Next-gen Ultra HD Blu-ray discs probably won’t be cracked for a while

[steven36]

SlySoft shuts down, now DVDFab says it won't crack new AACS 2.0 DRM scheme.

 

 

DVDFab, a software tool for ripping and decrypting DVDs and Blu-ray discs, will not be upgraded to support newer Ultra HD (4K) Blu-ray discs.

 

Fengtao Software, which makes DVDFab, said in a statement that it "will not decrypt or circumvent AACS 2.0 in the days to come. This is in accordance with AACS-LA, (which has not made public the specifications for AACS 2.0), the BDA [Blu-ray Disc Association] and the movie studios." AACS-LA is the body that develops and licenses the Blu-ray DRM system.

 

Curiously, Fengtao's announcement comes just a day after SlySoft—the company that makes the ripping tool AnyDVD—ceased operations and vanished from the Web. All that's left is a cryptic message on SlySoft's website: "Due to recent regulatory requirements we have had to cease all activities relating to SlySoft Inc."

 

As you may know, DVDs were protected using Content Scramble System (CSS), an encryption scheme that proved quite easy to break. Blu-ray discs (and HD DVDs) used Advanced Access Control System (AACS), which was based on a more complex cryptography scheme, but it was still fairly easy to break.

 

The new Ultra HD Blu-ray standard, however, takes it up a notch. AACS 2.0 has a "basic" version that sounds quite similar to existing AACS, but also an "enhanced" version of DRM that requires the playback device to download the decryption key from the Internet. There might still be a hole in the AACS 2.0 crypto scheme that allows for UHD discs to be ripped, but presumably it'll be a lot tougher than its predecessors.

 

In fact, the Fengtao statement even acknowledges that someone will "likely" crack AACS 2.0—it just won't be Fengtao that does it. Clearly, between the statement and SlySoft's closure, there are some litigious undertones here. Will another developer step into the ring and crack AACS 2.0, or will Ultra HD Blu-ray be unassailable?

 

The first UHD Blu-ray players trickled onto the market in January this year, along with a small number of Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. The players are expensive—about £400/$500—but the discs themselves are in-line with previous Blu-ray discs.

 

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[Holmes]

The title is going by the assumption that dvdfab and anydad are by themselves in the ripping and decryption department there are many methods and programs to rip and decrypt software.  One of them is dvdfortythree thats off the top of my head.  Ill think of additional ones and post them here.

[RumbleInTheD]

wow this was surprising... I guess my lifetime key wasn´t for life

[steven36]

20 hours ago, Holmes said:

The title is going by the assumption that dvdfab and anydad are by themselves in the ripping a decryption department

They only 4k protection that's been cracked for Ultra HD 4k is  them coping it off Netfilx . There's no blu-ray disk 4k out on the internet only web-dl  4k  . The thing is mostly all DVDFab  according to what i read at slysoft  they reversed AnyDVD to make there products . And Fengtao dont realty know how there really just reverse engineers and there waiting on someone else to crack it , is what i get out of it.  Even they have problems with many titles normal Blu-Ray .. The way 4k protection works you would have to download the decrypted keys over the internet when needed. Someone may crack it.  There's other decryption products out but most are not  as good as AnyDVD or even DVDFab is.  It would have be a new product  or someone improve there product a whole lot from what it is now.

 

The Title is not going by the fact AnyDVD or  DVDFab has not cracked it dont have there name in it . there going by  no one has cracked it and  AnyDVD has stopped and DVDfab said there not going to crack it . But in reality its more like they dont know how.  Ultra HD  Blu-Ray is out but no one has cracked it yet.

 

Its saying someone beside DVDFab  are going to be the ones to do it when it happens . If they were going by the assumption that DVDFab and AnyDVD were only ones who could crack i it would say it would never get cracked .  But It dont say that it says it will be awhile tell it does get cracked . Sometimes people crack stuff and it could be years tell it hits the market or it may never hit the market at all.  Because so much pressure from Hollywood they could keep it internal once it gets cracked.

 

Also Torrent Freak done a post on it too. DVDFab Says No Crack For Next-Gen Blu-ray Discs  Now they made it sound as no one else could do it

 

 

 

[Holmes]

You dont know that there is no crack for it yet it could be its just not in these forums nothing is impenetrable the protections are stronger its not impossible.  I know one or two programmers that could hack ultra fourk protections hell if I set my mind to it I maybe able to.  Like I said Ill do some digging and see what I can find out about fourk protection ripping and decryption methods.

[CODYQX4]

... and I remember AACS being untouchable.

 

Give it time, but someone will break it, or at least intercept the decrypted video on the fly.

[Holmes]

You have better coding ability then I do cody Im sure couldnt you break the protections?  I remember someone in the forums saying you were one of the coders of a windows loader that allows you to activate windows or am I misinformed.  I maybe able to do it all depends on if I can get all the real life problems Im experiencing solved (there is alot I cant guarantee anything).

[CODYQX4]

2 hours ago, Holmes said:

You have better coding ability then I do cody Im sure couldnt you break the protections?  I remember someone in the forums saying you were one of the coders of a windows loader that allows you to activate windows or am I misinformed.  I maybe able to do it all depends on if I can get all the real life problems Im experiencing solved (there is alot I cant guarantee anything).

I didn't make a loader but I made MTK. Others helped reverse the KMS protocol.

 

I don't think I could crack AACS. That's more of a reverse engineering/hacking thing then just coding, but I know that someone will do it. It's mostly lawsuits delaying people from even starting.

 

Someone will sell one of those new-fangled players with a broken/insecure implementation. They'll use that to better reverse engineer it, then find a way to break it. I thought some protocol got broken like that (HDCP?).

 

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/25/2586097/germans-crack-hdcp

 

It won't be me, but it will happen.

 

I don't even know if these DVD Ripper companies even crack it themselves. I'm pretty sure they wait for a hacker to break it, describe how, and then they code their implementation to do so.

 

Even if it were impossible to get the master key, someone could probably use certain players that they otherwise hacked to dump the data. The fact that you can rip it off Netflix is such an example.

[steven36]

16 hours ago, CODYQX4 said:

The fact that you can rip it off Netflix is such an example.

There's one p2p release group who release this 4k stuff TROLLHD  though and they never really told how they do it for Netfilx  .. No software vendors  has a fix for this in the public  It requires  it to be did trough a TV because you cant get 4k streams of Netfilx thorough you're web browser . This has been cracked a good while and still its not a public software or device to do it trough you're TV has been made  public.

 

DVDRanger had cracked Cinavia protection years before anyone else and they kept it internal for a long time once they released it others copied it.