steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 You cant prove what encrypted data does really , but fact is you can prove microsoft keeps logs because the DOJ has been in court with Microsoft since 2013 ..If you use there services its a fact they have logs Read the 100 + pages you agree too when you install it . If you want know what can and cant do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, steven36 said: You cant prove what encrypted data does really , but fact you can prove microsoft keeps logs because the DOJ has been in court with Microsoft since 2013 ..If you use there services its a fact they have logs So there is no data being stolen and all over the forum spreading that propaganda is a bad thing, you admit it. yes encrypted data can't be very transparent but logs are logs, not stolen data. if a VPN keeps logs it doesn't mean they steal your data. if your mobile operator keeps logs, which of course does it, doesn't mean they steal your data. Microsoft isn't even hiding it, they clearly say they keep logs. if you're really that paranoia then better go after Google for keeping millions of credit card numbers and information and all the passwords and email addresses saved in Google Chrome account. now that's something more sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Read the 100 + pages no its not being stolen because you agreed to let them when you install it , so i block it. . FFS updated January 2016 Microsoft Privacy Statement https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/ Microsoft Services Agreement went in effect August 2015 https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx Quote Microsoft collects data to operate effectively and provide you the best experiences with our services. You provide some of this data directly, such as when you create a Microsoft account, submit a search query to Bing, speak a voice command to Cortana, upload a document to OneDrive, or contact us for support. We get some of it by recording how you interact with our services by, for example, using technologies like cookies, and receiving error reports or usage data from software running on your device. We also obtain data from third parties (including other companies). How is it propaganda when they say they do it even? They are keeping track of the software you install even . It none there business what i install .I block all that crap. Windows 7 and 8 you could opt out on windows 10 you can only turn it down on low unless you use 3rd party tools to block it. Snowden dont need too prove something they admit to doing and you agreed too that's silly If they didn't admit too it then it would be against the law . Why do you think they have all those settings to turn stuff off for privacy ? They didn't put them there for looks, the more you dont turn off the more data they collect. if I didn't have a ip sniffer no way i would use Windows 10 . I dont like the Microsoft Terms and conditions http://www.tenforums.com/general-support/9191-i-dont-like-microsoft-terms-conditions.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 39 minutes ago, steven36 said: Read the 100 + pages no its not being stolen because you agreed to let them when you install it , so i block it. . FFS updated January 2016 Microsoft Privacy Statement https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/ Microsoft Services Agreement went in effect August 2015 https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx How is it propaganda when they say they do it even? They are keeping track of the software you install even . It none there business what i install .I block all that crap. Windows 7 and 8 you could opt out on windows 10 you can only turn it down on low unless you use 3rd party tools to block it. Snowden dont need too prove something they admit to doing and you agreed too that's silly If they admit too then it would be against the law . Why do you think they have all those settings to turn stuff off for privacy ? They didn't put them there for looks the more you dont turn off the more data they collectt. I dont like the Microsoft Terms and conditions http://www.tenforums.com/general-support/9191-i-dont-like-microsoft-terms-conditions.html That's not the right way to look at it. you just trying to mix things up in order to present your opinion-based conclusions. about Snowden, better read that article again to see what I mean. it wasn't about Microsoft's privacy policy. they collect some personal information like address, postal codes, names etc. you already given them by a lot of different ways already, using any of Microsoft's services like Xbox, Hotmail, outlook, many more etc. in the " Usage data. " section, whatever they collect is pretty much what other companies would do if they were instead of Microsoft. search terms are only collected if you use Microsoft Edge browser. Chrome is able to do the same thing and do much worse things with it as the company is very influenced by political acts. the history has shown us, you might haven't noticed. Contacts and relationships. , you enter your contacts in their services, so what. you except them turn their head away from something that is in front of their eyes every day? again Google Android does the same thing with your contacts. all of them are shared and saved in an account and servers kept by Google! worried about Windows' default privacy settings? what about Android then? it automatically uploads all your photos you take with camera into their servers, unless you turn that feature off manually. Location data , very normal. if they have your IP they have your location, and any device connect to the Internet has your IP and location, nothing wrong with it. Content. , they don't really collect anything. they just see what you give them. you put your files in their servers and they can see them. actually any file sharing website out here, thousands of them on the web, can do the same thing. now if Microsoft clearly tells its customer this it doesn't make any difference. so FFS, don't focus on one company, all of them are the same. the best choice for you is to unplug your Internet, satellite and whatever you got and go in the underground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Were is you're link from Microsoft saying they dont do anything? only thing is they say is they do . They will take anything you will give them . If you even made a Microsoft account with you're real name and logs in it on you're PC ever they can tie it to every piece of data they ever got off you .. Windows 10 is tied into the HW ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I never said I have a link for such article. every person every company do the same, they take everything you give them. you except they don't accept that? so for example, you wanna upload your files in your One drive or Google drive or wanna make a Facebook account with your real name, which you should according to the Facebook's law, you want them not to accept that and say, hey we don't need your real info, give us fake ones ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Yes you do need a link without proof you're just wasting my time . I dont go by what forum posters say or what the news say i read it for myself . And they admit to it same reason i