorrent itself, so it must be useful – right?

 

WRONG! This fellow is just trying to explain a stupid option.  Like Bill Gates trying to explain why WindowsME  was the best version ever released... well, he developed Windows itself, so he should know better - right?

[jamesbond]

i still use ut 1.6.1, small and reliable. crashes maybe like once in 1000 hours running. does exactly what it is supposed to: download torrents, nothing more needed.

 

i gave newer versions and other clients a try from time to time, and always went back to ut 1.6.1.

[Pequi]

4 hours ago, jamesbond said:

i still use ut 1.6.1, small and reliable.

2.0.4 Here. Made completely portable by creating an empty file named settings.dat in the install folder. A "massive" 300 KB.

And it fixes those "frequent" crashes you're having, plus half a dozen vulnerabilities.

HTH

[steven36]

8 hours ago, luisam said:

 

WRONG! This fellow is just trying to explain a stupid option.  Like Bill Gates trying to explain why WindowsME  was the best version ever released... well, he developed Windows itself, so he should know better - right?

Fact was like the other fellows explained  older versions  of this client are  good for years they just dont got good magnet handling  so you have to use torrents mostly .  It started  going downhill  after they put ads  in it  ..Its more like Firefox than Windows . Windows  has  always had problems  Windows 3.0  was bad  they fixed it  in 3.1  Windows 98 was bad they  tell they released Windows 98 SE , Windows ME was bad , Windows XP was hated when 1st released everyone  said  the stay Windows 98  forever . Windows ME  crashed  all the time   Windows Vista was bad tell after a few service packs  , Windows 7 was full of bugs  and they got rid of most of them by releasing  SP1 ,  Windows 8 was the beginning of the end of good ideas for Microsoft  . They would have to change a whole lot too make every one happy today.

 

Memory lane: Before everyone loved Windows XP, they hated it

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/memory-lane-before-everyone-loved-windows-xp-they-hated-it/

People think every version of Windows sucks — but is this inevitable?

http://www.winbeta.org/news/people-think-every-version-windows-sucks-inevitable

UT  was nothing  like windows.. Its Like  Firefox because old versions  have always been better  .. Back when version 3 of Firefox  came out  a bunch of  us stayed on extended service of v2  V3 was full of regression .UT  it  was around for years  before  they messed it up  and it still works OK it's they messed it up cosmetically  you can get rid of the ads by buying it or using cracks .

 

[luisam]

1 hour ago, steven36 said:

Windows  has  always had problems

 

An intersting explanation but my intention was not to discuss Windows, just compare the fact that the laureate creator of some program or application defending it's great qualities and how accurate and judicious is the inclusion of some new and revolutionary option doesn't mean he is right. Bram Cohen won't ever recognize that this "Alturistic Mode" is BULLSHIT just as Bill Gates won't recognize that WindowsME and Vista were crap

[steven36]

2 hours ago, luisam said:

 

An intersting explanation but my intention was not to discuss Windows, just compare the fact that the laureate creator of some program or application defending it's great qualities and how accurate and judicious is the inclusion of some new and revolutionary option doesn't mean he is right. Bram Cohen won't ever recognize that this "Alturistic Mode" is BULLSHIT just as Bill Gates won't recognize that WindowsME and Vista were crap

  Bram Cohen is the reason we have Torrents  he invented  the protocol...Bill Gates didn't invent the Internet or did he invent Computers ..He just  made Windows software with other people's help .  Bram Cohen  is right  most  private trackers do require you  keep certain ratio  but its a feature you dont really need because you can achieve this by just simply  seeding  and the feature is a oxymoron because most private trackers ban new versions of the software every since they put ads in it.  In order to get trackers to trust new versions they would have to remove the ads  from the exe . If these private sites really trusted  it would be a different story . But they really dont trust anything  some even went as far as banning windows 10 before lol... Ads are known to track  you  and these sites  dont want there users who have to be logged in being tracked .

 

Father  More Gates Didn't release Vista  like it was, it had been around since 2000 as Loghorn , When  Windows Vista  came out Ballmer  ran Microsoft  then and released it like that and  Ballmer  admitted  it was bad. That proves you can test a OS for years and it still be crap .

 

Ballmer admits Windows Vista was 'biggest mistake'

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2120/20131218/ballmer-admits-windows-vista-was-biggest-mistake.htm

Ballmer says

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Ballmer says his biggest mistake, though, was Longhorn, a software project led by Gates from 2000 to 2006 that never lived up to its grandiose vision. Eventually renamed Vista, the Windows OS was late, lacked key features and paled in comparison to Apple's OS X Tiger.

Stuff Ballmer  done  still hurting Microsoft today like investing in Nokia and them losening billions and Satya Nadella  taking the fall for it lol.

 

[luisam]

1 hour ago, steven36 said:

Bram Cohen  is right  most  private trackers do require you  keep certain ratio  but its a feature you dont really need because you can achieve this by just simply  seeding 

 

You said it:, as simple as that... ordinary, casual torrent users don't want it, private trackers don't need it; so even if Bram Cohen never will recognize the fact: it's BULLSHIT!

By the way, if Project Longhorn was led by Bill Gates untill 2006 and Ballmer admitted Windows Vista was 'biggest mistake', so dixit ... it was no Balmer's mistake; blame it on Bill Gates!

[steven36]

9 minutes ago, luisam said:

 

As simple as that... ordinary, casual torrent users don't want it, private trackers don't need it; so it's BULLSHIT!

 Some people rather go to Prison than jail  too because you  have more freedom but than the chance of you being killed  or abused rises .  If you use public p2p  then the risk rises that you're going get caught.  There's like 5 private  sites to every public one every time  I vist the one i belong too its always full of  people . There closed sites so you dont  know whats going on unless you joined it , and there like public p2p some private sites have lots of people  and some dont.