steven36 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 A US think tank has accused Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking of ‘alarmism’ for raising concerns about artificial intelligence A US think tank has branded Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking “innovation killers” for their comments this year urging caution in the development of artificially intelligent machines. The Washington-based Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF) called the three “alarmist” for their comments on artificial intelligence, which it said threaten to dampen the spirit of technological innovation – something that in the ITIF’s view is “the wellspring of human progress”. ‘Doomsday scenarios’ The ITIF backs policies that create an environment favourable to the development of new technologies, notably opposing policies that place limits on companies’ activities. Gates is the co-founder of Microsoft, while Musk is chief executive of electric car maker Tesla and SpaceX, and Hawking is one of the world’s most prominent theoretical physicists. The recent films Ex Machina, Terminator: Genisys and Avengers: Age of Ultron are similarly guilty of endangering humanity’s vital spirit, the ITIF argued. “Raising such sci-fi doomsday scenarios just makes it harder for the public, policymakers, and scientists to support more funding for AI research,” ITIF stated, adding that “artificial intelligence and machine learning promise enormous benefits to society.” The think tank cited the use of artificial intelligence in formulating search-engine results and fine-tuning medical diagnoses. The ITIF also criticised those who seek to ban artificially intelligent autonomous weapons, the FCC’s approval of “net neutrality” measures – which the ITIF views as placing illigitimate limits upon broadband network operators – and those seeking to limit the spread of genetically modified foods. ‘Biggest existential threat’ “A growing array of interests now stand in stubborn opposition to innovation,” the ITIF said. Professor Hawking told the BBC in December 2014 that a thinking machine could “redesign itself at an ever-increasing rate” and “supersede” humans, while Musk, speaking during an interview at the AeroAstro Centennial Symposium at MIT this year, called AI “our biggest existential threat”. Gates, in an interview with the BBC, said he was “concerned” about AI and agreed with Musk’s view. The ITIF made the comments in nominations for its “Luddite of the Year” award, which is to be decided by an online vote. Luddites were weavers who in the early 19th century organised to destroy the stocking frames, spinning frames and power looms that threatened their livelihood. Weavers and other craftsmen were at that time largely independent, but foresaw that the machines then being introduced would to concentrate economic power in the hands of wealthy mill owners, reducing their own status to that of mere employees whose means of support would be controlled by their masters. The machine-breakers left messages attributing their acts of destruction to a Robin Hood-like symbolic figure they called “Ned Ludd”, “King Ludd” or “Captain Ludd”, using this pseudonym much in the same way that the hacker collective Anonymous and other activists currently use the Guy Fawkes mask. The Luddites sparked a region-wide movement in the North-West of England that was ultimately suppressed by military force. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted December 29, 2015 Administrator Share Posted December 29, 2015 While innovation should be supported and I'm fine with all these machines and robots and such, but I too echo their views about AI. I mean, these people are not some idiots, they are some of the biggest names in the modern day innovation and tech, so ignoring their views while suggesting they are against innovation is wrong I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humble3d Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I am rather convinced that Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking would not want to be blamed for anything untoward wrought by AI... However, AI development will continue into the future and beyond... Fight the Future ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 14 hours ago, DKT27 said: While innovation should be supported and I'm fine with all these machines and robots and such, but I too echo their views about AI. I mean, these people are not some idiots, they are some of the biggest names in the modern day innovation and tech, so ignoring their views while suggesting they are against innovation is wrong I think. 12 technologies that scared the world senseless Quote 1. Trains 2. Telephones 3. Television 4. CRT monitors 5. Wi-Fi 6. The Y2K bug 7. Robots 8. Cloning 9. Cassette recorders 10. VHS video recorders 11. TXT speak 12. Videogames Full article here http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/12-technologies-that-scared-the-world-senseless-1249053 If people didn't make things based on peoples likes or dislikes or fears basically we would still be living in the stone ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnsane Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I somehow agree with Gates, Musk and Hawking. Though AI development would definitely open some new and innovative opportunities, but think of what impact it could have. An algorithm, that can learn from it's mistakes and correct them, meaning an algorithm, that can perfect itself, learning from every mistake. Think of what could happen, we humans have evolved in millions of years to what we are today, machines don't take that much time, with today's computing power, and budget quantum computing forseeable in near future, these algorithm could just perfect themselves in matter of days, humans would be completely replaced by machines for most of the work, as the one capability which sets humans apart from machines is it's out of the box, innovative and crazy thinking capability, if machines can mimic that, that would completely replace us, and then, Terminator. I'd consider AI to be a double edged sword, either way, it'd hurt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash48 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Not to worry about machines replacing humans. We can always pull out the plug, or in the last resort create a world-wide EMP. This may put us back in the stone age, but at least we will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 2 minutes ago, flash48 said: Not to worry about machines replacing humans. We can always pull out the plug, or in the last resort create a world-wide EMP. This may put us back in the stone age, but at least we will survive. Sad thing is machines have been replacing humans for many years now . Even Bill Gates is partly responsible for this , so him bashing al hes just being a hypocrite and don't want nothing to replace the PC that lines his pocket full of gold. Quote Workers wanting secure employment in coming decades will need skills that complement software applications, rather than compete with them. Those who don't possess such skills face a nearly-50 percent chance of having their occupations replaced by automation, according to two University of Oxford professors who studied technology's impact on employment over the last 500 years. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/2014/03/21/software-tech-economy-work/6707457/ The computer illiterate face a 50% chance of losing there jobs today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I've always been pro-tech to the extreme, it's the use of the tech that should be accepted/denied not the invention of the device. That being said, we've yet to release minigun wielding robots with AI software to determine who lives and dies in the real world yet. I'm sure it won't take the robots long to determine the world will be more peaceful after purging the Earth of all human life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, CODYQX4 said: I've always been pro-tech to the extreme, it's the use of the tech that should be accepted/denied not the invention of the device. That being said, we've yet to release minigun wielding robots with AI software to determine who lives and dies in the real world yet. I'm sure it won't take the robots long to determine the world will be more peaceful after purging the Earth of all human life. This probably because all you're life you been around the internet for the like the 1st 20 some years of my life I got along just fine without it . Not a day goes by you don't read about info or money getting stolen trough the internet . One day when you start losing power and water things that existed way before it and the world becomes like that revolution TV show you will understand this age of the internet is not what its cracked up to be . And how sad people have become setting behind machines and there ears attached to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 1 hour ago, steven36 said: This probably because all you're life you been around the internet for the like the 1st 20 some years of my life I got along just fine without it . Not a day goes by you don't read about info or money getting stolen trough the internet . One day when you start losing power and water things that existed way before it and the world becomes like that revolution TV show you will understand this age of the internet is not what its cracked up to be . And how sad people have become setting behind machines and there ears attached to them. Probably, and the more people glued to a screen, means the less people I have to see IRL, and that's a win for me. Our infrastructure is far too vulnerable compared to our dependence though. Carrington event today = global collapse within hours = eventual extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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