stop signing into Google and Facebook they changed there privacy policy . . Tell they say they changed it themselves i will block them all i can i dont block windows updates yet but if they piss me off Ill just nuke windows and put linux on all my pcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just now, steven36 said: Yes you do need a link without proof you're just wasting my time . I dont go by what forum posters say or what the news say i read it for myself . And they admit to it same reason i stop signing into Google and Facebook they changed there privacy policy . . Tell they say they changed it themselves i will block them all i can i dont block windows updates yet but if they piss me off Ill just nuke windows and put linux on all my pcs. you got that wrong, I just explained the privacy statement, didn't say anything more to present proof for that. Yeah so they're all the same, Microsoft is not alone here and never have been. also Linux isn't even a practical option. only for you i guess. for others it doesn't replace Google, Microsoft, Outlook, Windows, Android etc etc.. and Yeah just install your Linux and use it. good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I dont trust corporate America the only thing they done for me was ship my jobs too china. I'm not giving billionaires my data voluntarily to make them more rich. if they want it from me they going have to figure out how to get past my firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, steven36 said: I dont trust corporate America the only they done for me was ship my jobs too china. I'm not giving billionaires my data voluntarily to make them more rich. if they want it from me they going have to figure out how to get past my firewall That's true and yea a good strategy for that. hope you succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: That's true and yea a good strategy for that. hope you succeed Its like this i'm not knocking you for using windows 10 but dont never trust them . especially if you use KMS . They putt WGA in windows XP , And Watt in windows 7 . If windows 10 ever starts selling good and they dont need you as a number anymore no telling what they may do next in a update. I used it 3 months the 1st time and i been using about another month this time because i want to try redstone . After July 29th it would cost me money i can spend on something else. I'm all nice and legal here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, steven36 said: Its like this i'm knocking you for using windows 10 but dont never trust them . especially if you use KMS . They putt WGA in windows XP , And Watt in windows 7 . If windows 10 ever starts selling good and they dont need you as a number anymore no telling what they may do next in a update. Yes I use KMS, like KMSAuto Lite Portable, KMSAuto Net, KMSpico and sometimes Even KMS Tools ;D couldn't really make heads out of the rest, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: Yes I use KMS, like KMSAuto Lite Portable, KMSAuto Net, KMSpico and sometimes Even KMS Tools ;D couldn't really make heads out of the rest, sorry Well when Watt came out it put like 700 anti exploit signatures in windows 7 crackers got around it though . If they switch over to a different system were they sell it as a service were they dont need KMS anymore then it would stop working . Already its changed alot they didn't even give free upgrades a real key they got something planned . Its a sid depended lic . Back years ago they use to could crack windows blinds it was sid deepened but no one has been able too crack it in years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, steven36 said: Well when Watt came out it put like 700 anti exploit signatures in windows 7 crackers got around it though . If they switch over to a different system were they sell it as a service were they dont need KMS anymore then it would stop working . Already its changed alot they didn't even give free upgrades a real key they got something planned . Its a sid depended lic . Back years ago they use to could crack windows blinds it was sid deepened but no one has been able too crack it in years . Yeah maybe they plan something but I don't think they can integrate it in Windows 10, whatever update they add to it..it's not a cloud OS after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: Yeah maybe they plan something but I don't think they can integrate it in Windows 10, whatever update they add to it..it's not a cloud OS after all I hope you're right but they already done integrated SID in windows 10 . And that thing were there putting in redstone were if you need to change hardware gives them even more control if they sell it as service . There replacing phone activation with that it seems lol . I can clean install windows 10 and my SID activates it. without a key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 minute ago, steven36 said: I hope you're right but they already done integrated SID in windows 10 already. And that thing were there putting in redstone were if you need to change hardware gives them even more control if they sell it as service . There replacing phone activation with that it seems lol . which hardware exactly? RAM, CPU, Motherboard, Graphic card, HDD, Monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: which hardware exactly? RAM, CPU, Motherboard, Graphic card, HDD, Monitor? Motherborad or GPU . You're HHD dont effect you're SID . Only way change is to do it something major or use a SID Changer . If you change you're SID it will mess windows up lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, steven36 said: Motherborad or GPU . You're HHD dont effect you're SID . Only way change is to do it something major or use a SID Changer . If you change you're SID it will mess windows up lol . even using this on Windows 10 messes it up? SIDCHG /COMPNAME:compname /F /R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 9 hours ago, saeed_dc said: even using this on Windows 10 messes it up? SIDCHG /COMPNAME:compname /F /R Changing you're sid can mess many things up i used one a few times to activate Windows blinds years ago it did funny things . I would not recommend using tools like these if they fully work on windows 10 you could really mess stuff up and activation will be lest of you're problems . Don't mess mess with you're SID unless you have been trained to do so. http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f217/i-resetted-my-sid-now-system-is-messed-up-543743.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 9 hours ago, steven36 said: Changing you're sid can mess many things up i used one a few times to activate Windows blinds years ago it did funny things . I would not recommend using tools like these if they fully work on windows 10 you could really mess stuff up and activation will be lest of you're problems . Don't mess mess with you're SID unless you have been trained to do so. http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f217/i-resetted-my-sid-now-system-is-messed-up-543743.html Thanks, but since that thread belongs to 2011 and they tried it on Vista, I think I myself better try it on a Windows 10 VM to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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